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1/8/07 4:25 P

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My husband and I are pretty well matched, but he is a bit faster than I am. Because of this we have actually found it is better for him to lead most of the ride while I draft, that way he gets a tougher workout because he is breaking the wind. We actually hit +30mph on flats this way and I lead when I am feeling the strongest and during warm up and cool downe.

The caveat to drafting is that you have to be in the leader's wake for this to work. That means the drafter must be NO MORE than 1 foot off of the leader's rear wheel - closer if possible. The problem with that is the drafter is at the mercy of the leader for stopping, slowing and going around obsticles.

So, you have to have good hand signals and communication. Also, if you are new to drafting, you really have to trust the people you are drafting with to know what they are doing. A person leading a draft must try to maintain a steady speed, an even cadance, steady body position and smooth speed up and slow down. If you don't have a good vibe with a drafting team then prepare to eat pavement.

As for the original problem of this thread (getting sick during a ride from pushing too hard), drafting with a team that is a similar leel as you can be a good way to incorporate intervals so that you are not pushing really hard all the time. Take the lead when you are feeling strong and draft when you are feeling like you are pushing too hard.

Also, make sure to keep up your hydration and electrolytes. Dehydration and hyperneutramia can cause nausea. I find sugary electrolyte drinks make my stomach turn. Try low sugar ones like Ultima and I suggest using a bladder to stay hydrated.

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1/8/07 4:23 P

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My husband and I are pretty well matched, but he is a bit faster than I am. Because of this we have actually found it is better for him to lead most of the ride while I draft, that way he gets a tougher workout because he is breaking the wind. We actually hit +30mph on flats this way and I lead when I am feeling the strongest and during warm up and cool downe.

The caveat to drafting is that you have to be in the leader's wake for this to work. That means the drafter must be NO MORE than 1 foot off of the leader's rear wheel - closer if possible. The problem with that is the drafter is at the mercy of the leader for stopping, slowing and going around obsticles.

So, you have to have good hand signals and communication. Also, if you are new to drafting, you really have to trust the people you are drafting with to know what they are doing. A person leading a draft must try to maintain a steady speed, an even cadance, steady body position and smooth speed up and slow down. If you don't have a good vibe with a drafting team then prepare to eat pavement.

As for the original problem of this thread (getting sick during a ride from pushing too hard), drafting with a team that is a similar leel as you can be a good way to incorporate intervals so that you are not pushing really hard all the time. Take the lead when you are feeling strong and draft when you are feeling like you are pushing too hard.

Also, make sure to keep up your hydration and electrolytes. Dehydration and hyperneutramia can cause nausea. I find sugary electrolyte drinks make my stomach turn. Try low sugar ones like Ultima and I suggest using a bladder to stay hydrated.

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1/1/07 11:58 P

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Hi JessM21,
It's tough to keep up with the guys. In general, they have more muscle,less fat making a better power to weight ratio, as well as have a greater VO2 (oxygen carrying capacity). With the same amount and type of training, he will probably be better than you.

Have you tried to communicate that you want to have a pleasure ride, and if he wants to train, to use another time instead of your rides together.

Check your area for clubs to ride with. You can learn so much from riding with other people, asking questions, and watching them. on every ride I always watch other riders, their cadence, position, etc.

My husband lets me lead, when he drops me on long climbs, he waits ahead. We work together as a team, especially on long loaded tours in isolated places like Alaska.

Experiment with different types of foods before and during rides. From years of riding toast or oatmeal always works, and doesn't bother my stomach. I eat about an hour before going out.

Good luck and happy bicycling

 
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1/1/07 3:14 P

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I've had similar issues w/ my bf too, but we seem to have worked it out, thankfully. I think you really need to find your pace and not feel like you have to push too hard to keep up. If he doesn't like that, he'll have to find a way to deal w/ it. I wonder if the nausea is from pushing too hard. Do you have a heart rate monitor, or can you use a percieved exertion scale when you go out, you don't want to go too hard, you will negate any benefit if you are overtraining. My bf goes out ahead, like the other person suggested w/ her husband, he goes out and comes back to check on me if I get too far behind (not just in cycling, but for skiing, running, and anything else we do.) You may need to experiment w/ what you are eating and when also, if you have a sensitive stomach, you need to find food that won't cause more problems. I've tried to find bars, gels, and other food that works for me in these situations, but I also know I need to eat more frequently that my bf so I need to take care of that for myself.

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12/28/06 11:12 P

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Okay, I have experience in this. When Dh and I started riding, he was way faster than me. Eventually, he started calling me the "pokey puppy". Needless to say, it made me angry, so I started "stealth training" without him. That way, I could go my own pace and get my base training in without the pressure. So, one day we went on a thirty mile hilly route and I just laid the hammer down and dropped him, HARD. I decided that no matter what I was fed up and he was gonna hurt that day. That is the day things changed.

