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1/31/13 7:49 P

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I'm sure gluten is the main cause of osteoporosis and the flouride in water leeches calcium from the bones. Looking like I'll have to become a Breatharian....

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1/31/13 7:47 P

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The only supplements I do are calcium with vitamin D (counter acts the adverse effect my antiseizure meds have on bone density according to my neurologist) and a multivitamin. My orthopedic doc told about the NSAIDS and said take tylenol. That has worked well. Thanks for the information. Mark

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1/31/13 3:41 P

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If L-Tryptophan is a no-no, then you should also avoid turkey as it's laden with the stuff. That's one of the reasons you feel so sleepy, or sleepiER, after eating it.

Jeez, Mark. I'm thinking all you're gonna be able to ingest is just bread and water! :-)

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1/31/13 1:26 P

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I had anterior cervical discectomy and fusion surgery last year and my surgeon told me things I never knew about growing bone.
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications slow bone growth. This includes over the counter meds like aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen and prescription meds like Mobic/Meloxicam, Celebrex, etc. You can take Tylenol for pain but if you need something stronger than that your doctor should write you a Rx for Vicodin. If you need to bring down inflamation you can take steroids like Medol/methylprednisolone since these stop inflamation without slowing bone growth.
Antidepressants that increase serotonin levels (e.g Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft) also slow bone growth. Note that Welbutrin/Bupropion should be OK since it increases dopamine and norepinepherine levels and has little effect on serotonin.
While healing bone you should avoid most supplements. Many supplements have anti-inflammatory properties that are usually beneficial but not when your body needs prostoglandins to grow bone. L-Tryptophan, 5-HTP, St. John's Wart, and SAMe increase serotonin levels so these shouldn't be taken either. My surgeon ok'ed the Niacin I take for triglycerides but told me not to take any other suppliments until my bones were fully fused just to be safe. I also had to quit taking Mobic that I was previously taking for a torn rotator cuff in my shoulder.

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1/30/13 11:23 A

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Don't worry about bursting my bubble. Information is always good.

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1/30/13 6:39 A

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Hey, Mark. I really do hate to sound like one of "those people," but I don't do any of it. No coffee or tea (even decaf), sodas or alcohol - and each for various reasons. I rarely eat red meats, choosing chicken, turkey and seafood, and I always try to moderate any sugars to small amounts. For example, I had two Hershey's Kisses after lunch, yesterday, for dessert - nothing more for any other meal of the day.

As for my reasons for foregoing the aforementioned pleasantries of the palate:
Coffee - Obviously the caffeine. There was a recent television segment on coffee, where a woman drank four normal (not super-duper, in-your-face, screaming-Mimi coffees), one after the other and not in a hurried fashion. The result? Per a CAT scan, blood flow to her brain was decreased by about 40%. Other than the obvious problems there, the brain sort of freaks out and causes a rise in blood pressure, trying to get more of the oxygen-rich blood its been deprived, so that's not good, either. And even decaf has small amounts of caffeine, so I don't do it...although I love the smell of coffee!

Tea - Caffeine and nicotine. Yes, some teas are caffeine free, but a couple of studies have also shown that tea contains nicotine coffeetea.about.com/od/Coffee-Tea-He
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th/f/Is-There-Nicotine-In-Tea.htm
, and I want to avoid even the remotest possibility of putting any more nicotine in my system than I'm sure I get in a day of being around (office) people who reek of cigarette smoke. And even though green teas are supposed to have exceptional antioxidant properties, they aren't free and clear of suspicion as a bad guy, lurking in the shadows thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite
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Sodas - We've already discussed the negatives of these guys.

Alcohol - The reason we get drunk is that the liver simply can't process the influx of this toxin into our bodies. The result is it begins to backup in the bloodstream and starts to wreck havoc on the nervous system www.royalgazette.com/article/2012042
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ISLAND05/704249960
. Yes, many studies say that drinking a glass of red wine is actually good for you - although no one is absolutely certain what it is in the wine that is good (many believe it to be the tannins, but no one is 100% certain). Regardless of the purported health benefits, it's not a valid reason, at least for me, to consider drinking alcohol. The same can be said for coffee. In fact, I read one study that touted all the great things coffee will do for you. But their closing line said it all, (to paraphrase), "While the consumption of coffee can actually offer many health benefits, if you aren't already drinking coffee, don't start." To me, it sounded like an addict trying to justify his\her habit.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Mark. Looks like water is the only safe bet, here. And, even then, I have a double-filtered system I use for mine. I rarely, if ever drink tap (which is only generally at a restaurant). And if that tap tastes too much like 'tap,' I will waive my Soda Edict and drink a glass of seltzer water with some lime (and I choose restaurant lime over restaurant lemon for other health reasons).

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1/29/13 2:45 P

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Good drugs were offered, but turned down. The Dr. Peppers are now a thing of the past. Given the relationships between soda consumption and calcium loss and between bike crashes and broken bones, I have given them up. Now, what about coffee?

Edited by: KAYZAKCX at: 1/29/2013 (14:46)
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1/29/13 12:55 P

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You could have gone all day without telling him to give up his beloved soda (I think it is Dr. Pepper).

Man, sorry to hear about the collarbone. Hopefully they at least gave you some awesome drugs.

Kelly

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Sorry to hear about your malady, Mark. I hope all goes well with a speedy recovery.

On that note, I can tell you to definitely avoid any phosphoric acid and phosphorus in the form of sodas and carbonated\sugary beverages. Phosphorus is found in many everyday foods - dairy, (preferably whole) grains, and meats - and are on the nutritious side of the coin. On the not-so-good side of the coin, phosphorus is also found in GREAT abundance in carbonated beverages - colas, "sparkling water," etc.

Phosphorus and calcium are in your bones in a 1:1 ratio. But if you get too much, the phosphorus will actually begin flushing calcium from your bones and cause them to become more brittle and or heal less quickly after an accident. Check out this little link I found: abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=n
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At least it was a collar bone and not a leg or arm - although, from what I hear, a fractured\broken clavicle is one of the most painful breaks.

Take care and ride safe...r? :-)

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1/28/13 8:33 P

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I broke my collar bone in a cx race last Saturday. Anybody have any nutritional advice to help speed the healing? Appreciate any and all answers. Thanks. Mark

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