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12/26/10 4:36 P

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Congrats on scoring a deal on Freecycle! I've never used it myself, but it's a great premise.

Enjoy those indoor miles...

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12/26/10 3:48 P

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Freecycle is worth investigating however just a note of caution: there can be quite the protocol involved with proper etiquette, etc. I was trying to give things away via Freecycle and had a bunch of folks cursing me out for not following the "rules" and I gave up, dropped off at Salvation Army instead.

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12/26/10 3:32 P

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I don't know how many of you are familiar with freecycle but it's pretty popular here. I was just about to go out in the snowstorm we're getting here to go to the bike shop and look at trainers and someone posted a blackburn trakstand on freecycle which is now mine i just have to wait for philadelphia to get plowed out so i can go pick it up but that means I can afford to go get a spare wheel with a training tire and still spend less then the trainer would have cost me. so again thanks to everyone here for their advice it looks like i'll be able to take advantage of almost all of it now :)

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Bro,

I'm old and really chilled out compared to what I was like 10 years ago. Now I try to use the old man muscles (between the ears).



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Thanks to everyone for their suggestions I'm going to my LBS tomorrow to see whats available. and Barron you're insane lol I know people in federal law enforcement who couldn't do the workout you're describing. I really appreciate all the advice though lots of great ideas that will hopefully come to fruition shortly.

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Are you near a local bike shop?

PERRYR gave you a clue to go there. Here is another clue...you can dumpster dive old wheels and tires from the local bike shop. If you can experiment and don't worry if you mess something up. It cheap and you never know when you will find a real treasure like a bike frame or pump that needs a seal.

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PERRYR's Photo PERRYR Posts: 668
12/25/10 2:58 P

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Spare wheel for a mountain bike is dirt cheap as it can be used wheel from a throw-away Huffy.. Like others said, at some point you'll have worn out road tires. Easy to get from a friend if you don't have one. Or, go to LBS or on line and buy cheapest smooth tire they have. No concerns for weight of wheel and tire for the trainer.
Ok - that was easy - now; what if the wheel you find for free isn't true? Sorry, you'll have to tweak it a bit so it runs smooth on the trainer. Not hard to do and only tool required is a spoke wrench and a little know-how.

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I like the "long version"...MOST impressive regimen and plan for yourself...! Going to hang onto this and see what I can follow as well!

Thx for sharing!

Don

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12/25/10 1:55 P

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My reply might not fit the desired answers but I'll give you what I have.

You have a lot of good suggestions for the Sparks People.

There are many types of trainers and they all have a purpose. Pick the one that fits your needs, a trainer is worthless unless you use it. They can be boring and for that reason you need to discover a method to keep you interested.

A smooth rear tire is pretty much required. Those knobby tires will require ear plugs no matter how quiet your trainer is.

A specific training tire? It's nice if you can afford one, don't ride it on the road, they are usually a yellow color and really slippery on the road. Save your junk tires for this purpose. I grab old racing tires that have sidewall cuts, put a patch under the slit and ride them all winter, they are worthless on the road.

Keep your tires clean and inflated. Every session I clean the tires off with a mild cleaner, inflate, and check tension.

A spare wheel, nice if you only have one bike or want to get outside on a nice day. It's a very good thing to have but not necessary. Some people have trainer bikes that are old and eaten up with sweat. So remember this, clean off all the sweat every time you ride indoors. Use towels or some method to protect the bike from dripping sweat, it will eat the bike up. Little fan goes a long way, or open a window.

Fluid or magnetic??? Whatever meets your needs. Make a list of your considerations, ride a few in a good bike shop, bring your IPod and see if you can hear it over the noise.

Been riding inside during the winter since the 1960's. One of my favorite workouts is still the rollers. I had the 1st version of the RacerMate with the squirrel cages, loud but still a workout. I still use an old Cat-eye as it's stable.

Finding used trainers is pretty easy. Check the net, online stores, Local Bike Shop, used bike websites, ebay, Crag's list. Check with a local bike club or race team, there is always someone wanting to sell the older stuff and get the newest. Good deal for you.

