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5/10/07 12:16 P

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That's a great idea! I love it...

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5/5/07 8:08 P

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My husband I go on our “forbidden rides” a few times a year. They are rides on holidays when there is no traffic out – Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years days. And we ride on the streets that we NEVER ride on (but want to ride on) because of no shoulder, too fast traffic, crazy drivers, etc. We ride down the middle of the right lane and even run a few red lights! We feel like real rebel bikers!!

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5/4/07 10:43 A

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I understand what you mean--there are many places that I theoretically would like to ride to that I won't because of the roads. Luckily I live in an area that has a lot of cyclists, so the drivers have started to get used to us. It doesn't mean I am any less careful, or any less scared at times!

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5/3/07 10:59 P

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the three foot law sounds nice... but i think we could use some bike lanes too! where I live in Pennsylvania we have no biking lanes on most roads, not even a shoulder on the road. I think that the road crews that are fiddling around making more bumps and dents in the road should be put to work making some biking/walking lanes around here. I would love to bike over to the store or something but its a main road, without even a shoulder, and crazy-insane drivers...
I dont know if its different where you guys are, but its a major problem here.

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4/26/07 1:22 P

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Amen to that Kevin! The young can be dumb sometimes. I know, I was one of them a few decades ago.

We, as cyclists, must also take some responsibility for how we ride. It bugs me when I see riders riding 2 or 3 abreast in a bike lane when they should be single file! They often seem oblivious to the cars and activities around them. I’m sure it bugs drivers too.

Or the cyclists that ride too far left in traffic therefore not leaving room for a car to get past them. I know that an opening door from a parked car can be a hazard but I’m riding close (@ 3 feet away) to those parked cars (vs. riding in the lane of traffic), staying alert and looking ahead for movement in the parked cars. There is better chance of being hit by a passing car than a car door that is opening.

Okay. I’m off my soapbox for now.


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4/26/07 10:21 A

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Utah has the 3 foot law as well. However it does not seem like most people even care. I don't know how to enforce it. I just ride like every one is a potential candidate to hit me. If I do that I stay pretty safe. I have not had many close calls. Although I have a son that rides like he owns the road and has been hit twice. The foolishness of the young.

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So far (in my 3 day of riding) I find the traffic had been very good and I have not been frightened by a close call.

I find when I am driving a car I always give a rider lots of room. I find it hard that all drivers wouldn't do something like that. I can imagine hitting a cyclist will be life changing for both parties involved no matter who is at fault.

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4/25/07 7:36 P

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I've heard about the "3 feet" law. You are right about it probably not being an enforcible law. However, it does show that the government is thinking about the safety of cyclists instead of the convenience of drivers. Another plus would be that if someone is hit on the road and caught there is a law on the books showing the driver is clearly in the wrong.



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4/25/07 12:25 P

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That's a great law. I hope it works--and that other states think it is a good law too!

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4/24/07 10:41 P

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Tennessee recently passed a law requiring traffic that is passing a bicycle to stay at least 3 feet away from the cyclist while passing. I don't know if the law is enforceable without cyclists prosecuting offenders, but it is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, a cyclist had to die for the law to be born.

 
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4/24/07 10:54 A

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Never can trust those idiots in cars...lol! YOu are right, though. It probably happended in bad weather conditions, so you wouldn't have been out then anyway.

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4/23/07 8:38 P

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You guys are brave! I have never ridden on a highway. Tulsa has a long bike path that parallels the highway system in town. I was telling my husband how safe I felt on it and then we passed a place where car tracks (muddy ruts) came down the embankment, went through the fence and plunged into the bike path. It probably happened at night in the rain with no bikers on the trail, but it gave me a creepy feeling!

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3/22/07 3:55 P

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Michelle:
How are you doing? Please give use an update!

My husband and I usually ride together, which I like better than riding alone. We do plan our routes with a goal of riding as many bike paths and bike lanes as possible. I always bring my Los Angeles bike path map with me so we can make changes to the route on the fly.

The most dangerous part of our ride is the 1-mile radius around our home. We live near an industrial area so there are lots of trucks rolling thorough especially during the weekdays. Riding with the trucks is one problem but the condition of the streets is an even bigger problem. Those truck chew up the streets and throw debris into the shoulder and bike paths. Most of the truck drivers have been accommodating to me, but then it might because of the recumbent I ride.


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3/22/07 12:09 P

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Too bad we can't all ride with someting I saw in Texas....must have been a vehilce either going to or coming from a group ride, as I didn't see the bikers, but on the back of the vehilce was a sign that said "caution-bikes ahead". Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all have that kind of protection when we are out on the road??

I also ride on country roads, some of which have logging trucks, dump trucks, and RV's, with NO paved shoulder for bikes. Scary sometimes. My hubby and I ride together and we try to do any rides that involve the worst road very early in the morning when traffic is at a minimum. If we can't ride that road early, we take a diffferent route (thankfully we have options).

