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7/14/10 1:50 P

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Love the idea of an air horn and the whistle ...anything to startle them enough to bring them out of the 'chase' mentality.

I live in the city limits, so no issues yet...dogs have to be kept in a fenced in area and aren't allowed to roam. When I hit the country roads it's a whole different story. Water has worked well in the past. I've been lucky not to have had to dance with many dogs.

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I was almost taken out by a dog on my commute yesterday. I was going pretty fast and was surprised by a dog coming into the street from the side. I slowed down because I expected him to run in front of me, but instead he side-swiped me. He glanced off my lower leg and rear tire. I had to speed up to outrun him.

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7/7/10 3:11 P

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All the usual problem dogs have lately been kept up by the owners. However, there is a new dog on my favorite route. He is a beautiful 90 pound puppy, who really wants to play. Next time I ride down that road, I will stop and ask the owners to keep him up. He really seems like a nice dog. I'd hate for something to happen to him. And I don't want him causing a crash for me.

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When walking my dogs and stray dogs wander towards us I yell "GO HOME" and either they comply or it wakes up the dog owner to control their dog/s.

One my favorite bike trail the dogs all are on leashes but on the remote part there are rattlesnakes (I have personally seen them three times) and heard of sighting from other bikers. I would rather deal with a dog.

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6/10/10 7:01 A

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My normal route is the same one I use when I run, well when I am on the bike this innocent looking coon hound came after me so I gave her a shot of pepper spray and she has never bothered me again. I love dogs and hate to do this but I had no choice.
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6/9/10 8:51 P

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I love it when the owners are right there, and yell out "He won't hurt you" when their dog is seriously after the bike. They don't realize that the dog doesn't have to be mean to cause real problems, like a wreck. Cyclist and dogs can both be hurt.

I am happy to say that all the usual problem dogs on my routes are now being kept up. There are a lot of cyclist in my area, so I assume someone notified the owners.

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My strategy has always been first to yell, then if I can't out run them I stop and get off my bike and tell them to go home and walk off till I get past their property LOL. If you are good at reading dogs you can pretty much tell are they just out for a chase or are they really out to get your bike or you. Most dogs are just into chasing and the bike brings out their natural prey drive. I've heard an air horn works great. You mount it right to the handlebars. If a dog is close enough that I could successfully use pepper spray he would probably get in a bite first or knock me over.
I am always cautious when riding a strange route I try to stay in neighborhoods that I know well and steer clear of streets where I know dogs to be a problem. If I had to go down a street where a dog continually was a problem then I wouldn't hesitate to call animal control.

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6/9/10 4:49 P

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I deal with this occassionally; but the last time I wished I would have had some pepper spray. We were in a paceline of 5 and I was at the end. I noticed the guys raising up and slowing down and veering out left and i did the same to find a dog coming out. Here is the kicker....the owners were right there and not controlling the dog. I yelled out them to control their dog or we could have hit him. Now the Pepper spray I wished I would have had would not been used on the dog. instead i would have sprayed both owners right there for being stupid .... it wasn't the dog's fault

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Man I deal with this all the time. I live in rural east Arkansas, so pretty much every dog is loose, including all the dogs that a local town released from the animal shelter when they shut it down.

I've carried a frame pump with me, but my experience has been that if you can sustain about 16-18 mph past the dog, usually it just gives up after about 50 yards of chase. Also, it helps a lot, if you know where the dog is, to move to the opposite side of the road so it can't get an angle on you. DON'T DO THIS on windy roads - all my roads are straight through farms, so I can get away with it.

Yelling is key. I read somewhere to make the dog think you are crazier than it is. I have definitely done that a couple times!

I'm a major dog lover, so pepper spray isn't going to be an option until there is a real close call, which I haven't had yet.

Finally, if you look on the bright side, dogs are a great way to work on your sprints.

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First off, I love dogs. But...when I'm on my bike and a dog comes after me the man/dog relationship shifts from one of mutual respect to that of prey and predator. My first response is to bark/yell/make noise. 99% of the time, that does the trick. The next response is pepper spray (usually carry it, never have had to use it), kicking (only once or twice when surprised) or swing a frame pump (the dog had bitten my heel earlier in the day and if I could've not gone by it on my way home I would have).

