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8/17/12 11:05 A

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Much thanks to Coach Nancy, to Jane, and to Ken. for now, i am, as the PT said, adding 2-3 minutes per run, which is what i would be doing for recovery if i weren't thinking about doing the race. i am also walking a lot before and after once a week, to build mileage back up. IF i feel healthy and strong and have not had any pain in the interim and think i can finish in less than 4 hours, then and only then will i try it (and if there's pain then, i'll stop, even if it feels wimpy). and i ordered a copy of Galloway's Running Till You're 100. and I am listening very carefully to my body, except when it tells me i can do more than the schedule says. i'll just have to deal with the uncertainty -- at least i am starting to run again and it feels great.

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8/14/12 11:08 A

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Best wishes for a successful event STRIVER57.

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8/14/12 9:13 A

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i think those points are very valid too -- Jane's and Coach Nancy's.
the race is not particularly walker-friendly, but it appears that you have a good four hours to finish ... and that the part that needs to be done fastest is the first 6 km (in a little over an hour; if you haven't finished them at that point, you get moved to the sidewalk is all -- not fun but not disastrous).
i care about being a lifetime runner. i also care about learning my limitations -- and learning to live with them.
i've been run/walking since the most recent restart, last week. i think/hope i can safely work up to at least 6 km of walk/run in 8 weeks, and walk most of the rest. i do realize i need to do everything slowly and stop the second i feel any pain. so i recognize that going with this plan leaves everything up in the air and uncertain (and i hate uncertainty) and that it means the race will not be the race i wanted, even if i do it and finish it. but my PT thinks this drastically lowered expectation is a very good idea -- better than stopping for a while (i did specifically ask) -- and i think it will be good for me to go for the best i can do while accepting my limitations -- even if it's not what i expected to be able to do 2 months ago, what i was hoping and dreaming of doing.


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8/13/12 6:41 P

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Hi Jane,

You made some really valid points. As my running coach once asked me when I had to drop out of my first half marathon due to an injury that came up 3 days before, "Is your goal to be a life-long runner or a once in a lifetime runner?"

That was well over 5 years ago and I have since completed 20 half-marathons and 1 full (training for my second) and while I was highly disappointed, I have never regretted my decision, even though at the time I was heart-broken.

Remember too, that as much as many of us don't like to admit, master runners need longer time to recover so with less than 8 weeks (including a taper which you will not have time to incorporate), your leaving yourself vulnerable to injury.

Take care!

Coach Nancy

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8/13/12 6:32 P

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For me it would not be realistic. I know I would be asking for trouble. However, I am that person who once I start I will not stop unless they have to carry me off the race. So I would hurt myself. If you however, are going with the intention of stopping when you get pain then perhaps you can do it.

You are running 2.5 right now. A half marathon is over 21k. 8 weeks is not much time to get prepared. Does the race have a time limit. What is the time limit? If it is over 4 hours then you could easily walk it at a fairly reasonable pace. When you run your 2.5k are you doing walk intervals? Are you straight running. If you are running straight and start doing walk/run intervals it is pretty easy to increase your milage.

So I have to say it seems pretty unrealistic to me. But if you are willing to stop when things start to hurt even if you only can do half the race then you could try it. Just don't push yourself. I would suggest increasing your milage slowly again and run that part of the race and then just walk the rest but you also have to work on your walking distance. So run 3 days a week and perhaps you could do a long walk one day. Just my opinion. I had to quit running for nearly a year because I pushed myself when I should not have.

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8/13/12 4:54 P

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I was never athletic until i started running in April 2011 (at the age of 59). i have always had a problem distinguishing hypochrondria, wimpiness, and laziness from pain.
Back in March, when my long runs were up to about 7 miles (at about 12:40 min/mile for long runs), i signed up for the royal parks half marathon with Lizalot and her daughter as a charity runner for Oxfam (committing to raise at least 300 ). by June 3, I was up to 10.6 miles (all at slow increases, never more than 10% a week), at slighly under 12 min/mile. On June 4, my hip started to hurt during a run to a group run at the end of 5 k, i gave up and walked (limped home).
I've done what i was told, seen the doctor, the PT, a sports doctor, followed instructions, stopped running for 3.5 weeks twice (because the first time the pain started up again). diagnosis is tendonitis of the gluteus medius. walking caused discomfort as well (but not using my ancient nordic track ski machine, which has no impact because you never lift or put down your feet ).
so 3 days ago, i ran again, so to speak: 10 min at 30/30 intervals. no pain or even twinges while running, some twinges later. 2 days after that, 15.5 min, at the same intervals, no pain or twinges while running, somewhat more twinges later.
i don't care (much) about my time anymore. i'd like to do a real walk/run pace with a reasonable amount of running, but mostly i want to go and do it and finish it, regardless. also fundraise more rather than having to pay the balance myself (and feeling i have to offer to repay the people who made contributions, although i'm sure most will say no).
i do understand that i have to stop running at any point that i feel pain or even more than slight twinges. and that if that happens, i can't run the half (though maybe i could walk it). what i don't know is if it's realistic to even try training to run for it it's 8 more weeks, and i'm running 2.5 k right now (but i have kept up cardio and ST and i am stronger than that): is there any possibility that i can get my distance back up to 10 or 11 miles in that amount of time without re-injury? what kind of schedule would make sense. and is it likely i can try at any point to move my running intervals higher than 30 seconds? if my long run is a run/walk for a given period and a walk for the rest ???
i know none of you are my doctor or my PT or my coach. this race is very important to me, but so is being able to get back to running regularly and healthily. what do you think is reasonable to try or unreasonable to try?
(cross posted to blog and running teams)

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