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6/11/13 1:52 P

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Thanks for the info!

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Great resource! The League does great work!

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Re: testing for safe cycling. The League of American Cyclists had an extensive training program for cyclists. I've taken their traffic skills 101 which was an informative class. I am also a league certified instructor (LCI) so now I can teach classes.
www.bikeleague.org/

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Good thought & project, sorry I can't help at this time and don't have any readily available resources. Will try to "noodle" around at a later point and see what can be turned up. Perhaps TED might have something?

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5/30/13 3:52 P

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I'm searching for info regarding a testing for safe cycling. Anyone have any resources like youTube or other links?

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5/30/13 12:06 P

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KJEANNE, you are so correct.

Your comments are right on the money. We can't be respected if we don't follow the law.

Bike handling! This is a major issue and like taking a drivers test these basic skills should be able to be performed. Last year a Trek Staff person came to teach cycling safety and bike handling to a group. 1st was avoiding a car door and quick stop. The first few missed the mark and the 3 did a face plant (really bad one). I couldn't watch. How can you be safe when you can't stop?

Another issue, the large group cyclists give us a bad name. They block traffic, ride 4 or more abreast, impede traffic, run every stop sign, and create motorist road rage.

Thanks!

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5/30/13 10:53 A

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It would be great to see cyclists riding in a consistent safe manner. We have to take a test to drive a car on the street, how about a test before we can ride on the streets? I see so many cyclists riding incorrectly:
riding against traffic
riding on the sidewalk
hugging the curb
ignoring traffic signals
etc.

All very dangerous behavior.
Then cyclists talk about non-cyclists not respecting our rights. Time for cyclists to get their act together.
There would be less need for talk if cyclists followed the rules of the road:
Follow the law
Be predictable
Be Conspicuous
Thank Ahead
Ride Ready
Keep Your Cool



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5/23/13 2:28 P

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There is definitely room for improvement in The Netherlands, Of course all the issues that are addressed towards non-cyclists in that article apply to The Netherlands as well,
but with the huge amount of cyclists in this country, it really goes both ways.

A car driver is supposed to judge the speed of a cyclist, but the same goes for that cyclist;
Because of the high amount of cyclists in my country, there's also a large amount of careless riders who will take a left turn without even looking, thinking cars will slow down regardless of whether they have right of way or not.

I've spent my lifetime riding my bike (the last 20 years) and only a few years (about 3) driving my car, but so far I can already say that I've had most near-accidents with my car because some cyclists will carelessly cut me off while I'm right behind them.

This issue usually occurs with the people who ride their bikes to go to school, work, or wherever they need to be.
The people who ride for sports/health reasons tend to look where they are going a whole lot better, which is probably because of their own increased speed, making it that much more important to ride safely while sharing the road with others.

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5/21/13 4:57 P

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A critical mass of camera-wielding cyclists would certainly change things. I'd probably take mine to Animal Control. There are legions of chihuahuas where I live. One of them seems to have figured out vectors, and has begun aiming for my front wheel.

I shudder, thinking of road rash punctured by tiny little teeth marks.

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If you can, make eye contact. It's not about being polite or not, it's about an unexplained acceleration of taking away the right of others.

I'm thinking about that helmet cam and spending time with the local Sheriff. Just think if we all used a helmet cam and sent in clips of being abused in traffic? That might help.

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I'm frequently surprised by how badly drivers misjudge my speed. Or they just refuse to believe I'm going as fast as their brains tell them I'm going.

Once, on a short desent, I was traveling at 37 mph in a 25 mph zone. I took the entire lane because I was more than matching the legal speed. A driver pulled into the oncoming lane, passed me, and then made a right turn from the oncoming lane, right in front of me. Would he have done that to a motorcycle? Probably not.

I believe the more we're on the road, the more drivers will see us. Especially if we're polite. But even I admit that there are times I do not see a cyclists or a motorcyclist. So, as we all know, we have to assume every driver does not see us.

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Hmm...interesting to hear...! Although things appear to this outsider to be fairly cyclo-centric in the Netherlands, I guess there is room for improvement! :-)

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There's so many bike owners in The Netherlands, that it's actually more important to teach the bike owners about bike safety rather than non-cyclists.

All the car owners will have learned about how to deal with cyclists and what to look for when encountering bikes in traffic (which is like, constantly) when they get their driving lessons.

But anyone can get on a bike without any type of class or lessons, this actually makes the average cyclist a big danger to themselves as the majority of them simply don't know or care about how to deal with other traffic.

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Free beer and they usually will listen for a few minutes.

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How To Talk to Non-Cyclists About Road Cycling Safety

I thought this article brought up some good points we can make when we talk with friends and family about cycling safely on our roads even if Uncle Leo "writes me off as one of those weirdos in spandex." :-)

bicycling.com/blogs/roadrights/2013/
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