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8/23/12 8:58 A

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My vote is for the Conti 4000. I've tried many and the Contis are by far my favorite. Some may say that their current tires allow them to ride 4000+ miles before replacing, but I say that's largely due to the surface they ride in. I ride in rough country roads and thus can never predict how far a set of tires will take me.

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8/21/12 4:24 P

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There is no free lunch. Rolling resistance is largely a product of hysteresis losses in tires. The fastest rolling and best handling tires have very thin supple casings and little tread. Naturally the flimsier the tires the more vulnerable they are to punctures. The various belts add puncture resistance but nothing is a panacea. Kevlar cloth is popular but not particularly effective. Yes, bullet proof vests are made with Kevlar but punctures are not caused by bullets but by small sharp objects that can penetrate cloth and move the strong fibers rather than break them.
Finding a good tire with a reasonable balance between speed, handling, durability, and puncture resistance is the key. Competitors will look for every advantage they can find but most cyclists are well served by a middle of the road tire. I find Continental tires to be somewhat overrated but their Ultra Sport is inexpensive, flat resistant, more durable than most, and rides well. I'm not convinced that Gatorskins are that much more flat resistant than Ultra Sports but Gatorskins ride a lot worse. Also, most cyclists are better served by wider tires. Wider tires are a tad heavier and might have more aero drag (not always, many rims are more aerodynamic with 23-25mm tires than 18-20mm) but have lower rolling resistance (the wider tire deforms less to make the contact patch), more durability, and a more comfortable ride (esp. if you ride slightly lower pressure). If 28mm tires fit your road bike they should be the first choice for most non-competitive cyclists. Many road frames do not have the clearance for 28mm tires; On my race bike I have to deflate 28mm tires on the rear to get them on or off so I usually ride 25mm. If you have a road bike with the clearance you might try 32mm tires. Yes, these look funny to cyclists used to skinny tires but they can ride great. Avocet Duro Plus in 32mm are a fast tire that does everything well. These fit my beater bike but are way to big for my racing bike.
I've never been a fan of slime. Slime does stop or slow many punctures but it has another unfortunate effect. When you ride on a flat such as after a rapid deflation at speed or if you decide to ride home on a flat slime acts as a lubricant in the tire making it unstable and difficult to ride.
When flats would be inconvenient and puncture resistance more important than speed (e.g. winter training or commuting to work) I use Mr. Tuffy's. These belts increase puncture resistance a great deal. On my beater bike I've literally gone years between flats using durable tires and Mr. Tuffy's. I wouldn't put them on my race bike but for utilitarian use they are great.

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8/21/12 4:17 P

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Specialized Armadillo... Thousands of miles and no flats!

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8/20/12 11:37 P

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I still love my Schalbe Marathon touring tires. Over 4100 miles so far this year and no flats.

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8/19/12 9:14 P

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Earlier this summer after a few flats and one that happened outside Geneva, NY the bike shop there recommended Bontrager Hard Case, I think it was around $45 for the one tire...rear of course. So far I've been pleased.

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8/19/12 5:16 P

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My husband swears by Gatorskins. All I can say is that I have over 3700 miles this year and have only had maybe 5 flats. We have lots of glass and goatheads on the road here in Reno and I still don't change my own tires. Luckily I have an awesome husband.

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8/18/12 6:10 P

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One of the little things about my Conti 4000S's I really like is there are two little dimples, both offset from the center line on the tire. When the dimples wear down to nothingness, you know it's time to replace the tires. It's a great little idea that makes a big difference.

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8/18/12 5:11 P

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8/18/12 2:15 P

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i will certainly check them out when it comes time to prep for the 70.3.. Expensive but worth it. i have a friend who DNF'd his 70.3 BECAUSE of flats. After all the hundreds of hours training, equipment, travel, lodging etc... Whats the cost of quality tires??? I would say rubber makes the ride.

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i will certainly check them out when it comes time to prep for the 70.3.. Expensive but worth it. i have a friend who DNF'd his 70.3 BECAUSE of flats. After all the hundreds of hours training, equipment, travel, lodging etc... Whats the cost of quality tires??? I would say rubber makes the ride.

Thanks Scruffy, ill book mark that...

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8/18/12 1:41 P

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ON2, I wish we'd have spoken before you invested. While the GatorSkins are indeed good tires, for my money, nothing beats the Continental 4000S. These things are absolutely phenomenal!

I'm 6' 5" and now a mere 210-212 lbs. When I started riding, I was 240 lbs and was riding Michelins. They were okay but I wanted something different so I got the Vredestiens. They were better but I picked up a piece of glass just 1 mile into my first ride with them and, one replaced tube later, they did fine for several miles to come. I later switched up to the Conti 4000S and the difference has been very noticeable, especially in the handling and cornering. Checkout this link: www.conti-online.com/generator/www/d
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They're a tad pricey, weighing in at about $120-$130 a set but, if you check online for deals, you can usually get them for about $90 a set...give or take.

As I say, the GatorSkins are great tires. This is just my two cents to go with your two cents.

Ride safe!

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Just a quick note. I changed up my tires that came with my time trial bike (70 x23) to Gatorskin tires and slightly larger 70x25 and it made a huge difference.our roads up here are not the greatest and I'm a larger dude anyway so it made for a bad combination. First ride, tire blew after 15 miles. Yesterday after changing up to the Gatorskins, 53 miles of reliable, comfortable riding.

I'm sold. They are worth the money.

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