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12/21/06 5:03 P

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Thanks everybody for the props on the review. In the end I decided not to buy the ADEO right now. It is a company I'll keep an eye on when I decide to make that jump to GPS technology. They are small right now and if they survive will continue to improve upon the device. For now I'm happy with my set of gadgets. I'll be replacing some of my equipment in the spring, so I need to save my pennies!

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12/15/06 11:08 A

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From the BIM site:
BMI Software now on over 20 Mobil Phones:

Verizon
Motorola KRZR, RAZR V3m and V3c, V325 and V35i
Samsung A930 A990
LG 8300, 8500 (Chocolate) 9800 (V)

Sprint
Motorola KRZR, RAZR V3m
Samsung A930
Sanyo 660 (Katana) 7500, 8400, 9000

Nextel
Motorola i760, i850, i860,i870


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12/15/06 10:37 A

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I donít why I got that Twilight-Zone like recording when I used BIM for walking. All of the cycling readings have been fine. Iíll contact the BIM helpdesk and see what they have to say. I did notice that the phone took some time acquiring a signal when we started walking.

BTW: Adam, nice review

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12/15/06 10:16 A

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Kellie, very impressive walk. I don't think I could keep up with you! Did you go back to figure out where the BIM, um, messed up?

Adam, thanks for the report on the GPS. I think I am going to rely on my cyclocomputer a little longer, and maybe try the BIM is they ever start to work with Cingular.

Anyone else have experiences with the BIM to share?

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12/15/06 8:25 A

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That makes the discrepancies I was seeing in the GPS device I was trying out quite acceptable. emoticon

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12/15/06 1:24 A

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DANG KELLIE! I thought I was getting faster, but you put the ka-bosh on that! Whoa... :-D I plan to use my GPS as a backup info source, but will likely trust my cyclo-computer and foot pod over the GPS. :-) Thanks for your speed walking stats! :-)

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12/14/06 5:23 P

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I tried the BIM for a lunchtime walk I take with my girlfriend. The results were very interesting:
Distance Ė 271.34 miles
Duration Ė 30:54
Speed Ė 526.8 MPH



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12/12/06 11:26 P

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I've had a few days to play with the ADEO and decided to do a write up on my blog at abiker.blogspot.com. Thanks to skigeek for giving me a little perspective on GPS capabilities.

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12/8/06 11:41 A

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I was shocked, too. It's hard to change carriers, though. I have been with Cingular since 1992 (well, they were called Cell One back then...) I put a request in with BiM,and we'll see if that changes.

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12/7/06 4:29 P

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DCR2205:

Cingular doesnít support BIM?!?!?!? Maybe itís time to change carriers. We need to have cutting edge suppliers to support all of our toys! ;-D
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12/7/06 2:19 P

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Can't wait to hear how the new contender fared!

Also, I checked out the BiMActive, and Cingular doesn't support it yet... :(

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12/7/06 11:45 A

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I've been looking at GPS options lately, and found a new contender. It's the Motion Lingo Adeo. Check it out at www.motionlingo.com. It's a little different than other gps units I've seen. One of the owners of a local bike shop is going to let me borrow his, so I'll report back with more info soon.

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11/30/06 4:37 A

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I always carry mine too, which is why I started looking into it. I actually didn't expect my phone to be GPS enabled either, but was pleasantly surprised. emoticon

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11/25/06 3:52 P

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Now I can't wait to find out if my phone is GPS enabled. Unfortunattely, I am guessing not, but at least I know what feature to look for on my next phone. After all, I carry it with me on all my rides and walks.

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11/24/06 11:41 P

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Lackhand:
Thanks for the tip about bimactive.com. I checked it out and was interested enough to sign-up. I tried it Thanksgiving morning on a short ride. What FUN! It was easy. I turned on my phone, selected bmi then put it in my back rack outer pocket. My computer told me how fast I was going while riding but the bim told me the real dope! How fast, average, actual for each mile, map of routes, elevation map, etc. What a kick. More data than I will EVERY need or want and all for $9.99 a month. BTW bmi stands for bones in motion and you can track your walks, jogs and bike rides as long as your phone is gps enabled. Great tip! Fun gadget!


