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9/7/11 4:03 P

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@imsmiley.... DO the bike ride.. you've done a tri and you're a runner.. what not ctry a cycling accomplishment?? it will add variety while still improving your running :)

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9/7/11 3:56 P

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I have to put in a plug for the MS150. The year I did it they put on a great ride. The ride was great, they had plenty of volunteers, the food was truly impressive. I'll have to admit that I stayed in a hotel between rides; my 50 year old back doesn't like sleeping on the ground any more so camping then riding 75 miles didn't sound good.
The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society's Team In Training is also awesome. A much bigger fund raising commitment than the MS150 but they organize training rides, have coaches, and the events are great.

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9/7/11 3:46 P

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I like a short break from cycling in the winter. I don't mean stop entirely; doing winter rides is kinda' fun but a break from serious training. For a change of pace I used to ride a track bike in the winter; some people use mountain biking, cyclocross, cross-country skiing, swimming, running, or whatever. I'm can be a little burnt out on cycling by Fall but a short break leaves me eager to cycle again in the Spring. Strength training is also best done in the off-season.
The one bit of advice I found most valuable is training itself does not make you stronger. You get stronger when you recover. You need quality training and quality recovery. If you don't fully recover than you don't get the full benefit from your training. It is easier to over-train than you think. Many people increase their distance and intensity too fast and don't give themselves adequate recovery time.
I like to start the season with plenty of base miles of easy spinning before doing any sort of hard training. After the base miles my muscles and joints are ready for intervals and hard rides.
Belonging to a club or team helps a lot. You will learn from other cyclists and being expected on rides gets you out the door when you might skip it if you were on your own.
I never hired a coach but the cyclists I know who sought professional guidance were glad they did. When I raced I based my training schedule on Eddie Borysewicz' book but I ignored his dated ideas about sports nutrition.

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9/7/11 7:07 A

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The MS 150 isn't until late April & my last Half is mid-June. There are basically 10 weeks of longer & longer rides that start here the weekend after the Half. So, really, I think it'll just be a matter of deciding what I want to do by then.

Dana, Half Fanatic #1693

Completed 2013 Events:
Feb 9 - Pedaling the Prairie, 45 miles
Feb 16 - Lions Club Bike Ride, 46.5 miles
Mar 3 - The Great Plane Ride, 25 hilly miles
Aug 18 - TriGirl Sprint Duathlon
Sept 2 - Dam Ride, 32 miles


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9/6/11 11:24 P

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IMSMILEY88,

You have been running a lot. Set some priorities.

When is the Houston to Austin MS 150?

To do that 75 miles each day you will need more saddle time.

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9/6/11 8:40 P

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I have Friel's book for triathletes, too! And, I'm really in a debating stage right now about what to do after my 3 Half Marathons...start training for triathlon season like this year? Or start trainnig for the MS150 Houston to Austin...my first major bike ride! (My long ride at this point is 'only' 20 miles.) Thanks for all the tips! And, I love it here in Houston...there's very few times you can't get out & ride! But, I love spinning classes, too! And, as a runner (& somewhat of a triathlete), I get in a lot of cross training!

Dana, Half Fanatic #1693

Completed 2013 Events:
Feb 9 - Pedaling the Prairie, 45 miles
Feb 16 - Lions Club Bike Ride, 46.5 miles
Mar 3 - The Great Plane Ride, 25 hilly miles
Aug 18 - TriGirl Sprint Duathlon
Sept 2 - Dam Ride, 32 miles


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9/6/11 12:39 P

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@Bill60...I just bought Friel's book for triathelete's. :) I heard he's the end all beat all for triatheletes and cycling. :)

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9/6/11 12:11 A

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Thanks for all the terrific replies! Plus I am so glad that I am on the right track to set up a training schedule this fall for next summer. I am in NW WA right on the border and we don't get the snow (odd right?) but very wet, grey and a cold that just sinks into your bones. I tried to ride as much as possible but soon enough it will not be a good mix outside. I will look into all the resources that have been provided ... and please keep sharing! Its great to get advice form more experienced cyclists!