Being motivated! The DVD's are good. Watching TV works. The computrainer is nice to challenge you or study the biofeedback. Indoor training can be mindless or take great concentration, your choice.

Every October for the past 40+ years I evaluate my last cycling season and come up with a plan for the next year. I came off of several surgeries the last few years so I need to work on my areas of weakness.

November I enjoy riding every chance I get even at night with a light. Once the snow fly's and the roads are icy I'm inside. Often I ride easy to the gym and do some heavy strength training. I will core train, do balance work, and a spinning class twice a week. This is a fun time to wind down after the season.

December, a little spinning, increase intensity with strength work. Better cut calories or pack on the weight.

January, lots of flexibility work, functional fitness, corework, spinning, weight training and lower body strength focus on all smaller muscle groups, Isolated Leg training indoors, Spin scan on the computrainer. Keep HR in lower zones max 80%, usually 60 to 70% 5 to 6 weeks. Serious calorie cutting here and should get me to my goal weight.

February 2nd week to Mid March! I crank up the aerobic and power interval work. Short duration and high intensity. By the end of the 6 week period I'm racing the little man on the computrainer at pretty high watts but keep duration to under 45 minutes. Keep up with the Flexibility and Corework. Strength training focus will be on higher reps, lower weight, and more sets. I will try to get in 2 hours a week of rollers by the end of this 6 week period. I will do about 10-12 hours of aerobics a week max. Not all on the bike. HR will be at the 70% or less with some intervals up to 95% (10%). No calorie cutting but want to maintain (+/- 2 lbs) and eat accordingly.

Mid March-May, should be on the road by then doing base miles is easy gears. Target in the gym will be on Flexibility, Corework, lower body high reps with 1 sec concentric motion, 2 sec isometric, and 4 second eccentric motion, a killer. Upper body, low reps 8-10, 2 to 3 sets and dumbbells on BOSU for balance. This is my last 6 week cycle to cut calories before the peak cycling season. I try never to bonk and might want to get down South for a week of base miles in nice weather.

May-June, Back off on the strength training at the gym, keep up the corework and flexibility and use the gym as recovery. The aerobic work on the bike intensity goes up. I try walking an easy 2 to 3 miles to get loose most mornings. I will start doing intense intervals and climbing. I burn more calories and will increase intake to maintain my weight. During this period you can lose a lot of weight and suffer for the season. The same thing can happen end of November-December as you must cut back on food or you gain a lot of weight.

June to October, enjoy riding and don't forget the gym. This should be my best year since 2005 and all the past appointments with the bone saw.

Tools, bikes can be complex, but look easy. You have to be careful and can break component if you over tighten, note the torque specs. Keep it clean and adjusted. You will learn by reading or taking a class. The Local Bike Shops and Bike Clubs often offer classes. You will learn.

Sorry, for the long version. It's Christmas and I'm going to get on the trainer now that I'm motivated.

Thanks for asking!

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DDOORN's Photo DDOORN Posts: 23,640
12/25/10 11:11 A

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Spare wheel's a great idea...even "all-thumbs" me can swap wheels easily.

Don

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12/25/10 10:58 A

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so wait does everyone here have spare wheels too? I have a bike and a piece of crap bike tool that cost me 15 dollars and I can barely get a grip on it but it was something until i can afford one of the specialized kits. sounds like this is going to be a much larger investment then I had counted on.

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No tools required to swap the wheels....
Get the trainer tire mounted on the "spare" wheel. Then all you need to do release the quick release, and swap them. No need to adjust the brakes as you don't need them on the trainer.
Make sure the spare wheel has the same number of speeds/cogs as the primary wheel so shifting is easy. the gear ratio/number of cogs doesn't have to match, just the spacing, so you can shift smoothly.

Check reviews on the rim mounted trainers before deciding.
Get the hang of changing tires, it really is easy, it just ain't no big thing. I suggest a general bike maintenance book. They are just bikes, not aircraft, and pretty easy to maintain.

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12/25/10 10:49 A

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hmm so I'm looking at rim trainers online and I guess my only question is what holds the tire off the ground. They don't look any taller than the normal roller style and obviously if the tire touches the ground that's bad for the not moving effort.