You want to keep the dog as far off as you can. The closer a dog gets, the easier it is for it to cause a crash and serious injuries. A dog doesn't have to bite you to cause harm. Jumping on you, darting in front of your bike, and running into the bike are some of the ways a dog can injure you and quite possibly itself.

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5/6/10 10:28 P

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My hubby when he was young. He was riding & this dog was trying to attack him. So, he threw down his bike, picked up the bike & started chasing the dog w/ it. However he wouldn't recommend this. Good luck

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5/6/10 9:40 A

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My usual route of running has several dogs, never been bothered before until I was on my bike a coonhound came after me all I had was my pepper spray so I got her, I hate to do this because I love dogs and what if the kids touch her and get that stuff on them but I had no choice. I am going to check out some of the suggestions here.
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I had to smile when I read dogs and bikes don't go together. We haven't had to deal with any loose dogs ourselves I think because we ride in the parks. However, we do have a loose dog with us. I need to get a photo of our 'pack' travelling together. Hubby with 100lb Scout one side of his bike and his brother 100lb Waya on the other on leash, then Kasey our little Cocker Spaniel just running free because bless her little legs she can't keep up any other way. We will have to get a seat for her when we start travelling further or riding faster than we do now.



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Makkaio, thanks for the website. It's now on my favorites.

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5/5/10 10:54 P

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Problem is...we never know what we are dealing with when a dog comes at us. We don't know their motivation. But a lot of the time, we have to learn to not take it so personally and stay calm. A lot of the time, the dog isn't even after "us" they are after the bike. Mostly because they don't understand it.

About.com has a good list of things to do: bicycling.about.com/od/howtoride/tp/
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Watch the dog's eyes. Are they focused on you or are they focused on the bike? I've only had a couple encounters out of many where the dog(s) were actually focused on me instead of the bike.

Out of all the different, and good, ideas on here already. The one thing I would add is that you don't panic. You don't react well when you do. You could end up making a choice that gets you hurt in a situation where injury could have been avoided.

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5/5/10 7:07 P

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I've been attacked and bitten. Other large dogs have come out and ran along with me as I pedaled like crazy.

You just never know what a dog is going to do. I hesitate using pepper spray because the moment I do the wind will carry it right back into MY face. haha My luck!

Squirting from the water bottle is the way I was taught. But the dog always seems quicker. I've growled at them, been successful in outrunning them. I've nice talked them, "Hey Boy!" Sometimes you just feel like shouting out to the neighborhood: "Keep your dang dogs tied up!"

I guess what it comes down to is each individual situation knowing there are no guarantees.

Just last night, I go by one spot in the neighborhood where there are a couple large dogs who just sit and watch. One took out last night, but to run across the street to check out another dog.

A couple of nights ago there was a little yip yip who stayed in the yard. I figured there was an "invisible fence".

Whatever dogs and biking don't seem to go together.

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5/5/10 5:31 P

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I like the idea of the Dazer and the whistle better than the pepper spray. I'll definitely get one or the other. I have used my water bottle. It kept him back, but he still chased. Hoping for an opportunity to get me, I guess.
I am also a dog lover. The first time my dog ever looked at a cyclist, I told him a firm no. He doesn't pay any attention to them.
Of course, for his health and safety, he is always kept up or leashed.

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5/5/10 3:28 P

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Good advice re the water bottle. I've just yelled and sped up, but it is always freaky.

A more and more common problem I'm running into is people with their dogs on long leashes on shared paths. I am a dog lover, but people need to keep their dogs under control. When I'm coming up on someone who has a dog on a long leash from behind I never know how the dog is going to react - if I call out or ring my bell are they going to be scared and lunge for me? Very frustrating.

A friend was telling me that he was riding at night (with lights) down a road which is a designated bike route. He saw a person on the sidewalk to his right and a dog to his left on the sidewalk. He didn't think anything of it...until he hit the leash. The dog and the person were both dragged and the person's hand was cut fairly badly from the leash. Luckily, my friend was OK and I think the dog was OK.

