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I have a Cannondale CAAD5 frame from 2002, 63cm USA edition. 105 double set up with an XTR rear derailleur (odd I know, but I run wider ratio rear gearing than most). Best investment on the bike? A Brooks B17 saddle, smooth like buttah after it's broken in. Yes, I would buy it again in a minute!

Mountain bike is a Schwinn Rocket full suspension also from a few years ago, with a Marzocchi MXR fork and Deore XT all around. It's good, now that I've put some higher grade stuff on it.

Have a couple of old mid seventies Peugeot PX-10's that I modernized with 8 speed indexing Shimano stuff and bar end shifters. The work beautifully and have lovely Reynolds 531 steel frames with hand brazed lugs... oh yeah, they were both given to me... the rest of the project was fun to learn about

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Love the new baby, John And craigslist is a good idea if you can tell what fits *you*--so many of the sellers don't have a clue...

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Nancy- did your bike from craigs list fit you ok?
I found sizing was a problem on the list.

I still want to buy a bike for the trails,
too rough for my road baby.

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My first bike, four years ago, was a Giant Sedona ST. I just dropped it off to a friend Saturday so she can start riding. My second year of biking I wanted a road bike. I have a 2006 Trek 1000 WSD. LOVE IT. This year I found a Fuji Absolute on Craigslist so I bought that too. I bought the Fuji for short trips from home but have yet to use if for that. I use it on the limestone trail at the park.

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Oh sorry if you click on my spark page I wrote the name under photo

Argon 18

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John

My vision is not that good in my old age;-) What bike did you end up with finally?

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Photo of Me riding my new bike. I thought I should follow up after all the help and advice I received on here. This is a great team.

I feel free ! I havent owned a bike since I was 18

and its a reward for loosing my 55pounds.

I live in area with deep hills and its not a problem
Either this bike is awesome or I really built my cardio & leg strength by running the past 7 months

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Thank you Wongerchi I learned so much from you re: bikes & cycling in a short time, much appreciated

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CycloSPORTIVE and CycloCROSS are two different animals. Just because they have "Cyclo..." in front of them does not make them the same! Think of cyclocross as the cycling version of a 10k - a cyclosportive is the cycling equivalent of a marathon.

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclosportive

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Wongerchi I googled my bike and I didnt realize its a cyclocross because its light weight and fast with thin wheels the cyclo ones I tried at another store had thicker bulkier tires

Argon 18 Plutonium
The Plutonium was conceived with keen cyclosportive riders in mind. Comfortable and a snappy performer, it’s at home on any road or bike path. Refined esthetics, balanced design, it’s an Argon 18 through and through.

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just as I thought

$1599 plus tax plus front & back light plus helmet
plus plus plus

close to $2000. altogether

why did I go overboard for my first bike?

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John:
How much did you pay for the bike? If it were mine it'd live in the apartment with me. In terms of locks, get two - a U-lock and a cable lock. Take off the front wheel and seatpost if it has a QR and thread the U-lock through the wheels and frame. Then run the cable lock around the bike. You want the smallest U-lock possible so that there's no room for a pair of bolt cutters.

Bike computer won't foul the 305, don't worry about it.

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I paid for one year bike spot in my building and still took it inside its in my den

What lock do you recommend?

I wonder if the bike computer i bought on the bike will interfere with the forerunner 305 reading

I just wanted a permanent fixture on there to see how many miles the bike does from day one

J

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Hi Wongerchi..the store cyclemotion close at 7pm we were there till 9pm doing my fitting I was raining this morning, and was getting late for work, have my running gear in bag meeting group at the running room after work for a run looks like i will wait until tomorrow or if its not too dark I will ride it around the condo grounds after our 10K run

I'm going to be one lean machine....

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I have a Diamondback Peak, its a mountain recreation bike but I ride it mostly on the road. Its a little heavy but the extra weight gives me a good work out. I really like my bike, the only thing I changed was the grips. I would buy it again, its a good bike.

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So.......

How's the bike, John? Did you get out before the rain?

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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
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YAY! New bike home!

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I did it ! I just took home my new baby ! cant wait to go for a ride in the morning before work


Thanks for everyones advice and help Im now a cycler and a proud new bike owner.

I Love my new Bike
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"Fitness also influences comfort another way. As we get stronger we support more of our weight by our legs and less on our saddle."

I think that's what I was trying to say below ... I guess I didn't make it clear.

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There are a lot of tradeoffs in bike fit. In general people are more comfortable when they sit more upright. To a certain extent raising the handlebars improves comfort. A problem is that the more upright one sits the more weight is placed on their butt and less their arms. As a cyclist gets fitter the most comforable handlebar position changes. When I raced I was perfectly comfortable with my handlebars being 4" below my seat. Now 1" below my seat is about right. As I get fitter and more flexible I may move closer to my old position. With the higher handlebars I certainly have more pain in the butt.

Fitness also influences comfort another way. As we get stronger we support more of our weight by our legs and less on our saddle. The fitter we get the more we use the saddle to stabalize the bike rather than to support us. A novice cyclist rests nearly all of their weight on their saddle.

