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4/4/11 3:16 P

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If things are fine don't worry about it. As I mentioned go to a shop and watch how a real Pro does this. Keep it in mind for the future and educate yourself. Without a fitter and custom frame I would be riding a wheel chair or being pulled in a bugger.

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4/4/11 2:21 P

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Thx for the tip...will keep it in mind...not sure if I want to jump down this rabbit hole just yet, as I really don't notice TOO much inconvenience...just get to thinking about tweaking things a little more to my liking.

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4/3/11 11:49 A

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DDOORN, once you start looking into a professional fitting your eyes will open. Don't get one yet! Go and observe some, check online, talk to people that have had them.

Is it going to make you 5 mph faster? I doubt it, depending on your current level and how inefficient your set up is. Along with the fitting will come and added responsibility to do the stretching and strength exercises prescribed, as well as, follow through with the fitter in the future as your body adapts.

Check out Retul fitting system, John is certified in this system. Also here is a link to the Johnny Huenink, he is certified in many other fitting systems as well.

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4/3/11 6:52 A

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Yep, this was one of the most persuasive arguments my LBS made which led me to switch my choice (from straight-handled hybrid to drop handled road bike) in buying my bike last February. I'm SO pleased with my choice!

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4/3/11 6:43 A

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I was reading some articles from Google on this subject and when it came to the hands being numb, it was suggested to change positions at least every 30 min or less. The author made note that on a road bike, this is fairly easy to do since the handle bars are curved downward and you have the lower bar option, the hoods, the top of the bar, etc.... I naturally do this as it does get tiring after a time in the same spot.

Just went on a 35 mile, sometimes very hilly ride. I did have some lower back and hip issues that were mild to moderate. I also noticed I tend to hit higher gears than I should with a lower cadence. I need to train myself to do the opposite! I feel tired with spinning and tend to want to go with the power...but I'm sure that is MORE tiring in the long run. Still confused about all the gearing!

Thanks to all for your input! Great information!


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4/2/11 10:38 P

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I'll have to look into this...even though I have no complaints, pain-wise, my hands rarely go all the way up to the hoods. They tend to settle short of the hoods on the bend of the handlebar and I wonder if the configuration of the bike could be altered to bring the hoods further back somehow.

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4/2/11 9:48 P

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A professional fitting by someone who knows what they are doing and is willing to take their time and let you come back to tweak the setup is well worth the money. Do it sooner rather than later and you will find yourself riding more since you will have less pain. Make sure you explain exactly what you want...comfort vs speed. If the fitter is not willing to listen find another one. I have had bad fitting bikes and now mine fit perfectly and it makes a world of difference.

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4/2/11 9:28 P

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To make your hands feel good if you have straight bars get the ergo grips or if you have road drop bars make them puffy and thick so your can hold on to squishiness. I double wrapped my bars and for my wrap I got a wrap that was pretty thick with gel inside it. So either double wrap or get some cushions for under the wrap. Do one of those things and you won't get pain in your hands and if you do then maybe you're leaning to far into the bars and supporting all your weight on your hands.so flip your stem around to make your handlebars higher or get a stem that will or maybe your seat is too high too.

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3/31/11 7:02 P

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I did a similar process after multiple surgeries to include a multi-level cervical spinal fusions, hip replacement, and lumbar spine surgery. I went to the best to be fitted for a custom frame. It took a few months working on flexibility and position. I also worked with John Howard for a good 1/2 day on flexibility and strength testing in tandem with the fitter I used. It took a team to get me going, all the info for my fitter and John was reviewed by the PT and Dr. It's been almost a year and I'm still on track working to improve my situation. I have no complaints or regrets, I'm old and beat up........but still going.

My physical issues were address 1st. Then we set parameters for the bike fit, had Serotta make a custom frame. It will take me time to get to my final position as I has another spinal surgery last May. It works and I feel more at home in the saddle than I have in 10 years.

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3/31/11 5:47 P

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Thanks, Carolyn... Interesting about the hands going numb. Mine do on long rides as well. Elbows get stiff too and my tennis elbow can get aggravated. I've heard from several cycle buddies that they get numbness in their hands and sometimes feet as well. Common.


