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1/21/09 3:14 P

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I run 4 lights on my commuter since most of my morning ride is in the dark. I have a Schmidt dyno hub & light along with a backup battery light for the front. I also run 2 tail lights. One steady and one blinker.

I went for a too long ride a few summers ago and got caught out in the boonies with no lights. It was a moonless light and was so dark I couldn't see my hand in front of my face! I couldn't even balance on the bike. I had to finish the ride by the passing cars headlights. If no cars were nearby, I'd have to stop and wait for the next one to come along. That was an experience I don't want to repeat.

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1/15/09 8:40 A

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Before doing your night ride, make sure you're familiar with the route. At night it's very difficult to see holes and debris on the road with enough time to react. If you're familiar with the route, you'll be bunches safer. My 2 cents.

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i want to go for a night ride. i'll have to do that soon.

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1/14/09 1:02 P

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dynohubs are good but expensive. I can build my own wheels but for most cyclists this is yet another expense. You can't turn the generator off like you can with other generators but when the lights are off there is very little drag.

I'm not aware of any dynohubs that store electricity for when you are stopped. I've seen lights with built in batteries or capacitors so they stay lit a while after the generator stops. Designing something with a rechargable battery that can keep the lights on a few minutes that recharges from the generator shouldn't be hard.

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1/13/09 7:56 P

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I should find out more about dynohubs. Does the light turn off when the wheel isn't spinning or is there some charge stored?

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I used to do night riding a lot. I didn't buy my first car until I was 24 so since my bicycle was transportation I rode it whenever I needed to go anyplace day or night.

My town bike had a lot of reflective tape, I put strips of it on the back of my chainstays, saddle pillar and pedals and on the front of my fork, head tube, and the part of the handlebars not covered by tape. Since my bike shop had a huge surplus of wheel reflectors from cyclists who didn't want them I put 3 wheel reflectors on each wheel.

For light I got a Union bottle generator and halogen headlight and taillight. This didn't light up the road much so I mounted another Sanyo generator at the bottom bracket that ran a 2nd halogen headlight.

Since my taillight went out when I stopped I added a Cateye battery taillight (LED lights were not out yet).

Everyone who saw me on the road told me that I was lit up like a Christmas tree.

Currently (pun intended) the best approach to generator lighting is a dynohub. I may have to build up a front wheel with one of these puppies one of these days.

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1/12/09 9:51 P

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My ride home from work is in the dark, although it's starting out in twilight now. I run two white blinky "5 LED lights" plus another solid super LED spot on the handle bars, two red multiple LED blinkies on the rear. and one white blinky and one red blinky on my helmet, plus lots of retro-reflective 3M tape on the frame. The white spot provides light so I can see the road, the rest are so I can be seen. I had a couple of expensive headlights that ran on a rechargeable battery pack that went in the water bottle cage but the battery gave out. Now I look for lights that run on AAs.

One evening, a car past me, then stop in front of me at a red light. The driver got out of the car. I though, oh no, he's going to chew me out or something. Instead he said, "I can really see you. All cyclists should be so bright." So all the lights must be working.

I'm hoping to join in the Tour la nuit in Montreal June 7 this year when 12,000 cyclists do a night ride. http://www.velo.qc.ca/feria/index_e.php?pa
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1/10/09 10:15 P

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when i first learned how to decend a steep 5 mile slope it was doing repeats on that road in the dark, you get used to it after a while, its also nice to find a road that is sort of remote in oreder to cut down on traffic =)

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1/10/09 9:13 P

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I don't ride at night (almost night blind) but DH just loves it, especially mountain bike rides. He has 2 lights, one on the bike, one on his helmet. Says it helps with depth perception. I don't know about that, but they sure light up the night.

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1/10/09 5:32 P

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I don't like to ride at night, and don't usually have to do it. But, one of my very favorite group rides is the Morning Glory Ride in Cincinnati. It starts at 5 in the morning, and tons of people of all riding abilities show up to ride 17 miles to breakfast. Seeing all those lights in the dark is a beautiful sight, and it seems much less dangerous than riding alone at night. (There aren't many cars at that hour, and the drivers who are out at that time are being careful to look out for the bikers.)


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If anyone has DiNotte lights, read this:

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2. Lithium-Ion Batteries Used with Bicycle Lights Recalled By DiNotte
Lighting Due to Burn Hazard

NEWS from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 18, 2008
Release #09-045

Firm's Recall Hotline: (866) 822-7694
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

Lithium-Ion Batteries Used with Bicycle Lights Recalled By DiNotte
Lighting Due to Burn Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary
recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using
recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: DiNotte Lighting Lithium-Ion batteries used with
bicycle lights

Units: About 1,700

Manufacturer: AA Portable Power Corp., of Richmond, Calif.

Distributor: DiNotte Lighting, of Hampton, NH

Hazard: A loose wiring connection and improper venting can cause the
battery to overheat, posing a burn hazard to consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: None reported.

Description: DiNotte Lighting Lithium-Ion battery with nylon bags are
used with DiNotte 5W Li-Ion bicycle lights and DiNotte 3 LED police
lights. The DiNotte logo is printed on the battery cable connector.

Sold at: Bicycle and recreation stores nationwide and by Internet
retailers from February 2006 through March 2007 for between $200 and
$400.