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Wongerchi - Yeah, we do take breaks quite a bit right now because of the undue pressure on bits ;) The new saddle hasn't gotten here yet, but I'll tell him about saddle tilt, etc. He showed me the one he ordered at the LBS this past weekend and it is very firm as opposed to plush. I was surprised, but he did explain the same concept that you did. It's something that's difficult for me to identify with, obviously.

When you say you moved your cleats back - do you mean where your shoes attach to your pedals?




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FREECLOUD:
Some thoughts about numbness on long rides - is he getting up out the saddle every so often to relieve the pressure? Also check saddle tilt (nose may be slightly up) or get a new saddle. I like the ones with a cutout but it's personal choice (I have one with a cutout and one without). For a new saddle, make sure it's not plush - if you're going to err, go for too firm. The problem with a plush soft saddle is that you end up sinking into it and putting undue pressure on bits that shouldn't have undue pressure on them!

Changing hand position on rides is a good thing. Also getting up and standing every so often too, all these things just shake it up a little bit. My fit's pretty spot on for me but I move my hands around - 90% of the time I'm on the hoods so that's where I'm fitted best, but I go to the tops and drops just for a bit of a change.

If you get fitted well, nothing should hurt. OK, apart from your quads, etc. There should be no knee pain, back pain, hand numbness etc. Even the slightest thing can help - I get hand numbness because my handlebars are a touch low. To solve it, all I did was rotate the bars up a couple of degrees and it made all the difference. I moved my cleats back 1cm and it made a big difference.

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Yes it is, you'll get plenty of good info here! I get a lot of hand numbness, which just reminds me to keep those elbows bent and change up positions now and then on the handlebars. I also wear the nice cushy gloves with gel. They do help a lot.

Initially, the numbness was why I got the other bike. It put me in a more upright position, taking the pressure off my upper body. At the time I was a part time loader with UPS, a massage therapist in the afternoon, and I rode my bike everywhere...the upper body was taking a beating. So I needed a different bike.

Now I have both bikes....one to relax on and one to rip down the road on. The relaxing one will also tear up the trail with speed, but it's much heavier and to be honest I hate lugging it up 3 flights of stairs to my apartment. My dream is to one day have a real house, with a garage, that I can just ride right into.....

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WoW ! all this information is like a crash course in the world of cycling

thanks for all the info

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In addition to a basic proper bike fit, it has been my experience that discomfort on the bike is closely related to two other issues: core fitness and cadence.

When I am in good shape, I commonly maintain a cadence of about 90-95 rpm. At that cadence, I have the feeling of the weight of my upper body being supported by my core which in turn is supported by my legs during the downward pressure of each pedal stroke.

I am aware of my hips being rotated forward and of my elbows being bent and close in to my body. I also feel that I have moved somewhat forward on the saddle.

I believe that this cadence and posture provides an additional support for my trunk and and reduces the pressure on both my hands (bent elbows) and butt (rotated hips).

Last year, I had a bout with the flu and was off the bike (both outdoors and trainer) for 3 weeks. When I was able to resume riding, not only was my aerobic conditioning shot but I also experienced hand numbness, butt pain (beyond the everyday deal with people type), and neck pain. Being on the bike felt unnatural and uncomfortable.

Only after I had regained my strength and form through frequent shorter rides did these symptoms go away and I was able to extend my time on the bike.

BTW, for additional hand positions on my Utopia (hybrid), I moved the bar ends from the end of the handlebars to "inside" the grips. By bringing my hands closer together, I am better able to maintain elbow bend and am somewhat more "aerodynamic". I'm using aerodynamic loosely; after all it is a hybrid and I'm not exactly slim.


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Just my two cents about switching hand position on long rides--one of the benefits of dropped handlebars on a road bike is that you *can* do that on a long ride. I have my bike fitted for my primary position, and then make sure I am comfortable in alternate positions as well.

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Thanks Jim, I think it's time to go back. I'm getting some upper back pain that I know is from riding low, but holding my head up and forward.




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Freecloud

If your fitter is good he should be able to correct both issues. They should be able to find the compromise.

As far as your husband goes .... he may find he may not want gel shorts. I think when he gets a good fit he will be amazed at the comfort level.

I can ride with no padding on rides less than 30 miles anything over that and I wear my padded chamois shorts.

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DRC/Wongerchi: Thanks for the suggestion about fitting. When my husband got his bike, he had an initial fitting. The problem he's having with the saddle is numbness on long rides. The saddle he ordered has a cutout, so hopefully that will solve the problem, and he bought some shorts with gel padding instead of just the chamois padding.

In regarding to fittings, one thing I wonder about is how good can a fit be if I'm constantly changing positions on long rides? I ride mainly with my hands on the hoods, but when I get tired, I switch hand positions, which switches my whole body mechanic.

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I'm going to chime in. I got back to riding last April and had my old Raleigh 450 Technium. I had myself re-fitted at 2 different LBS's to see who I like the best. I had stuck with one now. I was initially fitted and then after about 600 - 700 hundred miles of riding I went back in and explained what I was feeling. Numbness in hands, butt, and feet. We tweaked and wha la no numbness and I was 2 mph faster in my speed.

