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1/30/11 11:14 P

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Exactly Toni and Ann.

And I always add a ton more veggies to almost all the dishes that call for veggies. For instance the green bean bake in the Across America book, I feel has more then enough sauce and crispy onions for at least 4 cans of green beans instead of the 2 called for. And no one ever complains, it stretches the dish at least 2 more if not more servings, and again less of the "soup" and "unclean" food per a person/serving.

I also always usually use the healthiest version of whatever ingredient called for, as long as it's in my budget and convenient enough. IE I always use smart taste pasta cause it has fiber, instead of regular white pasta with out fiber. I also always use brown rice instead of white if it calls for rice, sometimes even quinoa instead of rice all together! A lot of times I use frozen or fresh veggies instead of canned. But, I must admit my family loves canned green beans so we do eat a lot of them! lol hahaha

But, the other day when we had tuna noodle casserole, I added a little bit of frozen peas, and also fresh steamed broccoli as a side dish.

I've also learned to JoAnna-ize recipes after so much of using hers. Funny thing though, she redid about all my families favorites, and a few I didn't think I would like by looking at the recipe, but I figured if Jo wrote it it was probably good so go ahead and give it a go and now they are in our family favorites list! lol hahaha



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1/30/11 6:20 P

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I agree that many of the recipes are starting points for me--like today, I made the Tomato Mushroom Chicken soup from the December 2000 newsletter. But instead of canned mushrooms, I used a half cup of thickly chopped fresh mushrooms. Since Jo's Spices Italian seasoning isn't available, I added a teaspoon of dried chopped onions and a minced clove of fresh garlic to the Italian seasoning I have in the pantry. The recipe called for a cup of Minute Rice; I used Uncle Ben's instant brown rice instead and reduced the amount to 1/4 cup dry (which cooks up to 1/2 cup). And for color and added nutrition, I added a half bag of baby spinach at the very last minute. But as was said, JoAnna always encouraged her readers to do that so as to appeal to their family's tastes and health needs. And what's great is that now, I can "JoAnna-ize" many non-healthy recipes on my own, now that I've cooked so long with the HE recipes.

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1/30/11 11:17 A

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As stated earlier, if someone has a problem with JoAnna's use of canned soups, processed foods, and artificial sweeteners - then I understand their position. As for me, I don't have a problem using those items and so far I have lost 17 pounds. I LOVE JoAnna's recipes. Especially the desserts. LOL

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1/30/11 1:44 A

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Yes exactly what Ann said.

I'm with Ann here, as well. I don't mind using canned soups, or splenda. (the all natural stevia causes miscarriages-contractions and as long as I'm of child bearing age, I don't want to risk that, but after child bearing is over for me, I may change, but till then I'm find with using splenda). So far I have seen no bad effects on my health due to such. Again I think it's the small amounts divied up. And I have to think shirley it's better for me then the mc donald's and other such fast food is. The reason I choose JoAnna's recipes is they are ones that my family will happily eat, taste good, and keep my blood glucose in check along with my weight!

However, I do understand why others would want to eat cleaner. I really don't have that kind of willpower, or family that would go along with it. lol My husband would probably rather just cut out his tongue! lol haha But, I've done the "clean" eating diets in the past, and was really find with them for a while. But, then after a while I started wanting my favorite foods which were things with canned soup. lol haha

But, as Ann said, if that was the review, a warning that these books maybe not suited for "clean" eaters. That would be ok with me. It was the inediable, etc reviews that bothered me. And especially the one that eluded there was hidden reasons why she named name brands, (like she was being paid or something!).

Any way...all that being said, when I added my review I clearly stated many of the recipes are just my starting off point, like they are for you Paulissa. I don't always make all the recipes exactly as is. And in fact that's what JoAnna said to do, to make adjustment to you and your families liking. I find the recipes very inspirational for me to conform to my families favorites.

IE I always add a ton of garlic and onions to almost all the savory recipes, weather they call for it or not. Cause that's just my families taste.