Manufactured in: United States and China

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the battery and contact
the company to receive a free replacement battery.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact DiNotte Lighting
at (866) 822-7694 between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. ET Monday through Friday,
visit the firm's Web site at www.dinottelighting.com, or email the firm
at service@dinottelighting.com information about all types of recalls,
visit www.recalls.gov

To see this release on CPSC's web site, please go to:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm
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DODGEGM:
Only one way to find out....jut do it.

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Have not gone on any night rides yet, I hear they are different

The Picture on the left is my motivation to get in shape and lose weight!!!!!!!


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11/18/08 7:11 A

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if you havent bought lights yet, performance has nite rider enduro-its really bright, lasts 4 hours and only takes 2.5 hours to charge. the battery is kind of big, i stick mine in a camelpack(that is has reflective trim and i stick a blinky on it too)

performance has sales, its usually around $300, i picked one up for $200.



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JHOLLNAGEL:
I use the Niterider Trinewt, High-Powered LED, Lithium Ion. After use, I leave it charging so it's ready to use the following day. A bit expensive but worth every penny.

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10/27/08 3:47 P

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I'm totally Fred'ed out when I ride at night.
Reflective vest, ankle, and wrist bands...reflective tape in strategic portions of my frame and helmet...a home built halogen light (dubbed "the retina burner")
...a red blinkie...an LED light on the helmet... and a backup high-powered 3-watt LED light in my trunk bag (Just in case the battery for the halogen system dies before getting home).
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10/27/08 3:37 P

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What brand name and model do you have if you don't mind my asking?

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10/27/08 11:49 A

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I do the majority of my riding in the dark. From my experience, I buy the strongest and longest lasting lights that I can reasonable find. Currently, my lights will last 4+ hours and give a more than adequate amount of light. My bod is way too important to skimp on!!

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10/19/08 2:39 P

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Well I went on a ride this past Wed. night and thought I would be back without needing lights .... boy was I wrong. I made a wrong turn but that would have only added 5-10 mins to the ride at most. I came back in the total darkness .... not fun It is time to research and get lights now!!! I found myself gravitating toward the headlights of the on coming cars because I could not see where I was on my side.

I'm dang lucky I was not hit.

I will not be riding again starting out that late again until I get some lights now.

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10/16/08 1:59 P

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I love Christmas Lights rides!

You're absolutely right that the lighting is essential. I enjoy putting my back (red) light on "blinky" so it catches the attention of the cars coming up behind me.

Have fun!

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10/14/08 4:52 P

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With the low sun angle at sunrise and sunset our local club tries to plan our rides so the sun is at our back as much as possible. Even with lights, it is hard for cars to see.

In Eastern Ky we put up the road bikes and get out the knobbies during the fall. Great scenery, wildlife, and no traffic in the woods.

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Jim, as you know, I mentioned this on our virtual TransAmerican bike tour but you brought it up again and I'd like to share it with the folks here.

Anyone been to Glacier National Park? They have a road named Going-to-the-Sun and it's dug out of a cliff. It's seven miles long and a really awesome climb. Well, during the full moon of the summer we ride that road at midnight. It is breath taking and inspiring and all that stuff. Going up is not so scary because you are climbing slowly. BUT, coming down it is easy to reach very high speeds and those curves come up on you very fast. I use one of those really, really bright lights with the separate battery pack. It's so light out with the full moon that some even ride without lights. The one thing you really need for safety is a bright, big tail light so the speedos don't run into you. It's a wonder folks don't go over the edge!
WWhhhheeeeeeeee!!

Night riding can be much quieter and exhilarating.

Here is a link talking about the road with pictures.
www.nps.gov/archive/glac/history.htm

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10/14/08 10:53 A

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I bought lights yesterday. The start of my ride in isn't full light yet--it makes me feel better!

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10/10/08 4:55 P

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When I commute in to work I'm riding straight into the sunrise about halfway through my ride, at least I was last week.

I like the ride, but I need to bundle up more than I do for evening rides.

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I'll be trying it on the "dawn" side soon, with a morning commute. As soon as I get my lights...

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10/10/08 11:18 A

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Twilight riding - fun! Last Weds we did a post-practise cross race in the dark. Twisty, and turny with barriers to hop over just for the fun of it. I had lights and it was very "interesting". I can't imagine what it was like for the folk who didn't!



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we usually ride on the paved trail vs the road at dusk/dark. i have a pretty bright broad light and wear a blinker on the back of my jacket.
you feel like you are going so fast when you ride in the dark.
last year my boyfriend was riding in front of me, he may have been going 15-16mph, it was a curvy section, a raccoon ran right under his wheel and took him out. i saw the glowing eyes a second before he went down. he was shook up ( i am sure the raccoon was too!) but was okay and we rode home.
i am lucky to have a group of 3-5 people that will regularly ride. so far tues was my first night ride this year.

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10/9/08 11:30 A

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I don't group ride, but after dark is one of my favorite times to ride. The cooler temperatures mean I'm only exercising, and not overheating.

Anytime you might be sharing the road with cars the back light (usually red) is just as important as a front light.

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Well I had my first experience in a twilight/night riding on a road bike. I had to borrow lights.

Boy what an experience. It brings a whole new experience to cycling.

I also learned that a better lighting system well be very beneficial. The one rider had a dual light combination that literally lit up the road for us.

There were 5 of us on the ride. We rode 3 abreast and the last 2 rode behind but in between the front riders ( like a pyramid) You have to wonder what the oncoming cars thought when you see five lights coming at you. When a car was in back we went single file .... the one with the better illumination dropped to the back to light the rest of us up.

If you have never done this ... try it ... you will be amazed at how different the routes are at night.

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