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3/26/09 12:08 P

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For boys, bibs are an essential piece of kit. I love mine, much more than my shorts! Try a pair guys, you'll love 'em.

While I think that you definitely gets what you pays for when it comes to shorts, it's fit that's the overall marker of comfort for me. I have a pair of mid-price shorts which is great for anything under 1.5 hours. After that they become ugly. One of my cheaper pairs of shorts is good to around 2+.

The problem I've found is that you never know what works and what doesn't. I'm very brand loyal when it comes to shorts - I know what brands work for my butt and generally just get those.

Really though, the most important items of clothing/gear are the ones for your butt, hands and feet. Don't be afraid to splash out on those things - and yes, that includes saddle swaps handlebars and pedals (been there, done that for all 3)...

Michelle - I'm glad you know Marnie, she'll set you right.

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3/24/09 9:37 P

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I'm a woman and I wear regular padded bib shorts just fine. My chest is a b-c cup, depending, and the suspender straps don't bother me. Not having the binding elastic on the waist really makes a difference.

While I appreciate that Scott and probably others prefer the more expensive shorts, I have found that the most important thing to making my ride comfortable is the seat. I now ride a seat that is fairly small with little padding and a channel all the way down the middle that goes all the way to the nose of the saddle.

All padding eventually gets smushed down under your weight. For me, having that channel cut down the middle took the pressure off the important parts.

I bought my two pairs of bib shorts on ebay for about $10. While they may be better, $100 shorts are not an option for me at this time.

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3/24/09 9:20 P

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Even though I am male I got some good advice here also

The Picture on the left is my motivation to get in shape and lose weight!!!!!!!


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3/24/09 9:18 P

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Hey Bev,
Glad to see you found the benefits of biking shorts.
I guess it really comes down to a simple question:
How long do you want to ride?

Notice that it doesn't matter if you racing at anarobic levels or coasting around smelling flowers, it's a time thing. I discovered that shorts that cost $30-40 (like the Performance Century Bev mentioned) allow me to ride for about 30-40 minutes... until things get ugly. A $60 pair and I can go for hours. A $75-$99 pair and the length of my ride is determined by other factors... like being out of shape :) which is exactly what it should be all about. And, I can do it again the next day... that is the real measure! This is what I discovered after I had amassed a few different pairs. After I while I would avoid the cheap pairs until all my good ones were dirty - then I finally decided not to have any cheap ones to make my life easier :) Everyone is unique and needs to find what works for them.

I would suggest going into a bike shop and finding a pair that you definitely would buy in your price range... then just for fun, try one the top of the line shorts, then make the decision.

Oh, also 'Bibs' are just bike shorts that have straps that go over the shoulder (like a wrestling suit, or overalls, that go under the jersey of course). This way, there is no "elastic" around the waist and therefore super comfy. Other than that, they are the same as regular cut shorts. Bibs are more comfortable to men but ergonomically, they often don't make much sense for women due to the straps, so go with regular shorts.

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3/24/09 5:39 P

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I prefer padded bike shorts to bib shorts, I like Performance Century and Performance Splice, but have several others. I would never have thought I would be riding a bike is spandex. Also I am long bodied and women's jerseys are too short for me, so I wear men's. For just riding around the neighborhood I get plain Jane solid colors, but for rides I have some cuter ones. If you don't want a jersey, any water wicking top will work. We have leg and arm warmers that we can wear with short or long sleeve jerseys and remove if it warms up. They fold nicely and fit in a jersey pocket. Also have a good wind jacket that folds up and fits into a pocket. We have shoe covers, but have never used them. I hate to wear shoes, love sandals so I have bike sandals for warmer weather. Most important is to be comfortable.

Since we are usually on the tandem and I have problems reaching the water bottle, I wear a Camel back. In the summer I fill it with ice and it helps keep me cool. I also stay better hydrated since I can drink easier. Since I have the Camel Back, I keep a Cage Bullet in my water cage with energy snacks (AKA PayDay), wet wipe, and kleenex.

We have a small pack under the seat with tubes, tire tools, patch kit, a compressed towel, money for emergencies, and Soft Lips (gotta keep my lips hydrated). We have a frame pump instead of CO2 cartridge. We have a small handlebar bag we use for rides that do not offer rest stops. We keep small snacks and extra water in it.

As you ride you will be able to personalize your accessories. Don't think you have to have everything with you at all times. When we ride in a group someone will have what we need.



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3/24/09 3:51 P

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Thanks, that is helpful!

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3/24/09 3:30 P

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OUTOFCONTROL!
I agree with what most people said... but I'll try to add something of value.

Yes, you are going to need "real" bike shorts and preferably a "real" jersey. My girlfriend went on a ride with me and refused to wear bike shorts (based on how they looked)(although admittedly, I only had men's shorts but it would be better than just "yoga capris" that she had. I said ok, but if I "allowed" her, she could not complain of any discomfort (half kidding of course). She had to do a lot of lip biting on that ride... but she loved the ride and certainly will be getting some nice gear soon!

