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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
10/29/09 10:32 A

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Let me get this right .... I should try to get to 170 lbs at the expense of losing over 2 lbs of lean weight and leaving me at 0 fat weight which is 0% fat.

Is this truly a viable goal I want to try to obtain and obesess myself over?

I think I will truly concentrate on the training plan I have developed this year and see where my weight takes me and yes I will continually use the scale that I was introduced to as a measuring device for calculating any successes.

I think we are too hung up weight as a measuring stick when we should really concentrate on what our fat % is instead. Having a 10% fat ratio based on current lean mass and bone weight this would put me at 198 lbs.

Again, I'll adhere to the training plan and the nutrition to go with it and we will see where it takes me.

I have gained since Mar 2007 20 lbs back on me ironically my lean mass back then was 152 lbs. So you have to question yourself was my weight gain a good thing or a bad thing? I would have to say good

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HMSPAIN's Photo HMSPAIN Posts: 45
10/29/09 10:08 A

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A wise woman once said that 50% of doctors graduate at the lower 50% of their class. Trust your own body to tell you what is good for it :-). I'm not against getting a doctor's advice; but then I consider it carefully, and consider if the advice is worth following.

Harrison Spain
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
10/29/09 9:49 A

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Well

I talked with the Dr. and no he does not want me at 170 lbs or even trying to get to 180 lbs.. He would like for me to shoot for 190 lbs.

He agreed that the scale probably has its flaws but not a bad base to be using.

If my lean mass (muscle) is at 172 lbs well naturally you do not want to give up muscle mass to hit 172. The bone weight of 8 lbs puts your weight at 180 lbs and that is with your fat % at 0%.

If the fat % of 19.6% is the measurement he recommends me to lower this to 15% and see where I am at weight wise.

He seems to think that 190 lbs will be my best fit and healthy weight.

He also agreed that the true measure of fat % is the dunk water test but I am not a candidate to have this done ....... I'm not overly obese or have health issues because of my weight to have insurance to pay for the test. No, I will not pay for the test out of pocket.

I will change my goal to 190 lbs and see where i am at. If I think I can lose more without losing a lot of lean/muscle mass i will lose more.

I think I will be concentrating on that fat % and try to lose the fat lbs first

Jim

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10/26/09 10:13 A

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What HMSPAIN said, +1 million. Where do your #s come from?

Small steps first. Get down under 200lbs. See how you feel. Then 190. See how you feel. You'll know when you hit your ideal weight.

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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
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Specificity, specificity, specificity.
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The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
10/26/09 8:04 A

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I'm not going to stop trying to lose weight but at the same time I'm not going to want to lose what muscle mass I have built up already.

So if I have 172 lbs of muscle mass and 8 lbs of bone mass then the lightest I can go is 180 lbs with 0 lbs of fat. Which would mean 0% in fat and I do not see myself being at 0%.

So my goal of 170 lbs is unreasonable and realistically so would 180 lbs.

I guess when my Dr told me last year at my physical he wanted me to shoot for 190 lbs and stay there now I think I know what he meant.

I will be talking over the results with him at my next appointment this week as well.

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10/25/09 6:49 P

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No need to change and bump the number up.

I started at 205. Do lots of cardio and weight training. I found that I was building muscle, not losing weight...BUT, the inches were falling right off of me...THEN, the weight started to go down too.

I put my ultimate goal weight at 135. I'm at around 165 now. I look a whole lot better than I started (of course) and still would like to lose more poundage.
As I continue to lose, I will see how I look as the weight goes down...if I keep looking healthy, then I'll maintain whatever weight number I'm at.
If I make the ultimate goal, fine, and if not, so be it....but I'm sure going to try hard to get there!!

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10/25/09 6:34 P

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You are relying an awful lot that the 172.5 number is accurate. I would not trust the number (I'm an engineer and tend to doubt numbers, especially when they come with a decimal point).

Think back to when you were the same height but weighed less; there is no reason you could not take your body weight back to that number.

Harrison Spain
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
10/25/09 6:18 P

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Hi All

Over the week end I found I will have to change my weight goal. Currently I have it at 170 lbs but over the week end I found that my muscle mass is at 172.5.

Thus, if I would reach my goal, I would have to lose 2.5 lbs of muscle. I'm at 225 lbs now

So I may have to change my weight goal to 185 lbs now.

What do others feel?????

My body fat is at a little over 19%. This was not determine through a water dunking but I will be using the same method. This was done on a scale. My water in my body was at 59.5%; it said my age is that of a 31 year old not bad for a 48 year old;-)

I will be doing strength training and cardio. I will be changing my diet again to be more healthier than in the past. I will also be concentrating on my core to get rid of or tone the gut area. I will be doing upper body ST as well be only to the level of toning the muscles.

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