For instance when I made the tuna noodle casserole, I used the same amounts of noodles, tuna, soup, etc called for. But, I added onions (chopped, not just the freeze dried, I always keep chopped onions n the freezer!), onion powder, garlic powder, and a bit of dry mustard powder. With out the extra seasonings I add, I must admit I find the recipes a bit bland. But, with the extra seasonings me and my whole family love them. However, with out the base recipe to start me off, I would be totally lost! And we would be eating a lot of boring boiled chicken breast, and brown rice! UHG! lol haha



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1/29/11 1:27 P

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As you say, not everything is right for every person. If you're trying to follow the "clean eating" philosophy or if you have certain dietary issues, I can see that HE recipes as is may not work for you. And pointing out that JoAnna used a lot of canned soups, etc., and sugar substitutes is something people probably would like to know, so they can make an informed decision. I personally agree with JoAnna about sugar substitutes, but if one believes that they're harmful, one may not want to use HE recipes for that reason. And if someone gave the books a negative review based on her use of processed food, okay, I can see that, as long as the reviewer stated clearly that that was the issue.

The negative reviews weren't about that, though, by and large. The ones I read were saying that the recipes were mediocre and uninspired and that they made inedible food. And that's what I have trouble with.

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1/29/11 7:49 A

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The tinkyada noodles are very good and don't break down as much as some of the other brands. I don't use any product that has any kind of soy, whether it be protein or lecithin due to my endo.

The nice thing is that the recipes are fairly easy to modify. The biggest issue I've had is in swapping out for the splenda and sugar twin. It's slowly getting easier. We have to remember that at the time Jo's books were written, we didn't know as much about the dangers of these artificial foods.

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I have to jump in here a little. While the diabetic exchange diet is very healthy and Joanna's recipe were low in calories and good in terms of fruit and veggie use, they also use foods that are full of chemicals, corn syrup, allergens and fake sugars which are sometimes more dangerous than refined. And if you're gluten or dairy free, the simple recipes get a lot more complicated if you want to avoid the canned soups, etc. That being said, with a little experimentation I am able to sub honey or agave for the sugar, gluten free flour, almond milk in place of the nonfat dry milk and I make my own chemical free cream soups to use in recipes.

I have many Joanna recipes that I love and I make adjustments as I can to meet my needs. I will head over to Amazon and put some reviews up. Bottom line is, we all choose the plans and foods that work for us and feed our families well without making us feel that we are being deprived. Without Joanna, I never would have learned proper portion sizes. I measure everything and use exchanges to do so. Thank goodness for the knowledge I have gained through her gift to the world.

Paulissa

Working out teaches me about challenging, yet being patient with myself.

"The only way you can hurt the body is not use it. Inactivity is the killer and, remember, it's never too late." ~ Jack Lalanne

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1/28/11 3:01 P

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Thanks Anne, I didn't go on to the other books cause I wanted to be in a better head space before I did! lol Good to know!

Well, at least it motivated me to get back with updating my blog! lol haha



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1/28/11 12:40 P

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When I looked through the reviews of all her books, I saw there were more positive reviews--I also noticed that there's someone who posted practically the same negative review for every book I looked at. I suspect that someone just had a problem with HE for some strange reason.

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1/28/11 1:51 A

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Thanks Louise!

I don't know a whole lot about glutton, however, I know the grain Quinoa is glutton free. It just started being sold in our regular grocery stores (not health food store) bulk section! And it's only like 4 dollars a pound that way! (it's usually like 7.50 a lb in a box, not in bulk). I use it in place of rice in dishes and love it! I don't like rice too much and had been avoiding Jo's recipes with rice, as my husband and I neither one like rice, but we both like quinoa, so there's our answer!

Also there is brown rice noodles and quinoa noodles both sold at this same market. I bed there will be more and more shapes on both of these made, since glutton intolerance seems to be a bigger and bigger problem.

Personally from the get go of doing Jo's recipes, if it was for a asian (chinese) type food I always used the rice noodles as my husband and family all prefer the rice noodles in chinese food (yeah funny we don't like rice but like rice noodles, I think it has to do with texture, not taste!). And they all come out awesome that way!

That being said we don't have much glutton problems in our immidiate family. There's a few family members who have some, but only one who has celiac, every one else can tolerate it with out being severely sick, but must limit consumption of it any way. Thankfully so far like I said my immideate family doesn't have problems with glutton so we eat it pretty often. However, ever since Smart Taste pasta came out, I right away started using it in place of regular pasta and we love it can't tell a difference. You can't have the smart taste pastas though if you can't have glutton, but my point is, we've traded ingredients like that often, with out having a bad effect on the end product. It always seems to come out good, no matter what we exchange for the ingredients we don't want to use and/or would rather use.

