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9/25/08 2:25 P

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I totally agree with DRUMMER - if you want to race then ride in a group outside. Spin class is great but racing a bike outside isn't all about fitness - the rest is bike handling and group riding know-how which only comes from riding in a group.

Saying that, if you want to do the spin route then you'd probably want a couple of classes on weekdays doing all the things that spin classes do. On the weekend you'd want one (or two) long classes where you do nothing but sit on the bike and pedal at a moderate intensity. This ride will give you the endurance that you need. However, the thought of spending a couple of hours on a spin bike fills me with dread.

This is what you should work up to. Start with one class during the week and one class at the weekend and work up.

I know that, say 1hr on a spin bike = 1:30 on the road but you need to get some road time in, especially for the long rides which I'd build to 3-3.5 hrs so that you can practise nutrition and hydration strategies as well as test your equipment.

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9/25/08 7:54 A

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At this stage I am pretty unfit and have a few kilograms to lose, with how many minutes should I start and how often, i want to do a race in mid November of 97kilometers under 4hours.

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9/24/08 11:46 P

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you also have to remember that spinning classes will NEVER take the place of riding on a road, you cannot simulate the open road conditions in doors and thus you may loose fitness doing spinning classes, while trying to keep up with cyclist on the road that are peddling at the same pace as your class =)

this is just from my own personal observations, and you have to remem ber that I am not a spinner but a climber who pushes big gears 53/39 in the front with an 11-25 cassette up 20% grades every other day

Edited by: DRUMMER8280 at: 9/24/2008 (23:45)
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9/24/08 8:39 P

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Yes, Spinning is a class you take at an indoor gym, on stationary bikes, with those pedals that have little "cages" over the platform - occasionally they'll have the lock-n-load clipless pedals

Cyclists on the road will frequently wear "clip shoes" where there is a cleat on the bottom of the toe of the shoe that locks into the pedal - called "clipless" pedals because they don't have the cages that we call "clips" - confusing to write, have the LBS show you.....

Just wait Dodge! There are so many things you can get into with cycling!

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9/23/08 5:37 P

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Ok I know I am old. But what is spinning, trying to figure out all the lingo here. I figure spinning is what a stationary bike? The clippies, etc. I have got to figure all the cycling lingo out for sure

The Picture on the left is my motivation to get in shape and lose weight!!!!!!!


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9/23/08 2:58 P

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I did some spin classes at the gym in the beginning of last winter and I have to say, they're..........OK.

The problem with spin classes at the gym is that they're more often than not led by instructors who aren't cyclists. This leads to you doing things on a spin bike that you'd never do on a normal bike (e.g. repeated short standing jumps with high cadence or hovers...)

Our triathlon club ran a spin session that was run by triathlon coaches and catered for us as well as cyclists and I found that a lot better.

Other than that, the fact that it's not your bike creates a lot of headaches - it took me a while to dial my measurements in on the spin bike. Also with the resistance knob you're never quite sure where you are with gearing which can pose a problem when you're climbing and then sprinting, etc.

I agree that SA isn't safe (I have a friend in Durban) but as the weather's probably good for cycling all throughout the year, I'd think seriously into looking for a cycling club to ride with. Not only will you get a decent dose of all zone riding, you'll learn pack riding and bike handling skills which will come in handy during a race!

In God we trust, all others bring data.
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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise.
-P.Z. Pearce

Specificity, specificity, specificity.
-Andy Coggan

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
9/23/08 1:28 P

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I would say that the spinning classes will keep you in shape. Depending on the instructor some of them make it realistic as if you were outside riding on a route and then there are others who I think are clueless to actual riding on a cycle. Perhaps this may be a mix from the instructor being road bike knowledge vs mountain bike knowledge for the various work out positions.

With that being said .... there is nothing that can prepare you better to ride your own bike other riding it and getting saddle time in. The only way to accomplish this is either buy a trainer or a set of rollers so that you are riding your bike exclusively.

You do get a good work out spinning

Since I know my weakness is hill climbing I will be concentrating on that more so in my spinning classes. The other aspect is increasing the size of the motors that propel the cycle .... thus, I will be concentrating on weight lifting in my lower body to build up the muscles. I will also be working on my abs to alleviate the back strain on some longer rides that I do as well.

Jim

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9/23/08 1:23 P

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Spinning is most definitely an intense work out which would increase your fitness in preparation for riding outdoors or racing. I agree with LOAFYLAW in that spinning is normally an hour long class at my gym and if you are training to do longer rides/races you will still need to spend more time on the bike to prepare (not only your fitness but your "seat" on the saddle!) But truly, spinning is intense. My first class I thought I would die and this was years ago when I was in much better shape! After a few classes I was already feeling much stronger and fitter. Spinning will whip you into shape very quickly - it is an incredible calorie burn if you really do what the instructor is doing (ie. intervals, standing up then sitting down, etc). I recommend spinning if there is any reason to keep you from riding outdoors. It's a great alternative.

You can also get a trainer to ride your bike at home. I do this occassionally but find that I don't last nearly as long on the bike because there is nothing to look at. That's the other component of spinning that was mentioned earlier, it's not as enjoyable as being out and enjoying the experience of cycling. But the spin classes I have taken they would turn out the lights and turn on black-lights in the room and it made for a different kind of experience that I found quite enjoyable. The music has to be good, it makes a huge difference!! So as with anything else, there is good and bad to anything. But in my opinion, spinning classes are fun and a VERY good workout.

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9/23/08 11:42 A

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I think spinning works pretty well to get you in shape and keep you in shape for road riding. It is more intense, but much shorter. Of course, since you are inside, it is much hotter and, for me, not quite as enjoyable. However, I trained for a century spinning exclusively until a month before the century (2 to 3 hour classes during the week and one two-hour class on the weekend) and it worked pretty well. When I restarted outside in the spring, I felt pretty ready.

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I have never done any spinning but am seriously considering it with Winter coming and the two diamondback rattlesnakes that where sunning themselves across my favorite bike trail on Sunday.
There are some very knowledgeable people here and I look forward to the responses too.
Thanks for the post!

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9/23/08 9:02 A

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Just getting into this and want to know if spinning gives you the same effect as cycling, as safety in South Africa is an issue and as a woman it is not safe to cycle alone. I want to start training for a race

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