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8/22/11 11:51 A

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hmmm... never thought about raising the handle bars.. i'll have to take it back to the bike shop and have the tweek it a little for me. .. or practice riding the drops more first.. and then see. i just got the bike in JUly.. and even though it already has 400 miles on it.. I feel like i'm still learning to get comfy with it.

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8/22/11 11:23 A

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A lot of people have their handlebars too low for their level of fitness and flexibility. When someone never uses the drops they can usually benefit from raising their bars. The whole point of road bars is to offer a variety of hand positions for best comfort and efficiency. If you are only using 2/3's of the positions you aren't getting your money's worth. I finally gave up my deep drop bars. Back in the day I liked a large change from the tops and hoods to the drops. I got in the drops when I meant business. Now with a little taller stem and shallower drop bars I'm using the drops again and I find the tops and hoods more comfortable as well. When I raced my handlebars used to be 4" below my saddle and was perfectly comfortable but now I like them about 1" lower.

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8/22/11 9:33 A

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thanks for th elink and all your honest opinions.. i have been slacking on doing my core and back workouts the last couple of months... started back up on themthis past week..

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8/22/11 8:43 A

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Here is my 2 cents worth as well. I do have aero bars, however, true cyclists will stay away from you for reasons already stated. They don't trust bikes with areo bars in a group setting. I use them and find them to help keep me comfortable. However, I can go about 40-50 miles without resorting to use them. If I do use them earlier than that it is because I am riding alone and I am bucking a head wind.

The reason I use them is because I have a weak core and back!!!!!!! I think if I can strengthen the two I probably would not need them unless I am in a TRI ot TT of which I do do.

The only time I use them in group setting is when I have been dropped and I am riding alone; other wise I am on the hoods or the drops.

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8/22/11 12:02 A

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Here's a link to trekking bars from the man himself... Sheldon Brown.

sheldonbrown.com/deakins/handlebars.
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Good luck with the Aero Bars.
On the Tri bike I rode they were definitely aerodynamic... and definitely uncomfortable.
They stretch you waaaay out, and tuck your elbows in.

Edited by: TOPAHI at: 8/22/2011 (00:03)
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8/21/11 11:58 P

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You may have to make some position changes. Mark your position before moving anything. I have a Serrota T square to transfer position between bikes and make adjustments. I LBS might let you use one to get your numbers. Here are some moves you may want to consider; move seat fore/aft, tilt the nose down, bring bars up, and that sort of thing. If the elbow pads seem to be too low you might be able to shim them up. I made shims for LBS to help fit riders with aero bars.

I spend over 1000 miles trying to tune aero bars in on a specific bike, it was too strange for me and I didn't have the need so I gave them away. My position is professionally tuned so I'm really in the groove on the road bike. I've done a 40K in 56 min without them and no aero wheels years ago, I don't do TT anymore.

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8/21/11 10:57 P

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Give those drops a whirl Gwen...I never DREAMED I'd like 'em but they've become my go to position for straightaway cycling, changing to hoods or the inner bar for uphill or slow pedaling. Using all three positions routinely helps me to avoid any numbness or hand discomfort.

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8/21/11 8:19 P

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I found this link: www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php
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Some people are either for them or against them and it seems to be a mixed review.. I'm a triathelete.. intend to keep competing as one... i am goaling towards a tribike in the future... but since i just got mr Trek Roadbike this year and haven't been using the full handlebars.. I mostly ride on the top and not the c part.. i'm still experimenting with comfort positions.. i will say.. Doing RBR's..saving the quads for the run after would be spectacular.. especially since i'm gearing towards a HIM In 2012 and an Ironman in 2013.

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8/21/11 7:49 P

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Here is a link on some of the history and feed back from riders on their experiences of aero bars..
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.
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8/21/11 7:37 P

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ok..ok.. you'll convince me for now.. I don't use thedrops too much yet on my bike.. maybe i need to switcht othat..my bigget issues is my left elbow and thumb going numb after 50 milers...I know it has to do howi hold me neck and stuff...so i've been working with it...and what are trekking bars..is there a link somewhere i can look at that???

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8/21/11 7:37 P

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Thanks for the suggestions... I went on- line and bought a pair to try. Like I mentioned I DO NOT race or do time trials. I cycle because I just like being on the open roads for long stretches and rarely go with any group rides. Myself and 1 friend or 2 will ride when we can all line up our time.
I am going to try these purely for comfort on longer rides, My arms get tired after 30 miles and even though I change positions a lot I want to try these . I am not looking for any benefit from the aerodynamic perspective for speed or a 40 K time trial.To me cycling is just about the fitness aspect not worrying about how competitive I am with others.
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8/21/11 4:42 P

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From experience being a ride Marshall at Tri's and Du's. Most crashes are from people using aero bars. You really need to be a good bike handler to take a fast corner.

Almost everytime I ride up on someone and there knees are way out as they pedal, bike is weaving, and speed is not that great. It's a newbie with aero bars.

I would say your benefit from being aerodynamic won't be noticed until you can average 21-22 in a 40k time-trial.

Comfort, same as Bill, awkward.

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8/21/11 3:46 P

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I've used them in both time trials and long rides and here's my 2 cents:
They're outlawed in races other than time trials due to the loss of control. The position is awkward and the distance to the brakes way too far in the event of an emergency.
They did make me faster in rides and races, but the position was very uncomfortable for me.
I now use them only for time trials.
That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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Hmm...curious topic, have seen both the trekking and aero bars and wondered about them for longer distances. Love my drops and all the hand positions it offers, but these would offer yet more which is why they appeal to me. As well as possible comfort, but it makes sense that one would want to try 'em first if possible.

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8/21/11 12:48 P

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Aero bars are meant for speed, not to be comfortable.
They put you in a more aerodynamic position... hence the name.
They also offer significantly less control.

I do see a few people using Trekking bars in a touring set-up.
They would seem to offer more hand positions and a more stretched out riding position without being in the "drops".
I have never tried them though.



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8/21/11 11:31 A

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I tried them one season to see if they were everything you said. The answer is not for me. I did ride 8 centuries, 1 double century that year and none with aero bars.

If you don't race or do a tri, don't get aero bars. If you need a specific frame set up to you and a dialed in position. Gemotries on Tri bikes are really different and very upright in the seat tube. In my opinion they are not comfortable or safe to ride. They are not as stable, never ride them in a group, and they don't brake as well. They are not legal in bike races, only time-trials and tri's.

This is only my opinion. I'm an old road guy that has logged tons of miles and have several surgeries from which I have limited flexibility. I did test the aero bars when I was still flexible.


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8/21/11 11:27 A

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all my triclub friends say aero bars are much better for longer rides.. and having done my century ride of 118 miles.. I was REALLY wishing for them about mile 60... so for me .. I'd say yes.

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8/21/11 9:43 A

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I have a question about aero handlebars.. I do not race or time trail BUT I see many riders along the back roads here and along the trails that use these for long distances to get more comfortable I am told..

So my question is... Do they make the longer rides more comfortable for hand position and lower back, and If I do install them is there still room for my bike computer?

I currently ride a Trek 2.1

Thanks !!



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