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DRC2205's Photo DRC2205 Posts: 8,845
12/25/10 10:30 A

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Changing the tire isn't that much more involved--same tools and techniques, just a little more effort.

And yes, a rim trainer would work great for a mountain bike. I don't know how many options there are out there, though.

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12/25/10 10:16 A

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yea changing the tube isn't a big deal but I was under the impression that changing the sneaker itself was a bit more involved. I'll have to look into the rim trainer as well, will they work with a mountain bike?

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DDOORN's Photo DDOORN Posts: 23,640
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Agreed, re: changing a flat...just had my 1st lesson this fall from a fellow member of our bike club.

Here's a lesson:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5K-DXt9djA

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I also have my cycle computer set on my bake tire, Great tool and well worth the money!!



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DRC2205's Photo DRC2205 Posts: 8,845
12/25/10 9:36 A

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BTW, you should learn how to change a tire, if you don't already. It can be a *very* important skill if you are riding outside.

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12/25/10 9:35 A

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I have a Minoura Rim Trainer (magnetic). The "rim" part addresses the tire issue, as it creates friction on the rim of the tire instead of the tire itself, so there is no wear to the tire. It is also very quiet, because the metal is so smooth.

Trainers are a great tool, and come in so many price ranges. I have my cycle computer set up on the rear wheel so I can get my speed, etc while inside without investing in the computrainer stuff.

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ok so the likelihood is that I wouldn't yank the rear wheel off this bike to throw new tires on unless I absolutely had too. I've kind of put off buying a decent bike tool until I got more serious about it and more experienced. Is there anything I can use for training that isn't going to wear down tires like this?

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12/25/10 6:32 A

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Jon,
I suggest waiting for comments from others to gather more information before choosing.
- Get a trainer specific tire or a smooth road tire. The knobbies will wear quickly and make a LOT of noise.
- Buy a cheap or used rear wheel for your bike that can be used on the trainer. That way when the weather permits, you swap your good wheel back on and ride outside. Weather is bad, put the trainer wheel on. More fun, no excuses......
- Put the trainer in front of the TV. Pretty boring stuff without something to pass the time. There are a lot of training videos available. I use those and some travel type videos that allow you to ride through the countryside and whatever country or city you like.

I have a magnetic trainer and have heard that fluid trainers are better. Mine allows me to adjust the tension while riding. I like that.

Bob

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12/24/10 10:05 P

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sounds like a great endorsement to me, how much did you spend on it?

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I have a road bike and I haven't noticed anything on the tire yet.. If I do I'll just buy another tire, I get a fantastic workout on my trainer..



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12/24/10 9:47 P

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Have you been having issues with your tires? I hadn't seen anything about this but I have to admit I haven't done much homework I saw it as more of a means to an end I guess. Fortunately the bike shop I go to always has sales and usually I can pick up 3 tires for 10 dollars of the extra thick more road friendly mountain tires by specialized.

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Been researching these as well and can only speak from that and a smidgen of real experience having used my son's fluid CycleOps trainer once:

Kurt Kinetic Fluid-Based Road Trainer appears to be the best. Fluid as opposed to magnetic are supposed to be quieter, however I can tell you that my son's fluid CycleOps was still pretty loud.

Another factor I've read is that trainers can chew up your tires pretty fast and that there are tires specifically designed for trainers in that they are tougher and smoother so they don't make as much noise when using the trainer.

Still haven't gotten myself one and not totally sold on the idea yet...

Don

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Happy holidays and Merry Christmas... I have the blackburn and have just completed 150 miles on it over the past few weeks... For me and the price it works fine... Have the LBS show you both and try each of them at the bike shop, That's the best way of knowing what feels the best for you



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I got a specialized hardrock last summer and rode it a few times but got pretty beat up by the heat and being completely out of shape so this winter I'm going to invest in an indoor trainer I should be able to get one by next week which gives me all winter to build up more muscle stamina for the spring and summer as well as giving me the opportunity to work out during the cold months without driving 15 miles to the gym. My preferred bike shop sells cyclops and blackburn indoor trainers of which I can get every single model produced by them that will fit a 26" wheel what i'm wondering is if people have any experience with either one which ones they like better and why

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