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9/5/11 10:42 P

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Lots of good info.

When looking at a program or off season training plan focus at the big picture, then get specific. It's not about a trainer, a book, or exercise that will be magical, the overall plan must be executed. It no different than weight-loss, you need to find your weaknesses, track, and adapt.

Start making a lists in September. Goals, strengths, weaknesses, position, efficiency, etc. Each little gain adds up.

Over the years I have learned to adapt. You can only do that with history. Pay attention and don't get hurt.

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9/5/11 9:47 P

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I'm actually a doer as opposed to a reader. However, there is so much to cycling that I have become both a doer and an avid reader of the sport. There's two publications that I would recommend:
"The Complete Book of Long-Distance Cycling" by Edward R. Burke and Ed Pavelka.
This book explains the basics of cycling.
"The Cyclist's Training Bible" by Joel Friel is the logical next step. It goes into great detail about the physiology, training, and planning of cycling. Joel Friel is considered by many to be the guru of modern cycling training. His book teaches you how to create your own annual training plan. If you want to progress beyond the basics of cycling, without having to hire a trainer, this book is a must. Good luck..

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9/5/11 8:40 P

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Another inexpensive resource is reading cycling magazines. They usually have a section with a training plan that you can use for free. The best resource I have found is someone to train with that will keep your feet to the fire. Riding with someone also keeps you accountable to yourself. Congrats on your first of what will be hopefully be many more centuries!!!!!!

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9/5/11 7:44 P

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thanks! i'm gonna check it out now! :)

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9/5/11 6:42 P

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Here is a link to a previous conversation. I normally don't do this and usually just post the information but since it's not my information I thought I would just link the actual post. www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_mes
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This looks like a great schedule to get ready for the upcoming year.

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9/5/11 5:31 P

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Depending on our winter's here in upstate NY we may get an occasional day where it is mild enough and the roads are free enough from salty slop to allow for an occasional outing.

Last winter I don't think we were so fortunate...ugh!

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9/5/11 4:51 P

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YES make that LIST!! i'd love to know more and pick your brain(s).. everyone's :)

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Sparks Peeps,

I have some outlines for winter training. Like Don, the winter us nasty up in the frozen tundra of Wisconsin (ala Green Bay Packers frozen tundra).

When I was serious and did racing I tired to defy the elements and train outside in the winter. Now that I'm older and have more common sense I embrace that time to rest my cycling muscles and work on my weaknesses. Weaknesses like core strength, lumbar/back strength, balance, flexibility, and over all fitness.

I've taken a pounding over the years from hard work. My mind and body are adapting.

Cross country skiing is a good venue but there are many more if you start looking.

If you are interested in more I'll compile some info. Got to get back to work......

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Congrats on your 1st century!

If you can I HIGHLY recommend joining a local bike club...just LOVE catching up with folks who share my love of cycling and trading tips, routes, etc.

Barron is right re: planning for next year. Last winter was TORTUOUS for me as I was going through TERRIBLE cycling withdrawal. I finally gave in and sprung for the $$ to join a fitness center. I am a fair-weather cyclist. Cold, snow and rain just pulls the plug from any enjoyment I get on the bike. So winters are tough for me.

I should have a better back up plan, like cross country skiing...! :-)

Don

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Next season starts now!

Get a plan starting from October. You will want to include strength training.

Yes I have seen professionals for fitting but have been doing this long enough I know what to do. To see a professional to evaulate your position, flexibility, form and make recommendations would be helpful.

This is a deep question.

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I did my 1st Century this year! Next summer my goal is to also include the Seattle to Vancouver Ride .... what I learned on my 1st Century is that my training was lacking. I lost my drive at the half way mark... typical it is very cool here and boy was it warm that day which really drains your energy. My training was biking home 2-3 times a week (23 miles) and then attempting to get a longer ride in on the weekends... which was difficult just due to the family schedule.

So if you are doing long rides .... any training tips?
Do you belong to a club? ( I was a bit wishing I did as they took turns in the head winds)
Have you ever hired a professional to help setup and evaluate your program?


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