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9/27/11 7:06 P

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Thank you so much for the gardening tips - that is fantastic help! I don't live right on the coast (I wish!) - I live about an hour from it, to the east. I think I'm actually on the dividing line between zones 7 and 8, so it probably could go either way. Rhubarb is a great idea, too - I might also try some Spanish lavender, if it's perennial. Part of my frugalist attitude is telling me it is costly to replant year after year, so perennials are the way to go!

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9/27/11 2:43 P

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I just use scrap boards lying around in my barns or sheds. makes the garden area look pretty shabby for awhile, though...If you plan on balcony gardening, rhubarb would be agood container plant to grow. Be sure to use aged compost, and you will be rewarded year after year.
Where on the coast do you live? I'm just 70 miles from Newport.


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9/27/11 2:32 P

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That is a really good idea! What thickness of boards do you use, does it matter?

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9/27/11 2:27 P

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You mentioned you live on the Or. coast, so we are in the same Zone...I have an interesting way to plant carrots. When the carrot site is tilled, i broadcast seed ontop of the ground, then lay boards over the seed, and keep the boards wet. Starting about 5 or 6 days after seeding, I check each day under the boads to see if the carrots have germinated, starting to grow...when they have, I remove the boards...no digging rows, no covering up with dirt...I have many shortcuts like that and have 'usually' great results. My fall planting of carrots are covered before the first frost with several inches of straw or leaves. So is any garlic I plant in the Fall.

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9/27/11 10:15 A

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That is pretty cool! I was just reading the Spark Weekly, and now I am definitely considering maybe some carrots and garlic. I don't think we get our first frost until pretty late, but I will need to check on that, to be sure. That Oregon Extension link is awesome. :)

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9/27/11 10:05 A

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I've had bok choy freeze solid in my garden, thaw out, and continue growing. With a bit of heavy row cover, you might be able to go most of the winter.

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9/26/11 10:25 P

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Yes, definitely - and thank you all, again, for so many helpful suggestions!

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Lauri, wishing you success in your certified gardner challenges. You should do well.





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9/26/11 6:44 P

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I love swiss chard and here in zone 6 I have been able to grow it right up till Thanksgiving. I am going to be looking into Japanese greens as I have been eating some from the farmers market and they told me they will grow here in very cold weather. I need to check it out to see just what I can grow in my small garden. I am looking forward to starting the master gardeners certification program in the next week or so.

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9/24/11 10:29 P

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Wow, that is really neat, about the peels! Thanks very much for giving me some additional direction - I really appreciate it!

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9/24/11 3:44 P

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i live in oregon too, in the Willamette Valley. I'm a master gardener and what you should do is contact your county's extension office and ask for either the agricultural agent or for a master gardener volunteer....if they can't answer your questions about balcony gardening, then they should point you to someone who can. Good luck!! I first read about 100 pounds of spuds in a barrel way back in the '70's in a Mother Earth magazine article...always had my own acreage, so never tried it, but it's hard to believe one could grow 100 pounds of full size potatoes in a barrell...a grandchild planted potato peelings in a big black plastic pot this last Spring and she got 17 nice Yukon Gold's. They were planted in aged compost from one of my compost bins, and that's why she had a good crop...that and watering at the right time...
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9/24/11 2:33 P

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Container gardening is all the rage right now. Good for you, sounds like you have just the right light to grow.

I would just have a moment of thought before I did the potato's. That is a lot of weight. Think of the soil and water, the box you build and if you are going for a 100 pounds of spuds, add that weight to the rest of your containers on your balcony plus the weight of a couple of human's!! Yikes.

If you Google container gardening you will find some great ideas. I am away from my home at the moment and I can't remember the name of the book I tend to follow. He talks about getting multiple crops in the same container. I will post the name of the book in about a week. This book has great information. Perhaps you could borrow some books from the library too. This is so much cheap than buying! LOL

This is a great topic, we all need to plan for the next growing season, 2012!

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How about some swiss chard or kale.. I think both or eithr would do well in containers in small area. I have also put some yellow squash in 'late' and still had a good return.
Parsley, chives and cilantro are small and potable..........

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9/24/11 12:30 P

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Great suggestions, Alan - I love radishes, and hadn't even thought of those. Thank you!

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I have no idea what zone 8 is. Also I think in metric measurements so I'm lost on how you described the space.
There may be a few things you can grow indoors, or outdoors and turn over quickly. You can grow buckwheat or sunflower greens in about 10-14 days in very shallow soil, surely even at this time of year.
I have had some success with leafy vegetables on my balcony in pots and planters. In my case Ceylon spinach, kang kong, pak choi, Okinawan spinach. I'd say find something you like and that should suit your climate. It's relatively easy to keep them bug free on balconies and they do okay without much direct sun. Remember the microclimate of your balcony is probably a bit warmer than an open field.
For root veg try something like radishes (small round red variety) which are delicate enough to grow in shallow pots. Leaves are tasty too :-)
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9/24/11 10:38 A

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Hello, all! I am in Zone 8 (Oregon, near the coast), and I'm looking for ideas for a higher-yield balcony garden.

Details: We like all herbs and most vegetables. We have a 13' balcony with a railing, about 3' wide worth of planter area, between brackets and boards we can use to balance planters (so, about 3 normal planters' depth worth of space from the outside edge). The balcony is in full sun from May through October (mild temps, usually in the 70s - only hot for about 3 weeks in August).

What I would like would be a garden that would give us a good amount of veggies for our space, and maybe any ideas you have for maximizing the space. For the last couple of years, we've grown tomatoes (right-side up), some squash and also some Vidalia onions, but those last two didn't yield all that much, so we're wanting to change it up a bit next year. Obviously, tall crops (like corn) are out, and many root veggies and vines (like carrots and beans), we simply don't have the room for. These would have to be more shallow crops. Quite a challenge, right?

I've seen the tutorial for growing 100 lbs of potatoes in a barrel ( lifehacker.com/5202849/grow-100-lbs-
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What other successes have you had or suggestions might you have for this situation? I have only done this a couple of years, so I am no master gardener, which is why I'm turning to this board for ideas. Thanks in advance for any help!

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