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7/30/12 4:44 P

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You can also bring your bike and they will set you up on a trainer. It will give you a good idea of how that saddle will feel. Also different saddles will cause your position to be adjusted.

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7/30/12 2:33 P

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Athena:
My suggestion, when shopping for a saddle, is to go to a bike shop where they will let you trade in a saddle if it doesn't work for you. You will probably pay list price for the saddle but if you can trade it in for another one, it's worth the cost.

If you can't afford a bike fit, why not get a friend to help you? There are lots of websites that talk about how to fit a bike. Takes some tips from those sites and give it a try. Make sure to mark your current settings before you make any changes and make only one change at a time.

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7/30/12 1:16 P

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Thank you for this post, I have some things to check out and hopefully be able to get back in the saddle.

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7/29/12 12:34 P

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Yeah, I've had issues too (but not to the point of bleeding - ouch!). I've been building up my rides and am now at the 2.5 hour mark (trying to work up to 50+) but am still pretty uncomfortable. I can't afford a fit at the moment but I'm thinking of upgrading to a female specific saddle. Any recommendations? I've got great shorts, lube, etc so it's a question of fit and my saddle. You guys seem to know what you're talking about!


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7/28/12 11:44 P

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When I was starting out I hurt myself to the point of bleeding too. Ouch! Padded shorts and chafing cream solved my problem along with no underwear. Around the 2 hour mark I get uncomfortable so I know I eventually need a different saddle too. I'm waiting until I can swing a fitting to get a different one though.

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7/27/12 10:43 P

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Lots of great advice. I want to add one more reason to get a bike fitting - your wife might be arching her back which means she would be sitting on her private parts instead of her sit bones.

When I rode a road bike - I now ride a recumbent - i tried several saddles. The one I found that worked best was a Specialized Riva. My sit bones were measured at a bike shop - they had a gel thing-ma-gig I sat on then the sales person measured the width of the impression. I picked a sized based on that measurement. That was a wonderful saddle.

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7/23/12 11:05 A

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I have a lakes Selle Italia Genuine Gel alike new you can have. I will send it to you. What size seat post do you need? I have a 27.4 sitting around and maybe more. That way you can just change the seat post and mark it. If she likes it, then you can get a bike for her.

Send me an inbox and I'll ship it to you.

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Crossing fingers that we'll have a new convert on our hands shortly! :-)

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7/23/12 9:31 A

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Thanks to everyone again for the advice. On my group ride Saturday I spoke to a female friend about this, and she offered to let my wife borrow a women's saddle. I may try that. If that makes the bike ride more pleasant and she gets hooked, I'm sure she'll eventually end up with her own bike that's fitted for her.

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7/20/12 5:21 P

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I don't have much to offer--there's lots of great advice. A good fit--saddle, bike & shorts--is so important. There is also chamois balm/butt butter that works well to relieve chafing.

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7/20/12 3:56 P

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In my experience women almost always have more trouble getting comfortable on the bike.
Like BARRONVC said, the saddle is probably the biggest problem. If your saddle is too narrow your wife is supporting her weight on soft tissue rather than her "sit bones." About 10% of my female customers had fairly narrow pelvises and were more comfortable on men's saddles but 90% went with women's models. There are several brands of saddles and trial and error is the way to find the most comfortable. Some bike shops have some used saddles you can try before buying.
There are many more variables for fit. You wife will need her own bike because her ideal position on the bike is probably much different than yours. I can understand your reservations buying a bike for your wife when you don't know if she will enjoy cycling but having her ride an ill fitting bike all but guarantees she will hate cycling.

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7/19/12 1:20 P

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Man saddle is too narrow and will not provide point contact for the women's sits bones. Therefore it would be painful.

A man would be in a world of hurt with a wider saddle and narrow nose.

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7/19/12 1:15 P

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It's the saddle. I have the same problem if I ride my husband's bike. I have a WSD Trek with a nice to "girl parts" saddle. It is hard as a rock, but just make for my bone structure down there. I can ride all day without a hitch but, a man's saddle kills my ride in 20 minutes.

