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1/18/12 11:16 A

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GL with your efforts Mark...let us know how it works out?

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1/18/12 11:02 A

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DDOORN, generally a pretty great idea, but since the Spring time normally carries iwth it an increase in my tenins load up to 3-4 days per week, I doubt I'd have the spare time to really think about a club or anything like that. all I'd essentially be looking to do at that point is tag on to a single ride or two. As with any startup, the leader would have to be pretty involved in the early stages.

I may, however, simply ask the local LBS if i can toss up a flyer for any folks looking to ride together to drop me an email. That may be a simpler solution!

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1/18/12 10:36 A

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You might want to start putting feelers out there and see if you can start up a club of your own!

Talk to LBS, put together a flyer, post on Craig's list, get the word out! You may be pleasantly surprised to find others who are right in sync with what you are looking for.

It can't hurt, plus if you find only one or two others, start getting out there on rides, swing by LBS to let them know that you are getting together and are out on the road turning those wheels! That way they'll know to point new folks your way.

If you get out you may want to settle on a certain spot for coffee / snack / etc. afterward and leave your flyer / card at the establishment as a way of promoting your club.

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1/18/12 9:58 A

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Great advice all. I took a dig through Craigslist and found nobody looking for ride partners. I suppose i'll have to make a post myself if I want to find somebody there.

In relation to the club, it's a bummer that they only seem to cater to the competition riders. Come spring time, I'll consider emailing them and seeking out more info. But TBH, i'm not going to pay membership dues to join a club that rides 60 miles at 25+ mph when i'm only capable of 30 miles at 14mph haha.

A ride buddy or three is definitely what i'm after, and thats why I figured a club would be the best option.

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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
1/18/12 8:52 A

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You have nothing to lose to see what the group is about. There are several cycling groups that have emphasis as to what the club wants to accomplish. The one you mention sounds as though the members are there to learn and train for racing strategies. Although you may not have an inkling of racing but once you do one the bug will bite. I wish the club I am affiliated with would share the knowledge a little freer.

Our club is concentrated on exposing as many people as possible to the world of cycling and keep them cycling. Although we do have Cat 1,2, & 3 racers, we still have have about 3 separate speeds of riding. Also, there is a different night for training rides which is used to help you learn pace lining, where to place yourself in the pace line, how to attack hills, and when to sprint and not sprint. The LBS Wed night ride is what I use as my intense ride. We start out casually (under 18 mph usaully around 16 mph) till we hit the point where the hammer can be dropped. During the pre Hammer drop portion is when the social aspect of the ride occurs. This is to see if we are going to BWW, latest gear, what races are going to be entered into, training analysis, nutritional guideline sharing etc.

When the hammer drops it is all business. It is an all out sprint to drop the weak. A re-group occurs to see who survived and then it is pace line riding. Depending on the wind will determine the pace line style used. People will still be dropped either because their stamina is not there, they have not ridden that long before at that intensity, or the legs are heavy from the previous weeks solo training. It is strictly business once the pace line is intact. The only communicating to let the person know they are clear to take the pull. As long as you are not a complete wheel sucker for the whole ride you will be allowed to hang on.

I use this ride as my race pace ride for the week. I used to be able to stay with my group but I have gotten slower and heavier and the rest of the guys have gotten lighter and faster. Although, this off training and training season I am working on the weight (hopefully down to 200 from 235) and I intend to more interval training during the week and using Sat. and Sun as my long distance endurance rides.

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1/18/12 8:39 A

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If the club is not close, check out to see who is riding in your area. Maybe two or three of you can ride together. Then learn and encourage one another. I learned my road riding skills from club members who put up with me riding a hybrid, while they were on road bikes. Their encouragement kept me going. I purchased a road bike. We did have dues, but when a new mountain bike trail opened in our area, we encouraged one another to give time instead. I don't know when our next meeting is and I'm the secretary. We have had a fairly routine route on different rides, on certain days which we work with all the riders....the faster ones are off, the slower ones are encouraged. Everything from what butt-creme to use, to what would improve my speed, is discussed... I've switched pedals several times to find the best for me. Our local bike shop is our go to for information. I do more mountain biking, now, due to trail work and really like it. We have had a Metric ride, we sponsor, locally, for the past 4 years. I've loved it, but we have few helpers and it may not take place this year.
See if you can't get with one or two people to ride, as it helps. This is coming from one who does a lot of solo riding, because I love to be on the bike!

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1/18/12 7:21 A

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I have found that I like riding at my pace. When I want to push, I do. When I want to ease up, I do. Additionally, I'm so used to not taking breaks, but finishing the ride up. Groups tend to take breaks often so as to satisfy its members. So, I train and ride by myself 99% of the time and find it relaxing. Perhaps if I were to find a nearby club that met my needs (I live in the "sticks"), I would join.

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1/18/12 1:59 A

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I would still try my chance with that club. What would you lose? I have joined a cycling club not long ago, and I am still one of the slowest (well, counting calories for a deficiency does not help either). In return, I am getting a lot of explanation on the riding technique and so forth. Last sunday I did my first ever 40 mile ride in the mountain trails. I am not still totally recovered. They have been very encouraging and very patient with me.

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BARRONVC's Photo BARRONVC Posts: 1,845
1/17/12 7:03 P

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Toothful99 has some good thinking. Social life on two wheels is a good way to go.

Riding in groups even a small group has a safety factor built in. Two or three people can watch out for each other better than one. If you have a problem someone and always go for help or offer an extra set of hands. Like whacking mosquitoes off the guy changing the flat.