After about another 600 hundred miles we had another look and tweaked my cleats and saddle height and aft again. No back aches and another 1 mph faster.

Now I was happy with the bike and I felt like I was one with the bike. My fitter did not like how my arms were bent and shoulders were but since I had the one unit triangular aero bars by Profile there was nothing we could do for that unless I was willing to go back to the original drop bars.

Here is the kicker .... in October I bought a 2005 Giant OCR Composite. Guess what I'm doing all over again??? I was initially fitted but now I'm having butt soreness and numb hands. I feel like I'm always pushing myself backwards in the saddle? Hopefully on Friday I can get with my favorite fitter and do some tweaking. I have between 300-400 miles on the new bike now. I do not want to tweak too many things. I want only a couple so that I can experience the results from the change.

I personally feel for me that I need to put on 300-500 miles or so before I go in for another tweak.

I'm hoping to get my free Syntace aero bars at that time as well. I think the LBS said it was the C2 model. It is going to cost me a 12 pack only.

Hence, the reason for wanting only a few items tweaked and now get fit tested with the aero bars;-)

I might adjust the hoods as well ?...not sure if I like my wrist being bent like they are?


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GIANT-STEPS makes a good point about fit. That's why I like my fitter so much - we dialed in the fit using basic principles and then we adjusted those principles to suit me. We do it every year, for both bikes.

I also like the fact I can drop her an email and go "hey, XX doesn't feel quite right, what do you suggest?" and I'll get feedback based on what she knows about my riding style, flexibility, etc.

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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
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For high-end road and racing bikes (although he has branched into off-road bikes), my old friend Benji Serotta is among the best - but be prepared to pay for it. His fit seminars are worth doing even if you don't go on to buy one of his masterpieces. I left Saratoga about 25 years ago, but my daughter went to Skidmore so I got to visit his original shop recently. If you are a competitive rider, he provides a wealth of knowledge.

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One thing I'd add is that not everyone who fits people to bikes knows what they are doing. I've seen a lot of bizarre fits over the years. Someone who has little experience and just measures and looks up numbers on a chart won't always give good suggestions.

I've worked at shops that had The Fit Kit. It was basically a sales tool. Having it meant that customers believed that we could fit them better to their bikes than our competitors who didn't have one. The one exception I'd mention is the RAD was excellent. I wrenched in the days of toe-clips and straps where there was no play in cleats and getting the cleats wrong could lead to serious problems. The RAD was the coolest thing for setting up cleats. Other than that I didn't find The Fit Kit that useful.

Anyway, when I went "by the book" the Fit Kit only gave reasonable advice for fairly normally proportioned cyclists (the ones that aren't hard to fit in the first place). I've had cases where I told people what Fit Kit recommended with the disclaimer that I thought it was off by a mile.

I really feel like I can do a better job fitting someone by going on a ride with them and watching them on their current bike and noting how I think they need to change.

I think a coach would be a far better resource than a bike shop to be fitted to a bike. Even the best fitting only gets you in the ballpark, it is up to the cyclist to fine tune it by trial and error and many thousands of miles in the saddle.

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John:
I had a long hard look at Argon 18 when I was thinking about a TT or cyclocross bike frame. Their TT frames look nice but I have my reservations about their CX frame. I spoke with one guy with an Argon 18 roadbike and he's happy with it... In my opinion, they are a good make but they're costly. They're also not a custom frame maker, they have frames of different sizes like most maunfacturers.

If it were me, I'd get a cheaper bike for your first one, and then once you know what you like and don't like and what size frame etc you want then think about getting a better bike. In Ottawa we have a shop that does custom-build bikes and I went there when I was looking for my first bike. I was far too intimidated and clueless then so I didn't get much help. I didn't really like the shop and so I wouldn't go back, but now I'd be better suited for a custom build.

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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
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Wongerchi- I found a bike shop downtown called cyclemotion, the have tools set up to measure body parts, height forearm inseam seated etc.. theres a bike Argon 18 they order it from plant in Montreal specific to body type, then when bike arrives you go in and they do the proper adjustments.

whats you take on Argon 18? www.argon18bike.com

thanks
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John:
Pearl Izumi makes a real nice short for me at least but they start at 50 and run up to 250 for bibs maybe 150 for pro short.

I agree on the fit. Make sure the bike fits and make sure the saddle is right or you won't ride long!

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I'm with DRC on this - if your hubby is having saddle problems, start with a good fit. And by good, I mean professional - it should take a couple of hours, minimum, and they should go through every aspect of the bike and your position on it.

I'm a bit picky about my fit - I'm always tweaking it throughout the season and working with a good fitter means that when I go in at the end of the year we can see what went right, what went wrong etc. A good fit is also free speed - I got 2mph faster simply by getting set up properly.