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Mom..I bet there is some truth to that..A group of cyclists tend to stick out more to an unattentive driver.

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3/21/07 2:14 P

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Firemen, another thought came to mind which ABIKER's post got me to thinking about....do you ride w/a club or partner?

I have heard of a couple bike accidents involving cars from my local club and both had a common thread, a cyclist riding alone.

Not that there's any empirical evidence to suggest riding alone is any safer, or more dangerous, it's just what I've observed. But it seems to me to be safer in numbers, we're more visible and less easy to ignore when there's a pair, or more, tooling along the rode.

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I have run ins with large trucks, log trucks and trailers all to frequently. I've had them literally brush my arm or leg as they pass me on the road. It makes me so angry to think that their precious 10 seconds it would take to slow down and show some caution is worth more than my life. If they would give it a moment's thought they would realize that if they did kill me on the road it wouldn't be so good for them either.

I heard somewhere that most drivers will only be cautious of cyclists on the road as long as it doesn't inconvenience them. From my experience I tend to believe it.

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"Message Posted by: FIREMN317 - 3/12/2007 challange is giant RV's. They are worst than the trucks and since i ony have a few inches that are mine there's not much room to manuver or screw up. "

Fireman......do the roads you ride have a berm? I know RV's are scary for a lot of reasons, one being that sometimes the drivers are not as experienced as truck drivers.

I ride w/a guy who did a solo tour from Ohio to Fla, and he recommends staying about 6 inches left of the white line if there is no berm. Drivers can still maneuver around you, but you still have a little space to call your own if you need to claim it.

Please let us know how things go for you out on the road.

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My first bike coach taught me an important lesson--take care of everything for yourself first, from start to finish. She meant when you get out of the car, before you even touch your bike, put your helmet on. Then do a safety check before getting on the bike. At the end of a ride, before you load up your bike or put away your gear or anything, check your body, drink water, wipe down, etc. The one exception is that the last thing you should put away/take off/deal with is your helmet. She told us that one day when a team member had taken off her helmet and opened her brake but jumped back on the bike to pump half a block in the middle of the road, back to her car.

I think that policy can be extended to your situation--paying attention until you are off your bike. It's so easy to forget when it's just that one last jaunt to your car. I have also seen people make ridiculous mistakes (like running into the back of a car) at the tail end of a ride because they were messing around with their computers.
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Thanks for the reminder. We have to have our head with us and be aware at all times. Great lesson.

I am sorry you had to suffer to bring it home to us all though.

I wish you a speedy recovery!



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3/12/07 7:56 P

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Thanks Michelle for the warning and am glad you're ok. I'm getting ready to start on the highway again as the weather gets agreeable but my biggest challange is giant RV's. They are worst than the trucks and since i ony have a few inches that are mine there's not much room to manuver or screw up. does anyone else have any experiences with RVs and log trucks. Where i live there virtually no roads without traffic so if i want to road ride then i have to put up with it and take my chances but sure would like to hear from other's as to what they do to deal with this.

 
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3/12/07 10:44 A

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Michelle--thanks for the reminder that no matter how often we ride, we still can't control the envirnment. I am glad you got right back up and out for another ride. And I can see how the nutrition part is going to be a challenge! A friend of mine swears by the Ensure drinks (her jaw was wired shut for 6 months). Keep us updated on your progess, and glad that you woke up feeling not awful yesterday!

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Kjeanne- thanks for your sympathy. I woke up feeling a lot better than I though I would. So I went on the 36 mile club ride. Wanted to get back on the bike before I got scared. Had a great ride except for that soft food thing. Implant will take 3-6 months to get depends on how the bones heal.

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Michelle;
Thanks for sharing with us. It’s a good lesson for all of us. My heart goes out to you! Please let use know how you’re doing as you go through your body repairs!


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That is terrible. Unfortuneately one of the hazards of riding. You have to be defensive all the time. Safety is tough, sometimes you just have something happen so fast that you can't control. The great thing is that you were not hurt worse. Count yourself lucky that something more didn't happen. Glad that you came through it without serious injury.

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Went on a club ride today and had a great time. After the ride we all split up and went our seperate ways me back to my car which I had left near the end of the ride. Maybe five blocks away.

Well I went to turn into the parking lot and hit a slippery wet metal piece in the road. Went over the handlebars and landed on my face. I was able to get into the car and drive (after making sure the bike was okay and no broken bones) but on the way home I felt a sharp pain in my front tooth everytime I hit a bump or touched it with my tongue. Well I ended up in the dental office having to have it pulled out and prepped for an implant. Well being without a front tooth for now is pretty bad but it could have been worse.

The point is, after we had all seperated, I guess I felt that the ride was over. I was not PAYING ATTENTION like I should've been. Please everyone remember the ride is not over until you are safe and sound and off your bike. Don't be as dumb as I was and ride safe.

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