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7/19/12 1:02 P

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To clarify, I have offered my Trek hybrid and she's used it a few times with no such troubles. The saddle is more comfort-oriented.

With a small child, it's hard to make time for rides even individually, much less both of us getting out on the road at once. She only showed much interest in using my bike once I got it set up inside on the trainer. She can use it while still inside with our son.

Anyway, we'll get to the er, bottom, of it somehow. As I said earlier, I just never thought that a couple of 15-20 minute sessions on an ill fitting bike could be so painful, but it seems I may have been wrong. We'll try some of the recommended fixes and see what happens.

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7/19/12 11:48 A

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WOW! I've never heard of actual bleeding after a ride. When I first started riding I was sore every time I went out. I went to the LBS and they helped me adjust my seat so now I'm only sore if I'm on the bike longer than 3 hours.

All of the articles Don posted are great! Thanks for the information.

My husband expressed an interest in riding but I knew he really wasn't into it. We went to Walmart and bought him a bike there. It's not a cheapo but a lower end Schwinn. I figure when he actually rides it we can get him a newer one. I say this because even though you want to gauge her interest you could still get something that is more fitted for her just not as expensive as a road bike. Just a thought.



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7/19/12 11:45 A

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There is a lot of discussion on this in the past. The naughty bits must have clearance and the sits bones must support. Women are usually wider than men. Men 110 to 135, Women 125-175.

There are gauges in the bike shops to sit one and see the spacing of the sits bones/ It's a personal fit and no one can say this is the one. God gave us different equipment, new technology in cycling provides options to fit us.

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Thanks all. Don, as usual, tons of great info. I know the setup will be an issue in the long run, but I was trying to get away from altering the fit of the bike, since she is (at this point) an infrequent and casual user.

I wasn't sure the setup was the culprit at this point, because she has no soreness in the neck, back, or other areas typical of a poor bike fit.

If she decides to pursue biking, we'll get her a bike and a proper fitting. I thought she could ride mine a few times to see if she liked cycling, but I had no idea she'd have such discomfort. Literally, she had bleeding after the rides.

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7/19/12 11:15 A

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I ride a recumbent tricycle so I don;t have to deal with a saddle.

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I had to switch to a "gel" seat that is designed a little differently. I think it's called an Ahhh...seat. Never had a problem since. I ride a mountain bike which came with a very narrow, hard seat. Replaced that thing after the first ride!
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7/19/12 10:08 A

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Lots of good information in post before this. She should get fitted on her own bike; talk with women riders to find out best bike shorts like Descante, Pearl Izuma or Sugiou to name a few (no underwear, as it binds causing much discomfort). Chamois cream...and a good women's fit saddle. Women riders at your Local Bike shop/ club will offer invaluable information. I went from an inexpensive hybrid (fitted at LBS); to more $$ road bike (fitted and adjusted at LBS) in about 9 months, to a mountain bike (given) but continually upgrading. It doesn't fit as well, but I love the frame, and willing to work with it and bike shop owner helps with upgrades! This is to encourage..so she will get out and ride. There is nothing like it, on the pavement or off-road. Go to the Terry bike site, Performance, Nashbar, etc.

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Here's a few links which might help:

www.bicyclinglife.com/PracticalCycli
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www.roadbikerider.com/injuries/how-s
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www.livestrong.com/article/5494-need
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voiding-bike-saddle-soreness/


sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html

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My wife has recently used my road bike in the trainer a few times, only for a short duration. The trouble is, each time she has had terrible pain and soreness afterward in her, uh, "girl parts" for lack of a better term. She has tried my bike shorts, then borrowed a female friends made-for-women shorts. Nothing has helped thus far.

My question is, have any of you had this issue? I'm wondering if it's just something that she'll have to deal with until she gets used to it. I'm sure some discomfort at first is normal, but this is a bit much. Thanks for any advice I can pass on to her.

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