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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
5/8/08 8:54 A

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Bob

Thanks ... for the insight and the evaluation of the shorts. I think I will start off with the Treks and if I have to do what you did then I will be able to justify to myself and others that I need to pay more to get more;-)

I may keep the older NASHbar as compression shorts. I do not think mine are that thin yet but if I go on a ride with the wife I'll have her draft me and have her check if things are showing that should not be.

Jim

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5/8/08 8:50 A

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Kjeanne

Thanks for the sites .... I knew of NASHBAR but was not aware of the others.

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5/7/08 9:52 P

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I love LOVE my Terry's bike shorts. They are comfy and padded in the right areas. Buy the best you can afford, they will repay you with chafe free riding.



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5/7/08 4:55 P

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Jim,

Your original post asked about shorts in the context of crotch numbness. If that's the case, I don't think you can spend too much money making yourself comfortable. They term family "jewels" is neither a coincidence nor a misnomer.

I started out using those $40 Trek club shorts (I couldn't justify spending the money either). 1000 miles later, I had to buy a second pair. After another 1000 miles, I finally got it and bought a pair of Gore shorts for $100. Those shorts, along with some chamois butter got me through my first century (I would have been mighty sore had I tried it wearing the Treks).

I used the old Trek shorts this past winter for indoor rides on the trainer (yes, they do become somewhat translucent). I also use them as compression shorts under regular gym shorts for running and hoops.

I think you'll be fine with the Treks. They will hold up for a few months and you've probably got other things to buy. Just know that when you start spending 10-15 hours a week on your bike, what seems comfortable now might not seem so then.

BTW, when you do buy the "good" shorts, consider bibs. They are much more comfortable.

Bob

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5/7/08 4:27 P

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I have shorts from Nashbar, Performance and Colorado Cyclist and the Performance Century is my overall favorite with a great balance between cost and "performance". I also have a pair of the Performance Elites and feel they're not worth the extra money over the Century. The extra stitching on the Elites can cause problems on my mt. bike seat. I bought the CC shorts because a few years ago they were rated the best. They're good, just not my favorites. All of these can typically be had for less than $50.

BTW: I have 2 pair of Nashbars, and my old 15+ year models are still one of my favorites! Minimal chamois & very comfortable fit. They are definitely thin though and I reserve their use for the indoor trainer at home.

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5/7/08 3:36 P

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Check out the discount bike shops online. I shop at:
www.nashbar.com
www.pricepoint.com
www.performancebike.com

All have great deals especially if you join their mailing lists. They span you with daily sales and shorts do go on sale often.

Good to hear you are planning to buy new shorts. Once to wear them you'll wonder why you waited so long to buy them.

I have also ridden behine someone with very worn paper thin shorts. Not a nice thing to stare at during a training ride.

Do not look where you fell, but where you slipped.
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
5/7/08 2:08 P

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W

Thanks for the compliment ..... i think :-) LOL

I think there were some Treks at the LBS for $40 which I would be willing to pay. But now I know what to look for in a pr. I know the wife will want me to check for better deals where I can.

Jim

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5/7/08 1:58 P

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Jim:
Don't be a cheapskate, and get new shorts. Shorts, like bikes, have come a long way in the 20 years that you've been away and they're leaps and bounds better nowadays. Besides, yours should be getting a bit transparent by now and as DRC says, riding behind someone's practically bare a$$ is not a pretty sight.

You don't have to start with the expensive shorts, but in general the more expensive ones are better - more panels, better chamois etc. However, everyone has their personal preference in shorts I think. I'm not a big fan of Pearl Izumi stuff - I have a pair of Tri shorts and while they're good, they're a bit overpriced for me. I did get them in a sale at a pretty good price. I'd balk at paying $120 for shorts, however if they're $50-$70, then I'd do it.


EDITED to add - my first shorts were an MEC own-brand pair for $35 and I still like them a lot.... However, they're nowhere near as comfy as any of the others.

Edited by: WONGERCHI at: 5/7/2008 (13:58)
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5/7/08 12:12 P

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If I was still riding in Nashbar shorts that I had for 20 years, I would check to make sure you can't see through the fabric when they are stretched across you in the bright sunlight. Especially before you do any group rides...

Speaking from experience of riding behind someone with old cycling shorts. It wasn't pretty, but it *did* motivate me to lead the paceline...