Once he's set up right then the next issue is swapping saddles. You should know where your saddle fore-aft (normally in relation to the middle of the crankarms), side-side and tilt position. Your fitter will provide you with the numbers or you can just measure with the bike on a level stand/trainer. You want to put the new saddle in the EXACT same position as the old one. Then test it out. Give it a couple of weeks and then keep it, or take it off and repeat the process with a new one.

Saddles are very personal choices - I went through a half dozen last winter to fine-tune one particular aspect of my fit. Once a saddle fits you, stick with it!

John:
If you don't know your size, be VERY CAREFUL when you buy a used bike. A bike that doesn't fit you may mean that it spends more time in the garage than on the road because you hate riding it. I'd even go so far as to say that your first bike should be from a bike shop. Yes it costs more, but then you'll have a bike that you'll be more likely to ride.

I know my size and it took me months to figure out what CX frame I wanted - I looked at so many geometry charts my head started to spin.

As I said above, saddle position is the first step in determining whether your saddle works for you or not. I know my #s by heart now and it's the one aspect of my position that hasn't changed, ever. So fit first, then different models later.

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FREECLOUD--if your husband is having that much trouble with his seat and shorts, he should take the bike into the LBS and have them adjust the positioning of the saddle. Just one more thing that could be causing the problem...

And trust me, I didn't pay $4000 for my 5.2!

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can anyone recommend a high end shorts?

I checked out craigs list and found a cyclocross fuji in mint condition for $600cash, and many more I think I will use this craiglist for a second bike !

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Hey John,
Congrats on making the leap to get into cycling! The shorts are priority one which everyone has already told you. If you ride a lot you might get into the higher end shorts too because the higher end will save your hind end!

As for the bikes seems like everyone has great suggestions but the thing that I did is I bought a bike off of craigslist. I own a Scattante CFR which is definately not the nicest frame but it is full carbon fiber and has all Ultegra components. I picked it up with 65 miles on it and a pair of virtually new SIDI shoes for $800 bucks... I can always buy a new frame later on for a higher end bike but mine came with pedals shoes and computer so I got a pretty good deal. The groupo would have cost about 1500 bucks and I can still use that with a new frame so you may find someone on the net that bought and is taking a loss because they didn't ride... Just my .02!

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OK remind me tomorrow in case I forget to tell you how the shoirts are on the bike.
The brand is Trek "Men's club Shorts" $49.99 in Canada, there is a very thick pad inside looks like a diaper - LOL

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John, if your shorts work well, let me know what brand you bought. My husband is having the worst time with his seat and has recently given in to ordering a new one (after trying several gel shorts). If his seat works out, I'll let you know what kind it is :)

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I Bought a pair of padded shorts today ! so when I go for test ride tomorrow I will see the difference

I also rented my bike parking spot in my building and paid my key to bike room deposit for 1 year !

Wongerchi How do I test an upgraded seat? I definitely will spend the money on that. I read there is a de-numbing type the split in two looking one?

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That's insane for a 5.2... Saying that however, if I had to have a Trek, that's the bike I'd get.

John:
I'm also not a big fan of Giant bikes, but that's just me. However, the Defy's a good bike for the price, provided you like it on the test ride. For the saddle, just throw out the stock one and get one that works for you - that's a whole other story!


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Yep, I'm fine! As for the new bike - I'm waiting for a set of brakes that haven't come in yet but it's practically built. I rode someone else's bike (my size) and the ride is fantastic. It feels more like my roadbike - much livelier and responsive than I'm used to on a CX bike! Oh boy the trails are going to be fun...

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Yep ! the 5.2 is $4069.99

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HEY, I was just in my LBS last week and saw the new new 5.2's. And when I saw the price, I think my jaw hit the floor! I know they revamped the frame, but still... Yep, glad I got mine when I did!

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I tried the tricross bike at the specialized dealer
and it had a staight handle bar, I like the drop bar like the road bikes. Aside from the seat comfort thing, I love the feel of a road bike.

I will test the Giant Defy ones tomorrow, I wish I could test ride the Rocky Mountain cyclocross CX one WongerChi recommended no one has it in store.
John

ps I bet everyone will say "Thank God !" when I finally have a bike LoL

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DRC: I can't believe how expensive Treks have gotten. The 5.2 lists for 4000; the 2.3 (same as my Pilot 2.1) is 1800. Looks like we both bought at the right time.

John: Since I viewed the SP site primarily as an aid in losing weight I chose a username that would serve as a light-hearted reminder to myself (and maybe others) to forego the junk food that I used to gobble.

DRC seems to be yet another voice encouraging first time bike buyers to consider cyclocross bikes. I wouldn't be hung up on trying to buy the perfect bike the first time out. Your needs will change over time as you ride more. I would encourage you to go the route of a decent yet inexpensive cross bike.

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My road bike is a Trek Madone 5.2 (2005) carbon fiber. I can't imagine having anything else. The only thing that isn't stock (besides adding the pedals) is the seat--I swapped it out for a women's specific saddle. I did not like the women's specific geometry, so it is a standard frame.