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1/17/12 6:51 P

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Another option for you, if you want to ride with someone and possibly get group rides going would be to check/put an ad on Craigs List. There might be other people in your area in the same boat.
I do enjoy the social aspect of riding with others. I always say my social life is on two wheels!

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1/17/12 6:06 P

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Mark, I'd be in the same situation you are if I wanted to join a club. Truthfully, I'm so non-social that I really have to desire to do that, anyway ! I enjoy competing against myself on my own level -- trying to get to that ten-mile marker a little sooner every time, working to keep my cadence a little faster for a little longer, etc - I don't particularly want to chat with anyone, and don't want to hear about the latest gear I can't afford either ;-) Which is all good, since the nearest city with my LBS is 17 miles away and doesn't have a club for old ladies on bikes ;-) And the next nearest town is 40 miles away... And as you said, I'd rather spend that time riding my bike than hauling it. Clubs sound like a lot of fun for a lot of people, it's just not my cup o' tea at the moment. Ride on!

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1/17/12 5:03 P

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sadly its the only club within at least an hour of me, and i'd prefer not driving 60-90 minutes just to get to a ride location when thats an extra 2-3 hours i could spend riding, know what i mean? The club thats closest to me is extremely competitive. they have folks finishing on the podium in national races. Their message boards are open to the public, and i never once saw anything for slower/beginner riders...so its probably not a great match for me.

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1/17/12 3:04 P

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I agree with Barron on this one. The only way to improve is to challenge yourself. I know both routes. If we are going to stop at BWW for beverages and I know I am not up to par I will take the 4 mile short course and be there (LBS) ahead of them. If I feel good, I'll let them I will be on the long route and ask if they will wait. Often times I am a gluten for punishment and I will still push myself to catch the wheel knowing it will never happen. However, there have been times where I have hooked up with other riders who were dropped and lost. Before you know it we have caught up with some other dropped riders and hooked up and now we have a nice pace line going. There have been times where we hooked up with the fast group on the last 6 miles and raced her home in a huge rotating pace line.

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1/17/12 2:40 P

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TOOTHFUL99

"One way I found to make sure that I don't get "dropped" is to lead some of the club rides myself. That way, everyone has to go my speed!"

This is good goat thinking! If you don't want to get dropped you need to learn how to suck a wheel and how to spot a good steady wheel.

Don't worry about getting dropped. Know the route and be ready to take care of yourself. You will have confidence, then adapt and have fun. There is always someone slower and someone faster. Find a ride with a good Shepard, that looks over the group.

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1/17/12 2:23 P

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I would say go for it for the various reasons already stated. Also, we get discounts on acessories from the LBS if we are club members. My have paid for itself every year with what I save on gloves, tubes, tires, tools, nutritional supplements, clothing etc. Also, you will become a better rider and also better in cycling in a group.

Currently I am in the 3rd tier of the A group almost at the 2nd tier again. If I can keep my weight down and interval training up this year, I might find myself back into the 2nd tier with my riding buds.

We will see what my off season training will bring me.

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1/17/12 2:18 P

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Is that the only club in your area? Check around. Sometimes there are different clubs to fit different needs.

Also, check with the club to see if they have any beginner rides. Some might have a lot of faster paced rides, but have a ride one night each week for slower riders.

Another option is to check with all of your local bike shops. They often have rides leaving their shops certain evenings which may split into different skill levels.

In the colder months, I may only average 13-14 mph and then in the summer it's more like 14-15 mph. I ride with a club that has a variety of rides to meet everyone's needs. Some are out of my league. One way I found to make sure that I don't get "dropped" is to lead some of the club rides myself. That way, everyone has to go my speed!


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1/17/12 2:16 P

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Check out the clubs. There are different levels. They don't go that far or real fast. They usually have several groups too, A, B, C. Leave at the same time and they break off according to speed. You will go faster in the group too.

Next, LBS have rides. In my areas we have at least one on Tues, Wed, Thurs night as then on Sat am. You can find different levels. On the week night, you are looking at 12 to 17 for the C group and maybe 14 -15 average, I think you can handle that working in a group. B is 15-18 and covers about 20-22 miles and you will be able to do that in now time. A is 18-22 about 28 miles.

Another is C some women and will go about 17 or until they fall off and finish in little pack of 4 to 8, B 18-23 and again will break into small packs, and A 27+ average for 28 miles. Everybody knows the route and will finish at their own pace.

Chat rides, monitored, 2 shoulders up, close formation, steady speed to accommodate the slower riders, coaching from leaders to help improve form and technique, safe, hand signals, wait at stop signs. Beginning of year about 13 -14, as the year progresses will average about 17-18 for about 23-27 miles. Usually the same course and has loops to cut it short for weather or light.

Sometimes fitness clubs start a cycling club or workplaces.

There you go, find your fit.

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I know how you feel. When I first for back in the bike I was concerned about my pace. I quickly found out that not all cycling clubs go fast all the time. The club I am associated with has several sub groups. leisurely to ultra fast and on the more moderate speed groups no on is left behind.

I'm sure you'll find a group that you can grow with. by the way, after riding with my club for 4 years now, I've been elected as one of the directors. LOL, what a surprise...I never thought I'd be doing that!

just a note, when I got back on the bike I weighed in around 270 pounds. I now weigh 183!

keep those wheels moving!
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Looking for input about potentially joining a cycling club once the new england winter is over and outdoor cycling starts up again. Problem is, I only do about 25-30 miles a ride at a 13mph pace, and I know the club guys ride at 20mph paces and much longer distance.

Is it worth it to join up with a club, or just save the money and continue training on my own until I'm closer to their level?

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