I know some of Jo's recipes call for not so healthy ingredients, but in small portions and combined with the healthiest versions of the ingredients available-ie brown rice noodles instead of regular rice noodles, or Smart Taste (high fiber) pasta in place of "white" pasta. I think we don't forgo taste, while making it very healthy, and much more livable-IE we can stick with it! Sure their may be a can of cream of mushroom soup in there, but divided between 6 people, and a ton of good for you veggies thrown in, and healthy high fiber pasta for the pasta, or Quinoa for the rice, and we have a really healthy over all meal, with just enough of the "bad" stuff for the family to actually LIKE it and want to eat it.

I remember in the past when I was growing up my mom making food that was disgusting to try to lose weight. We never stayed on those diets more then a few weeks. Every one whined and complained the whole time, and poor mom along with the rest of us suffered through meals of nastiness that she had really worked hard to make. UHG, I'm so glad Jo came along those days are long gone, and now the whole family is happy to eat healthy! And we all stay healthy with out giving up the pleasure of eating!



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1/28/11 12:15 A

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Heather, I totally agree with you. JoAnna's recipes
helped me with my Diabetes. I am actually trying to make some gluten-free. I would have been upset also
if I had read bad even nasty reviews and only one good one. At least on this Team and the other JoAnna's team, you know that we love JoAnna's recipes. She was like a close friend. I don't blame
you for getting upset. I am glad you are feeling better now.
GOD BLESS!
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1/27/11 9:11 P

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I just want to say I'm feeling much better now. I was just so upset at first. I really love JoAnna. She was like a close friend, even though she really didn't know ME. I feel very indebted to her. If it wasn't for her recipes, I wouldn't of lost 100 lbs, nor been able to get completely off insulin for over 5 years! If I hadn't found her recipes there would of been no way I would of been able to stick with the American Diabetic Association diet at all!



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1/27/11 9:07 P

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Sorry, I'm feeling better now. I was just a little upset that there was like 6 bad reviews, (kind of mean and nasty at that!) and only like on good review! It wasn't as much of a "defend" her as, I was just upset people would read 6 bad reviews and only one good one and think they aren't good books, when in my opinion they are the best "healthy" recipes out there.

As was said, so far they are the only ones (with exception of a few Richard Simmons ones, but only a FEW of them) that my family actually asks for! And like!

I'm feeling better now. I would of been probably ok with it, if only a few had been bad and there was lots of good ones. But, so many bad nasty ones, and even insinuating she had ulterior motives for listing name brands, kind of got me upset!

Like I said, I think every one is entitled to their own opinion, just made me sad that that people had to be so nasty when it's not even true! And that there just didn't seem to be any one who wrote any good reviews either.



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1/27/11 7:55 P

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Gee, Heather I don't think you need to defend Joanna. I know not what you read on Amazon but I guess some people like to be cranky or just like to rabble rouse to see their name in print. That's just nutty. Probably the nasty person has never made one of JoAnna's recipes or had to lose weight and eat healthy.

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1/27/11 6:38 P

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Bottom line on JoAnna's recipes--I lost a heckuva lot of weight using her recipes and kept most of it off for 10 years. And my family likes the food. I personally think that since she was never gimmicky she's an easy target for people who want to tout the _diet_ they're currently trying. When I get a chance I will write a good review, not to defend JoAnna but because there's somebody out that could be helped by her cookbooks.

When I say my family likes the food--my daughter tells me that my son in law, who's got a birthday coming up, would really like me to make a batch of double chocolate banana muffins (from Straight from the Hearth) for his birthday "cake".

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1/27/11 4:56 P

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I above all people believe every one is allowed to have their own opinions.

Today I am making Tuna Noodle Casserole from Cooking healthy Across America. Belle's asleep and Lela is sick. Belle is in my lap, and I didn't want to get up and wake her up, especially with cranky pants (sickly) Lela. lol haha So I thought I would do a google search and see if I could find the recipe online and get a basic run down of what I need to do to get ready to make it tonight. Which took me to Amazon, which I read some very disturbing reviews, right down mean.......got me so upset. I love JoAnna and her recipes so much. She only had like one good review then some tearing into her and the book. (like saying there was some hidden reason for her calling for name brand ingredients). Maybe I'm not in a good space right now, but I felt like I needed to defend her and her recipes. UHG. The bad reviews wouldn't have bothered me so much if there had been enough good ones to over shadow them. Just made me sad that hardly any good ones and some horrible ones are there.

Any way, I decided I better come back over here and get amongst my JoAnna loving friends!

I also want to say you don't have to "defend" JoAnna but if you do have any of the books on Amazon of Jo's and you like them, why not go over there and leave a positive review?

*sigh* Glad this team exist for those of us who love Healthy Exchanges recipes!



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