My commuting bike is a Diamondback cyclocross(~2000). Don't know the model. I swapped out the pedals for ones that are SPD on one side and platform on the other to make errands, etc easier. I also have touring tires on it right now, but my original tires are available to me. This was my first bike as an adult and I believe I got the best starter bike ever. Not only did it make me fall in love with the sport of cycling, it remains my go-to bike for trails, commuting, taking to the beach...

AMCG--one of the reasons I looked at Trek was the amazing customer service at my LBS. I had other options, but I got on the Madone and fell in love. Also, my Madone tends to live in the back of my SUV during riding weather, and I have gotten permission to store my CX in my community clubhouse during commuting season. Otherwise, they get carried up to my third floor condo and one goes on the trainer in the loft, and the other goes in back closet. I don't have a garage...

WONGERCHI--Eek! Glad to hear you are on the road to recovery, but I also know how much you liked that Fuji! All the best with the new bike.



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good to know Im not the only one finding everything sold out

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John, in response to your seat question - in my experience, the seat that comes with the bike is usually very uncomfortable. Once you choose a bike, try a good pair of gel-padded bike shorts/bibs. If that works for you, great! If not, then start looking at different seats.

I'm in Illinois and it is already a bit late in the season. I'm having a heck of a time even finding road shoes in my size!

Edited by: FREECLOUD at: 5/17/2009 (19:10)
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Hey HEYPUTTHATDOWN LoL what does your username mean?

I just test ride the Allez Specialized today and the Tricross bikes while I was there I didn't like the cross bike so I"ve narrowed this down to a road bike

My only concern is the seat, can I sit that way for long time. I will buy those padded shorts
The Allez is same price as the Trek 2.1

Im having a tough time finding my size or model they're telling me I'm buying late in the season???

I would like to try the Giant Defy Advanced 3.
but am doubting I can find it in Toronto.
I will do search of dealers google and see what i can find

WongerChi no one carries the Rockymountain cyclocross even the dealers I found on line that sell it. They will order it for me but I have to pay for it and its a done deal without test ride.

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Very true, I bought the previous year's models both times and they were significantly less then the newer ones.

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good point sometimes we overlook that and buy in a rush costing us $400 more, I noticed a Sherpa 10 for $1000 because its 2008 model and if cash will be $950 thats a savings of over $400 for 2009 model
he only has one and wants sell to make space for new bikes
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If saving money is important (and it usually is!), look for previous year models of whichever bike you choose. My Trek 1000 is no longer being made (replaced by the Trek 1.2) and is a 2007 model. I got it new for $400.

I was very patient and looked long and hard for exactly what I wanted. Also, buying before cycling season starts in your area will get you some great discounts.

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For my road bike I have a MASI Alere and I love it. All aluminum frame and a carbon fork. Shimano running gear. (under $1000) I did not want another Giant, Trek or Specialized (everybody has those... and hey, they are all from the far east anyways.... way overpriced in my opinion.

My MTB is a Haro Flightline Comp... again.. not one of the "big 3". 27 speed.

I would definitely buy both again and recommend both of these to anyone!

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WoW ! thanks my head is spinning like a bike wheel with all this information

much appreciated

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My first bike was a Gary Fisher Utopia hybrid. Like many beginning riders, I started on trails and paths and transitioned to road riding as I became more mile-hungry.

The Utopia is a very nice hybrid (disk brakes a plus). In retrospect, I think a better first bike would be a flat bar (for handling and trigger shifting) cyclocross bike. A cyclocross frame is lighter (the front suspension on most hybrids is unnecessary) and with a simple tire swap the cross bike is easily converted to a road touring bike.

My road bike is a Trek Pilot 2.1. It is a mix of aluminum/carbon and has a good mix of Ultegra (RD) and 105 components. The relaxed geometry was a nice transition from the Utopia.

I am generally satisfied with the Pilot. I have modified the Pilot over the last two years as I have become more comfortable with a flatter riding posture (the big step is flipping your stem). While I have found the triple on the Pilot to be a godsend on some steeper climbs, I think the I would be just as happy with a compact 34/50 and a 12-27 cassette.

John:

If this is your first road bike, be aware that the purpose of your first bike is for you to learn what you really want in a bike and that your tastes will develop as you become more experienced.

That said, I agree that the current Treks are overpriced. My Pilot 2.1 cost $1400 two years ago. The 2.3 is $1800 and is identical to my Pilot. The 2.1 is based on Tiagra (lower level) 9-speed and costs the same as my Pilot.

As an alternative to the 2.1, consider a Specialized Allez Sport Compact Double; MSRP is $1300 and
it is full Shimano 105.

As an alternative to the 2.3 consider a Giant Defy Advanced 3. It is a full carbon frame (the
new Giant carbon frames are very nice) and has a mix of Ultegra (RD)and 105. The going price is
around $1900 including Crank Brothers Smarty pedals (no clipless pedals on the Treks FTL).

www.bikesale.com/2009-giant-defy-adv
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I'll have to take a picture of our storage. It cracks people up. Our 'living room' is not a room you would consider a living room to be. We have a GIANT pool table in the middle...no dining room table for me...we have a weight bench on the other end with two of our bikes leaning on it. My hubby's bike has a stand so it sits on its own next to my piano. The fourth bike sits on a trainer next to the pool table. We decided last night it would have a new name...gar-room. *giggle* We have never used it as a living/dining room. *giggle*

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Anne:
We have 3 bikes which live in hooks on the garage walls for the summer, and then when the car comes into the garage during the winter, the roadbike lives on the trainer in the basement, while the other two bikes get hung on hooks in a storage room. Hanging bikes is definitely the best way to go - we have a teeny tiny garage and hanging my road and CX bike means they fit into the same space as a single bike on the floor.