What kind of an idiot 'walks' their dog by allowing the dog such a long leash that they're on the other side of the street? What if it had been a car? I guess they figured they would have been able to respond to a car quickly?? Bizarre.

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5/5/10 11:02 A

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Good advice re water bottle. I ride in the suburbs a lot and this is becoming an increasing problem. I'm happy to see more people out walking their dogs, but for goodness sake, put a leash on the thing!

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Such a shame about the dog being put down. There really are no bad dogs - just really bad owners and the dog pays the price.

You can carry something called a Dazer II ( www.dazerii.com/ ). This works with keeping most dogs away. It emits a high frequency sound that humans can't hear, but dogs, cats, and many other animals can, and they don't like it.

Water in the face works pretty well, too.

Many times if I see a dog while riding or running I will STOP, and walk by relaxed and as if I own the place. I don't talk to it, I don't look it in the eye, I simply by walk slowly and keep an eye it. You can use the bike to act as a barrier between you and the dog.

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5/5/10 9:04 A

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I have been chased and bitten while riding my bike. I could see the offending mutt up the road and decided to turn around about 1/2 km BEFORE... apparently, it was an invitation to chase me, and try to bite me (got my hand and my ankle) before I could speed up and get far away.

I think there is some good advice here though... pepper spray, extra water bottles and using your bike as protection. And call the animal control when you are safely away. I have one more to add... I have a runner's distress whistle on my jacket. I plan on getting one more just for my bike. They are small, lightweight and EFFECTIVE. It freaked the last dog out and he completely stopped cold. Nice!

Make sure you tell someone where you ride and report those dogs. A good friend got knocked off her bike down an bridge embankment and the dog got in a couple of good bites before she could get help. She was considering jumping into the water and swimming to the other side when the owners of said nasty dog arrived. It was not the dog's first offense... I believe it had to be put down. I don't like to hear that but frankly, as a dog owner, I don't want my pet to bite anyone especially a fellow biker or runner! Stay safe, have fun.

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My first encounter was with 2 dogs while I had my son, age 2 on the back of my bike and my daughter, age 9 on hers alongside. All we could do was yell and speed up. I hated it, being so vulnerable. I had pepper spray, but all that did was piss them off! And burn my knee everytime I pedaled! LOL

2nd time I had to run a stop sign to get away, now I mostly only go on state park trails. We have a major dog problem here.

Running too, couple of months ago I had a pack get into that stalking stance, so I picked up a huge stick and said "Bring It", I think they figured I meant it and we just squared off, eye to eye, I got away.

Good luck! There is a product made just for fending off dogs - it's citrus based, they hate it. Check your local animal shelter, they may have some ideas too. And if you have it, call animal control EVERY time!

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5/4/10 11:21 P

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Yelling does work with most dogs. "No" or "stay" and sometimes "bad dog."
There are some that don't stop when you yell, and I'm not sure I could hit a dog with pepper spray while I'm moving.
It's a good suggestion, tho. I'll try it.
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Some of my biggest scares came from dogs that just want to play. An 80 pound Labrador Retriever jumping up like he wants to get in your lap is frightening, especially if you didn't see him till he was right there.


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Some folks carry mace or some sort of repellent. I have ridden in many a rural area with many an angry loose gonna eat ya dogs... I've kicked a few, I've gone nose to nose and barked at them, yelling works, and I've gotten a really good aim with my water bottles. Water to the eyes is a shocker.. I like that better than mace and all that. I like dogs. Just don't love loose ones. Sometimes I've just picked up speed to avoid them or I've played chicken with them. Never have hurt one. I'm a sap for animals. Have my own.

One time though was spooky. Two surprised me, both aggressive.. one came from the front, one was after me from the bike, I actually got off my bike and started swinging my beloved road bike at them. Eventually they gave up. That was the only truely spooky encounter.

Sorry for the ramble!

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I've found that yelling very loudly to go away if they begin showing interest will usually deter them, and when not, pepper spray takes care of those others.

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How do you deal with dogs running loose when you ride, especially those in the country? Where I live most people keep their dogs up in town, but in the rural areas, where I like to ride, you see some loose dogs. There have been a few times that a dog, or dogs, was a serious problem.

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