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Boyfriend has a Garmin.. very handy, he swaps it between his road and mtn bike. He uses it quite a bit, I haven't messed with it much, so am unsure about it. Though I am considering asking for one for Christmas. LOL

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11/23/06 2:56 P

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And Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

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11/23/06 2:56 P

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Thanks everyone for the information. I don't usually venture too far off known roads on the bike, and it might be aout of my price range based on the use I'd get from it. I'll check out that website you mentioned Lackhand, and see if my phone's compatible. I have to reread all the posts--figure out everything I want vs. need!

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11/22/06 4:00 P

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Another interesting option that I recently tried is your cell phone. If you have a phone with assisted GPS, you can download a program called Bones in Motion at http://bimactive.com that will allow you to track your route, and has really easy software through their website and on your phone to track your route with Google maps plus show your elevation, speed, etc.

It's designed to work for runners, cyclists, walkers, hikers, skiers, etc. and seems to work pretty well. I happened to already have a compatible phone, so there was no cost there. It DOES cost $9.99 per month to use the program on your phone, although the website is free. For me, this is far more feasible than buying an expensive GPS unit (I am a poor college student after all).

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11/22/06 1:50 P

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DRC:

Garmin and Magellin GPS's are the ones that I am familiar with.

When I was stationed in Japan, the ship I was stationed on visited a lot of ports in Asia. There were about 10 of us that took our bikes on the deployments and rode them when we were in port.

I went out riding alone in Singapore and got lost. I eventually found my way back, but it was a very long day. The next day I went out with a friend that had a GPS mounted to his handle bars. It worked SLICK!!! We rode all over the place and we always knew which way it was back to the ship. After that ride I went out and bought a Garmin 210. I bought a bracket that mounted it to the handle bars. You will probably have to buy a seperate mounting bracket to mount the GPS to your handle bars.

Mine did not have roads and any geographic features like lakes, streams and mountains. All it did was tell me where I started and gave me a trail where I had gone. I used it to make sure that I could find my way back to the boat.

My GPS has the capability to plot a route. It works very well for biking. Recently I used it with Google Earth. I ploted the lat and longs of my route on Google Earth, then program the GPS with that route. It works very slick and overcomes that lack of street information. My GPS does warn you when you are approaching a turn point. I imagine that Google Earth would work well to plot a mountain bike route also.

You can buy a GPS with a street/map data base, if you mountain bike I think you can buy a GPS with terrain info. You will pay some significant $$$ for those features. If you buy a simple GPS that allows you to track where you have been, place way points and build routes I think you can get those pretty cheap.

Oh by the way, I have taken my GPS flying. It has a max speed of 999 mph. I programmed the lat and long of the destination airport. You have to sit in a window seat and hold it up against the glass but it will tell you if you are headed the right direction. It helps pass the time on a boring flight and avoid the bad airline food.

hope that is helpful

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11/22/06 10:39 A

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You can pick up the Garmin on eBay at a reduced price. Iíve been doing my homework!
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Hey DRC2205,

My husband and I have a Garmin Forerunner 101. It is really for hiking, so it tends to tell you to turn too late until you get used to it. It also wrist mounts, but we have put it on the handle bars. We also loaded a hack program to download the data. Somewhere in Gadgets and Gizmos I posted this. . .

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/episo
de/view.mb?episodePk.pkValue=1206386

If you look at the Gadgets and Gizmos thread you can find more info, but sifting through it may be tough.

If you want a truly dedicated cycling GPS, the Garmin Edge 305 has a cycling computer and HRM built in. It is really expensive. (see www.garmin.com)

They are different from car GPSs in that they don't (at least not the 101 and 202) show roads, they just show the path you are on and where you came from. You can program in GPS coords to map a route you plan to ride. Then you can download the data. On the 305, you can then compare speed, elevation, cadence, heart rate, time and get really obsessive about it.

Okay, now I have rambled, so, I will let you ask questions.

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11/21/06 2:43 P

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So who can tell me about GPS products for cycling? How are they similar/different from the ones for cars? Do they just track your route and help you get home, or do they show roadways and and plan? What are some sugestions of good ones? How do they mount, or do you wear them?

I'm sure I'll have more questions, but that's a start...

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