In terms of the popularity for Trek and C'dale, my guess is that it's the Lance effect for Trek and the "Made in the USA" effect for C'dale. Although now all the high-end Cannondale frames are made in Taiwan, as are all the Treks. In fact, the vast majority of frames are made in the Far East. Does that bother me? Not really, they are good at it!

John:
If you can fit and afford the 2.3, get it. Much better component spec than the 2.1. That said, I don't really like Trek bikes - I've ridden a couple and they never felt quite right to me. They also hit you on the components - their stock stuff is always one step lower than other manufacturers for a bike of comparable price.

If you want to still go the CX bike route then don't forget that Rocky offers 4 different models of CX bike. Just because I got a top-of-the-line bike doesn't mean that you should too - the Solo CXR would be more than enough bike for you.

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On storing your bikes, Use hooks (padded) from the walls and/or from the ceilings. I have 4 kids each with one bike and my wife and I both have two. I have a three car garage and 3 vehicles and we park our cars in the garage and have room.

Not all LBS who specialize in Trek and/or Specialized have crappy service. If they do there is always another LBS down the road.

I guess I'm fortunate with my LBS ..... these guys bend over backwards. I got a wireless c2 Cateye for the same price for the cadence wireless strata Cateye because I had to wait 2 weeks and the computer still was not in.

The other night on the TT I made mention that riding in the drops stunk and I need aero bars. The manager of the LBS overheard me and said I have a practically new pair of Syntace c2 clip on (?) that might work for me. I called him yesterday to see if he was serious and I asked how much and I'll get it for the cost of a six pack.?;-)

I think if you are getting poor service in today's economy that that LBS does not deserve your business. I would go to some one else as well.

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I have two bikes: A Trek FX 7.2 WSD and a Giant Suede. Obviously 2 totally different bikes, ha! The trek I bought for my "getting my fat behind in shape" rides. The Suede is my cruise around carrying a Starbucks while wearing my Vans and baggie shorts bike. Not a bike to whip me into shape, but a fun bike all the same.

I would definitely buy both again if given the choice. Road bikes are not for me, not yet anyway. I still have a couple of physical issues going on that would make a road bike waaaay too painful. Need to be just a bit more upright for now. When some of the weight is off and my lower back is not screaming I'll be MUCH better off!!!

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I have hooks in my garage that I hang our road bikes from. On the covered back porch we have my daughter's bike and our cruiser and hybrid. When my daughter wants to go for a ride we just hop on them.

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WONGERCHI- OK they dont have the Felt in stock, and the cyclocross rocky mountain at cycle path can order it for me but its $2100.
Now Im back to where I started.
Im now thinking of buying the Trek 2.1 (around 1,400)
or the 2.3 (not sure the price)
http://www.trekbikes.com/ca/en/bikes/com
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What do you think about the 2.1?

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For storing, we wound up buying a nice large trailer, that has since been converted into one half bike shop/work area, one half storage. Between my boyfriend and I, we have 8 bikes. They do take up a bit of space. We intend on travelling so our bikes will be in the trailer behind our motorhome.

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Wow, is this thread informative! I have a Specialized Dolce, which I am really enjoying. The LBS which we have loved with our kids really specializes, no pun intended, in Specialized and our local Trek and Performance stores are notorious for awful service. So my question is, why do I mostly see Cannondale and Trek on our threads?

On a related matter, in my dream world where I have won the lottery, I would also love to have a hybrid to ride around with my kids. I won't give up my road bike, but I don't feel as confident on it with the baby seat on the back as I did the hybrid I had for all of two weeks.

By the way, where and how do you store all of your bikes? We refuse to park the cars out of the garage, for many reasons, but the bikes and carrier on my van are eating up the floor space at an alarming rate!

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John:
Unfortunately, comparing the F75 to the Rocky is like comparing, say an F1 car to a BMW. They may look the same but they are two different bikes. The Felt is a ROADBIKE, the Rocky is a CYCLOCROSS bike. You'd have to compare the same type of bike for it to be valid - in the Felt lineup, the bike that most resembles the Rocky is the F35X.

Both bikes have a unique purpose - the roadbike is designed to be ridden on the road, and does it very well. The CX bike is a "jack of all trades" bike - at home on the road, commuting in the city, and in the dirt. However, it doesn't do any of these things as well as say a roadbike on the road, or an MTB in the dirt.

That said, the Felt is a decent bike for a decent price. Try it out - if it fits you and you can afford it then get it. It's more than enough bike for you right now.

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I have two bikes they are both Treks.
2008 Hybrid
2008 Portland Road Bike.