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3/31/11 5:30 P

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Lynn - I started getting a sore hamstring after riding, which was aggravated by running. I know the initial injury came from riding, because it happened while riding. I also experience right knee pain, but not left knee pain. Over time I tried adjusting the seat and my cleats and I never could get it right. Because of the discomfort, I never wanted to ride.

Finally I found someone to do a professional fitting; luckily he only charged me $75.00. He spent 1.5 hours with me looking at everything from seat position high and low, front and back, as well as the tilt. He adjusted my cleats and gave me inserts for the shoes in order to properly, and he adjusted my handlebars, too.

When all was said and done I could ride painfree (with the exception of my hands going numb, which I don't think I'll ever fix). I'm finally comfortable now, so I would highly recommend a professional fit. Before you spend $150, however, ask around to see who people recommend. This particular person came to me highly recommended by more than one person.

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3/31/11 12:31 P

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All very interesting. I have been bothered by that muscle off and on for years. My trigger was riding on the back of my DH's motorcycle. So I think it's very possible that a change in seats could be helpful.

As for me, I fix my motorcycle issue by buying my own bike.

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3/31/11 11:01 A

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Don.... That's funny because the exact opposite was true of me! Had terrible sciatica and was thought to be a bulging disc as the cause but it turned out to be pirfirmoris syndrome. PT told me to build core strength and built in some exercises I'm doing to do just that. Also....for any soft muscle tissue disorder... Cut the sugar. Feeds inflammation. So started to do that as well.


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I was once upon a time thought to have Pirfirmoris Syndrome, however it turned out to be a squeezed disk in my back affecting the muscles in my legs. PT, building core strength and losing weight straightened all of that out for me.

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3/31/11 10:18 A

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I was fitted for the new bike. Seat adjusted, etc. But a professional bike fit goes beyond the basics that a LBS is going to do. This is Internationally. It can take two hours to be professionally fit by a certified bike fitter. Hence the cost. It is a lot of measuring, fitting, spending time on the trainer cycling to check the fits that will done from head to toe.


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I was fitted for the new bike. Seat adjusted, etc. But a professional bike fit goes beyond the basics that a LBS is going to do. This is Internationally. It can take two hours to be professionally fit by a certified bike fitter. Hence the cost. It is a lot of measuring, fitting, spending time on the trainer cycling to check the fits that will done from head to toe.


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3/31/11 9:50 A

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Tenis,
Did you buy your Fuji at a local bike shop?
I'm thinking that you could go there, explain that you've had this problem for a couple of years, and that it continued after buying the Fuji, perhaps it is a bike fit issue. Then ask them for a complimentary basic fit to see if anything is off.
A good bike shop would have done some fit, or at least offered it, before selling you the bike.

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3/31/11 9:22 A

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I had a lot of neck and shoulder pain and numbness in my hands to the point that I could hardly use a key to open a door, and I would drop salt shakers etc. when I was on my old bike. Then I was fitted for a bike and that all but went away. I don't know about the piriformis but it seems possible that it would help

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3/31/11 9:10 A

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I've been dealing with Pirfirmoris Syndrome (a small muscle behind your glute that attaches to your hip...sits over the sciatica so when it is inflamed, it puts pressure on it causing shooting pain down that nerve, not to mention muscle soreness/tenderness in the center of your butt cheek) off and on for two years now. Just spent over a thousand dollars ($900 out of pocket) on therapy for the issue! I've blamed running, but after a 20 mile ride yesterday, the first outdoor ride of the season (been doing computraining with little to no issue at all in this area during the off season), the pirfirmoris, which was 95% healed, seemed aggravated. So now I'm thinking it could be due to cycling more than running (I train for triathlons). That said...I am wondering if a professional bike fit would help with such a thing.

Does anyone have experience of having injuries from cycling resolved (or feel, prevented injuries from...) having a professional bike fit? I've checked around and everyone that does it here charges $150. I don't mind spending it if I think it'll really help as it would SAVE money and lost cycling time due to future injury.

The bike I currently ride, a Fuji Road Bike, is only a year old. The pirfirmoris thing started on a hybrid bike after I started using clipless pedals (the only common thing I can link this muscle issue with between the two bikes).


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