For chilly weather, either tights or you can get arm warmers and leg warmers (easy to take off if you get hot during the ride). A vest or light cycling jacket is also great... look for "windstopper" tag or at least something that says windproof. Get some gloves, saves your hands if you have a crash.

But of course, saying you need some shorts with chamois pad is a little like saying you just need something with 4 wheels if you want a car. There are many options. In my long experience as a cyclist (buying both "value" and pricey stuff) I would say to look for high-end shorts and stay away from cheap shorts. In the US, shorts under $50 might get you by, but if you step up to something in the $75-$99 range, you just entered a whole new WORLD of comfort. Top of the line Pearl Izumi is available at almost every bike shop but I know Nalini makes some really attractive stuff for women. For jerseys, make sure you get pockets in the back, and make sure it fits tightly (especially around your torso area and doesn't "hang down" below your waist very much. Remember that the look and feel of the clothing is much different when you try it on in the store and when you are actually in riding position.

For gear, I saddle bags are very handy and great for just storing some emergency gear. Personally, they annoy me (mostly the sound they make over bumps) so I just put all my stuff in my pockets.
I carry:
Tube
Tire Levers (Park brand is best)
CO2 Cartridges (2) + valve
Mini-Chain Tool
Mini Allen Wrench set

That gets me pretty far. For long rides the only change I make is to take some cash (a few currencies required here) in case of emergency or stop at a cafe etc.

Good luck!

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3/24/09 1:59 P

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That's an offer I can't refuse Marnie!

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3/24/09 1:43 P

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Michelle let me go shopping with you. I haven't made the rounds around the bike shops in awhile!

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3/24/09 1:41 P

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Thanks for the question Michelle and all the great responses!!!

I have had my bike for a little less than a month and just start switching from a running mindset to a cycling one when looking for clothing!!! I bought two pairs of short cycling short and one pair of cycling capris plus a few long sleeve tops!!! I also bought cycling gloves this morning on a friend's recommendation!!!

I will be getting some "shooter" sleeves? for my early morning rides and I have found wearing a sweatband under my helmet keeps my ears warm!!!

I still need to accessorize my bike with pouches and lights and pick up a repair kit!!!

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3/24/09 12:03 P

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I use a camelbak instead of a water bottle, mostly because I am not coordinated enough to pull out a bottle from the rack if I am going fast. Plus my camelbak has a couple of pouches on the inside so when I take a long ride I can store a snack like gels, or a whole meal -- PB&J sandwich, fruit, granola bar. I also put my cellphone in there, too, in case I fall. I am afraid if I put the phone in my jersey pocket it will break in a fall.

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Thanks! Since I bought a used bike it did come with some things already, like the pouch filled with tools and spare tubes. I do know Marnie(MTNBIKENV), she helped me when I bought the bike. That makes sense to just get shorts and then wear any pants or tights over them if it's cold. Oh, and I do have a Road ID that I used when I was running.

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3/24/09 11:50 A

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Congrats on the new bike! Here's what to get:

Clothing:
DEFINITELY a decent, well fitting pair of bike shorts (the ones with the padding under the crotch). Try on as many as you can, if possible. Remember that sizing varies between manufacturers - I'm a large in one brand and a medium in another. If you find a nice pair, get two. DO NOT wear underwear - padded bit on shorts goes directly on groin.

Pick up a bike jersey or two too. Fit's not as important as shorts, but you'll grow to love the back pockets. The louder the better - better visibility.

Other things include a rain jacket but you're in NV so that's not as important as if you lived in, say Seattle. You could also get some legwarmers if it's cold out but a pair of bike shorts underneath pants works well initially. Likewise with armwarmers - I have them and love mine for racing or long rides where it starts out cold, but I commute with a bike jersey over a long-sleeved base layer if it's chilly.

Gear:
DEFINITELY a flat-repair kit. Get a saddlebag and fill it with 2 tire levers, a spare tube, CO2 (or bring a pump), a patch kit and paper money. Learn how to change a flat (get the bike shop or a friend to show you, or look it up) and practise, practise, practise at home. Initially you'll take ages but once you get the hang of it you'll get quicker. The last thing you want to do is be stranded by the side of the road trying to change your first flat when it's cold, windy, raining and getting dark.

Road ID is a good thing to get if you don't have one already. Water bottles and on-bike food obviously.

That's my essential list, I know I've forgotten other things but I'm sure everyone else will chip in. Our co-leader (MTNBIKENV) is also around the Reno area and may be able to advise you on where to go locally for stuff.

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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
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3/24/09 11:44 A

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Well, depends on what climate you're in. Here are my clothing basics:

padded bib shorts (i can't stand a binding waist)
sports bra and/or tank bra
jersey with back pockets
windbreaker vest
gloves
wool socks

For winter I have:
windproof jacket
headband/earwarmer band
hat to go under helmet
tights to wear over shorts
arm warmers
winter gloves
baselayer longsleeve shirt

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I just bought a bike, but I have no clothing or gear to go with it. I need recommendations or advice for buying my first items of cycling clothing and gear. Do I need short, pants, or capris? What are your favorite and most versatile items?

Michelle
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