I love both my bikes, but I have to say I like my Portland Trek better. I guess I love the fact it has disk breaks.

I have been very happy With Trek, and just for FYI
in the Giro de Italli(hope I spelt that right emoticon )Lance Armstrong is riding a Trek.

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My two bikes are a mid-80's Centurian and an early 70's Gitane. Love them but neither are sold any more. Several people who rode my Centurian told me it was the best riding bike they every threw a leg over. Over the years I've only rode 2 bikes I liked better, one was a steel Eddie Merckx and the other was a custom built frame that I never was able to confirm the builder (the builder put production stickers on it).

I do keep an eye peeled on lists and ebay. I'm not as flexible as I used to be so my 58cm Centurian is a tad small, if someone was selling a 60cm Cinelli project Centurian in good shape I'd snap it up.

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emoticon Hi Chi- thanks for all your bike advice yesterday !

can you look at this bike Felt F75 for me (avail on wheels on bloor)
www.feltracing.com/09/product.aspx?pid=8
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and compare it to the Solo CXR Team Rocky Mountain bike for me?

Thanks again
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MTNBIKENV... you certainly do have a stable!!





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John:
No worries, ask away. The Rocky is a CYCLOCROSS bike. This bike is totally different from a hybrid, which I've seen being marketed recently as a "cross" bike. I have no idea what that means, but I do know that I hate hybrids!

Here's what wikipedia has to say about cyclocross...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclocross

There are subtle differences between a cyclocross bike and a roadbike - the frame is more rugged, there's more space for wider tires, and the brakes and cabling is different. My position on the two bikes is subtly different too. If I had to keep one bike, I'd keep the cyclocross bike - it does everything, road, trails, commuting, and does it pretty well!

I race both my bikes, although I'm not sure if you can call it racing - I show up, pin on a number and end up mid-pack. My roadbike does road race, time trial and duathlon duty in the summer, while my cyclocross bike does cyclocross duty in the fall and some "off-road" racing in the spring. Before I got my roadbike I raced duathlons with my cyclocross bike - all I did was change the tires and it was race ready!

Generally, I'll train on my roadbike and commute on my CX bike. In the spring/summer I'll ride the roadbike much more than the CX bike. However, come July-August, I'll start to put more miles on the CX bike and take it onto the trails to work on the bike handling skills needed for CX season. Then when Oct-Nov comes, the roadbike moves inside and the CX bike gets ridden pretty much exclusively outside.

Edited by: WONGERCHI at: 5/13/2009 (15:52)
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Wongerchi
I just noticed the Rockymountain is a road bike
why do you have 2 roads I thought you had Road & rocky was your hybrid city bike

I guess you must have a very expensive road bike for races and use the other one for everyday?

John
ps sorry to be such a pain

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I've got a specialized

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I love it. I have a 14.3 mile ride into work that I try to do several days a week. It's sturdy enough to take my basket and bag, and fast enough to be commutable.

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John:
I have a Rocky Mountain Solo CXR Team frame being built up. Its their top-of-the-line bike from last year - the LBS had some in stock which was nice given my old frame will take about a month to come back. The complete bike is here:
www.bikes.com/main+en+01_102+Solo_CX
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I've heard a price for the full bike somwhere around $1800 CDN.

Oh, Wheels of Bloor is the bike shop in TO that you wanted...

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I go cheap so I got a new bike for christmas and hubby spent more than I do and it wasn't much. He got me a women inspired schwin and it's a trail/mountain bike I use it for street too and I love it. I don't need much just around town and some group rides.

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Wongerchi- I was looking for a city & trail bike at my locale cyclepath store s Rocky Mountain is cyclocross frame the name of the model? I want to test ride it

thanks
John

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Cool Group. Too bad I bought my Novarra (REI's internal model) Ponderosa 29er before looking at the reviews. Really though, the Ponderosa has been great and I've put it through a good bit. I tried the Marin and didn't like the fit as well. My road bike is a 1988 Nashbar custom creation. I do need to update to index shifters, but I know once I start . . .

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I'm like Marnie - both my bikes are ones that you don't see all over town...

My road/racing bike is a Limited Edition Fuji Roubaix. For one reason or another, usually fit or crappy parts, nothing on it is stock apart from the frame and fork, shifters, brakes and front and rear derailleurs. I love, love this bike. Fits me like a glove and while I still make adjustments here and there to get it "just so" I couldn't ask for anything better.

My cyclocross bike used to be a Fuji too, and everything I said about the roadbike applies to this one too. Most of the parts are trickle down parts from the roadbike but I upgraded the wheels. However, after an incident with a car and a busted fork, I'm now getting a new Rocky Mountain cyclocross frame! I pick it up on Friday with all my bits transferred over and all I have to do is dial in the fit. Should be easy, I have the numbers...

Not the best way to get a new bike (and I'm OK, bruised, swollen knee and a healthy dose of roadrash) but I upgraded my bike for free.

And yes, I'd buy any of those bikes again in a flash.