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5/7/08 10:04 A

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At some point you just have to believe YOU are WORTH the investment. You are more likely to make the biking an active lifestyle choice rather than a passing phase if you have the correct, comfortable, quality equipment. I read one article that said quality in bike shorts starts at about $120, I haven't spent that but didn't hesitate at $70. One good pair of high quality is worth more that 3 pairs of cheapies - think value recieved for the money.

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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
5/7/08 9:01 A

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I like the advice on the thread but I'm really having issues with justifying the cost. I think may be I will ride more in the summer and prove to myself that this is not a fad in my life but a healthy phase in my life and buy the Izumis.

I have Father's Day in June and my B'day in Oct.

Unless of course something mysteriously happens to my Bike Nashbar shorts that I have had for the last 20 yrs?????;-) LOL

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5/6/08 2:13 P

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I can vouch for the pearl Izumis. They are very expensive, but they make a huge difference and mine have held up very well. I have had them around 4 years and they still look new. Just be sure to wash them according to tag.

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5/5/08 5:08 P

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For me, that would be, those shorts that hug my legs and are tight enough but comfortable at the same time. Like the stretchy kind. Walmart has 'em. At least here in Indy they do :)......

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5/5/08 11:30 A

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After 4 years of riding, I finally purchased a pair of Terry shorts. The chamois on my previous pair of shorts was one thickness, and basically a giant maxi pad. It wasn't that great, but I didn't know any better! The Terry chamois is narrower and less bulky, it is contoured and has more padding at the sit bones, etc- I will never go back!

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5/5/08 9:26 A

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Another point about cheap shorts that I learned on group ride: The lycra becomes very sheer with a few washings. In other words, those riding beind you (or approaching in cars) get a clear view of what you wear--or more frequently don't wear--beneath those shorts!

So in addition to the comfort of expensive shorts, you won't show the world your, um, assets.

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I argee: spend the big $$$ for the best pair of shorts you can afford. I got cheap shorts at first then kept going back to buy more expense shorts until I got a pait of $120 pearl izumi's. They was worth every $$ I paid and look as good as the first day I wore them 3 years ago. I good pair of shorts makes a big difference but you also need that fitting and a good saddle too. Don't let your LBS talk you out of a fitting and saddle.

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5/4/08 12:44 P

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My husband won't ride without bike shorts unless he's commuting to work in his uniform but that is only 2 miles away. I don't use bike shorts as I haven't ridden enough to justify them. I use regular exercise pants which works for me with my bike. I don't get numbness on my good bike, only on the cheep stationary.

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5/4/08 10:12 A

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In answer to the bike shorts question. After purchasing my first pair of bikes shorts last year; and riding serious miles, all I can say is they make the ride much more pleasurable. I've ridden in 3 metric rides in the past year and would say it is worth the price for a good pair. I prefer Descante for comfort for 66 miles or more; Pearl Izuma is recommended, also. Enjoy the Ride!

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5/4/08 2:21 A

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I hate to tell you this because I felt exactly the same way as you do about bike shorts- $70 seemed like way too much. The first pair I bought were pretty cheap but they didn't do much for me, and I experienced some chaffing. It really is worth it to fork over the extra dough for a really nice pair of bike shorts. You'll use them for a long time and they will really make a difference in your comfort. You can check on websites for clearance or sales shorts that have been marked down some, or you can buy at full price. But honestly, you're better off buying 1 really good pair of bike shorts than buying a cheap pair, being unhapy, and THEN buying an expensive pair. Unfortunately I can't give any brand recommendations because I wear Terry shorts and that's a women's brand. But look for minimal seams (the less seams, the better). I've attached a link that has a pretty good guide for buying bike shorts. wheelandsprocket.com/page.cfm?pageID
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
5/4/08 1:13 A

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This was asked in my bike tune up and thought the question would be lost so I'm asking it now:

What is a good pair of shorts???? Currently, I have a pr of Bike Nashbar shorts about 15 yrs or so old. These have a cotton felt lining.

The LBS recommended Perl (sp) but at $70 I can not justify ... there were some Trek's around $40.00??

What should I look for in shorts. The LBS recommended that I buy a good quality pr of bike riding shorts to correct my crotch numbness vs looking at a new saddle right away. Would this help resolve the issue? Or am I better off investing in a new saddle if I can not correct the issue through the seat tilt fix???

Thanks,

Jim

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