So, from experience, start riding your ride. Ride your own pace and ride where you want to ride. You'll get faster quicker if you don't try to kill yourself everytime you ride. Ride at least four times per week. The best advice I ever received was this: 3xweek maintains, 4xweek progresses, 2xweek loses.


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12/28/06 4:11 P

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I agree with what KJeanne said. When I started riding with my BF, he was WAY better than me (he still is, lol). But he taught me how to draft off of him for hard stretches, and made sure we always started at my pace. He was training for a double Century, and I was trying for 10 miles, so he's ride with me for the first 5, then I'd turn around, load my bike on the car, and go back and be the support vehicle for the rest of the ride. This way, even though he was "sacrificing" part of his ride, I was giving him something he needed for his ride too. He always denied that it was sacrificing, because he would increase his cadence or practice other skills that he didn't do on a fast ride, so he was getting a good benefit from our slower rides. He would push me, but always would slow down if I fell off the pace. Also, he always tried to keep me pedalling, even if it was very slow. Another thing he did on occasion was ride ahead for a mile, then turn around to get me and keep going. this way, he always knew I wassafe, could get a few extra miles in, and wasn't pushing me beyond what I could do.

Hope some of those suggestions help. By the way, this year, we rode two metric centuries, together the whole way.

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12/28/06 3:32 P

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Thanks for the advice. Him and I had a talk and I told him my needs and stuff. Our longest ride was 45mi. anyway he agreed to my terms he scheduled me with a guy he works with that also rides to kinda give us both pointers so yea that will be great emoticon

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12/28/06 3:07 P

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I ride with my husband all the time and he's great! He almost always lets me lead and set the pace, as I'm much slower than he is. If he passes me up on a hill he will stop and wait for me at the top, and will wait with me when I need a rest to catch my breath.

I'm hoping this year I will be in better shape so I can follow his lead now and then! Our longest rides have been in the 25-30 mile range so far, but want to really extend that this summer to the 50 mile range. We like to bike early in the morning, so I usually have a yogurt or a piece of toast before we go, plenty of water on the ride, and a good breakfast when we get home.

Hope you are able to work out what you need to do to avoid nausea....that sure takes the fun out of riding.

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12/27/06 10:02 P

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Sounds like you are pushing too hard trying to keep up with dh. I know how that feels. I am very competitive and always try to keep up with my dh, but then I come to my senses and realize he’s stronger than me and slow down!

There are few ways to solve this problem: get out on rides by yourself. You’ll be able to find out what you are capable of. Ask your husband to allow you to set the pace. When he starts circling ignore him. He’s just being a jerk. He may think it will help push you but you need to tell him how it makes you feel. Try riding with a local club on their organized rides.

It’s great to ride with your dh but not if you can’t enjoy it.


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What are you eating? What are you drinking? Are you pushing yourself too much? When I first started out, I rode solo so I didn't feel the need to keep up with someone. Later on, I joined group rides. I tend to eat a small sandwich before a ride, and if its a 50+ mile ride, I stop for a protein bar, then I tend to have a heavy meal afterwards.

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12/27/06 2:01 P

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Are you eating right before the ride?
I usually try to eat about 2 hours before the ride so the food has had some time to digest. If I push myself on a ride right after eating, I will get nauseas like you described.
On longer rides, I like to eat a banana about 1/2 way through the ride. I can keep riding, but I definitely drop the pace some and sit more upright so that the banana can digest some before I try to ride hard again.

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Its both but more of the Nauseous. I mean when i need to stop i stop. I tell him just to go ahead without me but he wont so he just starts circling me and doing stupid stuff that really pisses me off anyway like whats a good healthy meal to eat before the ride.. Maybe i'll try going with out him and going with someone more my fitness level but if i do that I'm afraid i will not try as hard because i want to beat him so bad and show him i can do it because he always telling me i'll never beat him More tips would be so gratefull

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When you say you get sick, do you mean your stomach? Nauseous or ? How ahrd are you pushing? If you are trying to keep up with dh and he's much more fit, that's enough to push anyone over the edge. Maybe you need to do some easier, shorter rides (with or without him) until you build up your fitness level?

Fwiw, I try to have a very light meal before I ride and not eat too much while riding.

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12/27/06 1:11 P

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Ok my husband and I just picked up the road bike sport umm about 7 mo ago and we LOVE IT!! its the first thing we can actually do together and something we both love. Anyways I seem to ALWAYS get sick on every ride weather its 5mi or 50mi. I've tried eating before and during the ride I'll feel good then i just get sick all of a sudden. My husband is very fit and i feel that im dissapointing him every time this happends. He is NOT AT ALL the supporting or understading type so can you help what do i do to help make this stop???? emoticon

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