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My new bike that I LOVE is my Cannondale F6. It is my baby. We don't have road bikes at this point in time and may someday but not now. We need to be on them more. My hubby's bike is a 2004 Cannondale F600. My daughter's bike is a Specialized Myka 2008 version. :) We are a bike family!

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5/13/09 12:10 P

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Road Bike - Giant OCR. I really enjoy it and recently took it over 4,000 miles. Its overdue for a tune up, but I hope to top 5,000 early this summer.

Daily Commute Bike - Novaro Metro. Great get around bike - used to commute ~23 miles round trip ~3 times a week and it was great. Commute is now less than a mile, so I'm not putting as many miles on it. Changed a lot fewer tires in all my miles on the Metro than the OCR. emoticon

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I have a Specialized Rockhopper mountain bike (rigid - no shocks). I bought it used and learned to ride trails on this bike 10 years ago. I have since put paniers on it and made it into a commuter bike. This is a very reliable, sturdy bike, which is a bit heavy compared to my new mountain bike, but it fits me well and I still like it.

I replaced the Rockhopper with a Giant (sorry don't remember the model). I LOVE my Giant, although it does that rattle when I change gears. After my Muddy Buddy race last weekend and getting it really gritty, it's in the shop for a tune up this week. I haven't rode trails in a long time, but after the race last weekend, I plan to start again once a week or every other week.

My road bike is a LeMonds Versaille. It's a full carbon frame and very light. Honestly I think it is a tiny bit big, but since I have always ridden mountain bikes, I think I keep trying to compare the two fits. Everyone that has fitted me on this bike says it's fine (I have been to a couple of different stores for their opinion). There are times when I am on this bike and it feels like an extension of myself, so I think that's the best gauge of whether or not a bike really fits you. I am probably 80% happy with this bike, but next time (if I decide to get another bike) I think I will try a women's specific design.

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5/13/09 11:54 A

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That reminds me - I also have a DiamondBack mountain bike that I've had for 10+ years. Never, ever had a problem with it. I use it now for riding on limestone trails as my road bike is a bit scary on limestone. It can be done, of course, but I feel safer on the mountain bike.

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Wow !

Im thing I need a road & a urban bike I can putz around on the bike trails and not freakout if I lock it somewhere.

I dont think I can lock & leave a bike worth $1500.
on a post somewhere

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Road Bike ~ Ridley Orion. It's carbon, with Campy Record components, Ksyrium wheelset. It's a dream bike, and oh yes, I love it. It's as perfect of a bike as I could want.

Mtn Bike ~ Marin Riftzone. XTR components, Spinergy wheelset. Fantastic bike. I wouldn't change a thing.

Touring ~ Diamondback Voyager, very customized. Built up with XTR components. Has all the bells and whistles that a touring bike could need, has the best of everything.

And my good ole around town 30 dollar circa early 80's Univega... steel frame. Bought it off of craigslist for 30 bucks, put on a new saddle, new tires, cables, brakes etc and it's been a fun ride around town. A bike I don't have to freak about.

I love my stable of bikes. I wouldn't give up any of them. They are unique. I like riding a bike that isn't on every street corner.

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JHOLLNAGEL- the motor? LoL !

I think by eating the best quality foods and Yoga
helps the motor plenty when we do all the higer impact stuff like running! and more energy for cycling

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I have a Cannondale Synapse (carbon) Road Bike and love it and would buy it again. My engineer father would have appreciated the design; it does give a smooth ride.
I also have a Cannondale Quick for Winter (messy weather rides), I would prefer the horn handlebars on the Quick instead of the straight handlebars it has now. The good part of straight handlebars is it seems friendlier to novice riders I lend it too.

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A Giant OCR Composite. Thus far, I would buy the same. If I would not it would be something compatible with Trek. I like the geometry of the frames.

I have a little over 300 miles on it since i bought it. So I'm trying to dial it in yet. I want to put on about 500 miles or so before I go in and adjust the fit.

I hated to give up riding my Raleigh Technium 450 because I finally felt one with the bike after 1400 miles of riding.

I love the light weight of the carbon frame.

The only thing I would change on the bike is its motor. Boy is that thing old!!!! Does any one know where I can get an upgrade???;-)

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Freecloud- sounds good.
You should go to the bike store you bought it from and tell them about that shifting problem. They can help you with that and maybe some helpful tips? without spending more on upgrades

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I have a Trek 1 road bike. I love, love everything about it except the shifting. It tends to not shift cleanly and then has a rattle that drives me absolutely nuts while I'm riding. It takes forever to get it fine tuned enough to make the rattle go away, and then it's usually not in a gear I want.

I believe I can probably upgrade something or other to make this problem stop, but I just got the bike a few months ago and still need to convince myself that it's not my lack of know-how before I start to invest more money.

Of all the people I know that own various Trek models, not one has chosen anything else. They always keep going back to Trek.

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Giant OCRC3, yes...love the carbon frame...makes a big difference for climbing!


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we can post what brand of bike we have and if we are happy with it? would we buy it again?

anything we dont like about it?

JOHN

ps Im trying to decide on Trek 2.1

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