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Good for you Sarah. Keep up the good work.

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4/21/13 2:00 P

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Hi: I'm not sure if this is the correct thread for me to post on. I saw many of you take blood pressure meds and I do too. They put me on bp meds during regulat routine check-up. I was in the gray zone as the doc said. Since I had superfisical blood clots during two of my pregnancies the doc thought it would be best as a pre-caution. Then as the life and weight crept up the higher dosages came along with it. There was a period of time where they put me on two different kinds of bp meds. I got to make a long story short or you might be reading all day. It will be two summer this year I had blood clots in my gallbadder; they put in a stunt. Anyway...since all that excitement I have lost 144 pounds and I have much more to go. Last doc visit she lower the meds. I only need to take one pill a day now. She is optismtic that if I keep losing the weight and of course following doctor's care I should be off the meds. So it is a goal I'm working on. Loved reading all your posts, I Learned quite a bit so thanks for the insight. Chat more when I can...Sarah

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4/21/13 2:07 A

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I don't know what is going to happen. I have my mother's medical condition for night spikes (where your blood pressure spikes very high at night) She's had it ALL her adult life and she actually has been at right weight all her life. I developed the daily high blood pressure problem as my weight moved over the 250 lbs. My goal is to get back down below 250 so at least one of the meds I am taking will go away (on a very low dosage to start with) but I doubt I will be able to get off the one for the night spikes.

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4/3/13 6:01 A

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loosing weight does help.

i have not gained a pound in over a year.

i gave up sugar and grain products and lost 44 pounds at age 61.

my sister lost 105 pounds at age 63 by walking 15000 steps a day and has not gained a pound back either in over a year

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4/1/13 9:00 A

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Very good point, Bebarb !!! I know what you mean some meds can do more damage than good at times but it is a catch 22 you have to take it . Bebarb if you are off the meds that cause the kidney disease to help the disease not to worsen don't eat too many prepacked food stay away from them that is what a kidney doctor told me once also the less sodium prepackage food does a load of damaged to kidneys . I didn't have real bad kidney disease it was stage 2 but it is so much healthier now because I did away with lots of foods that can be harmful not to just kidneys but to your over all health like colon, heart and liver. You have to really think what you are putting in your mouth before you do it.

Any way . Every one have a great week Hope you all had a wonderful Easter. Chat with you all later. take care - one day at a time.


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3/31/13 6:25 P

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Even if we can' t get off of them completely, I think it's important to try to lower the dosage as much as possible through diet and exercise. All medicine is bad for you in some way, including diuretics, which damage the kidneys. After years of being on HCT I now have chronic kidney disease which I might have developed anyhow but the HCT probably helped it along.

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3/31/13 5:57 P

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All we can do is take it one day at at a time and do the best we can.

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3/30/13 9:17 A

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Good Morning Ladies and Irishwhisper - Wendy You are so right and I understand exactly what you are saying about taking care of our bodies and please don't misunderstand my wordings but I do know if we take care od ourselves and do and eat the right food we can get off a lot of meds. Some meds we may never get off of depending on our heredity and our need and you are right But I am a believer on exercise and eating right will help you be healthy.
Wendy I like you last sentence if we start today just think what a year will do I hope I am still on this thread and posting to you all about our challenges and goals. emoticon emoticon and we will all be ther healthier for it!!! Stay in touch!! Rita


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3/29/13 10:52 P

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Hi Rita! This is irish.whisper aka Wendy. Thanks for your response and congratulations to you. I sincerely hope that I did not infer to anyone that meds were not or never needed. They do save lives and all the changes in the world for some is not enough. My cardiologist confided to me that doctors have a nickname for patients who will not take care of themselves...the 'jiffy lube' group that expect they can ignore or mistreat their bodies and then expect the jiffy lube doctors to fix all with a pill. I truly believe if we want to effect change in our healthcare crisis, we have to acknowledge our part and our increasing expectation for fixes after the fact instead of being proactive. We know some food is poison....Well, some foods are medicine also. We are a great group of women and I celebrate all of you. I think of Easter and this season as a rebirth in so many ways and that includes all of us!!!! Just think where we will all be next Easter!!!!!

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3/29/13 9:08 A

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Wow
I am with a great bunch of smart ladies here in this group and yes you all give great info and it is true I like what you all said but irish whisper that was the best and I think most people need to hear that and there is living proof to it,
If you change your lifestyle and you lose the weight and your number for bp , cholesteral , and all the rest are doing great then any doctor should decrease and even get you off if he is any kind of doctor I trust mine and I have gotten off of some of my meds and cut a lot in half something are heredity but you can do some thing to change .
I hope we can keep this thread going ans keep being supportive of each other. All of you sound like a great bunch to help each stay on target.
My name is Rita today I am healthier than when I was 50 I had a massive heart attack and my doctor told me to lose weight eat the right kinds of food, exercise daily, and quit smoking and main thing no red meat. more fish , and everything fresh. I have done that and found spark people and like I said I am healthier. I still take some meds but I am on my way of possibly getting off some of them I have gotten off some already. It can be done you just got to want to. Have a great Friday everyone and weekend Happy Easter to you all. take care hope to hear form you .


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3/28/13 11:33 P

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Yes, it is very possible for most people!!! It is also possible to NEVER begin the meds, make the commitment to respect our bodies and be proactive in minimizing and/or eliminating lifestyle conditions. I am not sermanzing, I had high blood pressure, high cholesterol (except of course the good kind...LOL), I was obese, stressed and smoked. Then I had an AFIB attack and had a cardio conversion....basically stop the heart and then start it back up....sort of a reboot. MY doctors including the cardiologist never told me to change anything (except always the smoking) but wrote me five prescriptions for all the above. I only began the baby aspirin and never filled the scripts. But I did stop treating my body like a garbage can, stopped smoking and got back to my meditiation and vegetarian eating.....Voila!!!, at my 90 day checkup, all was well!!! I did ask why they didn't scold me for all my previous choices and all three doctors in three different clinics said PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD DO AND WE HAVE GIVEN UP IN SCOLDING, SCARING AND THREATENING. And I agree with them. Aperson must be living underground if they are not aware of the costs and hazards of smoking, junk food, lack of exercise, supersized meals, sugar and carb addictions, stress and abuse of alcohol and drugs. I would have loved to blame someone but couldn't bring myself to continue a crazy lifestyle and medicate for it. That was almost two years ago and Spark People is my help with the last of my obstacles, getting the weight off. Believe in yourself, accept help, work it in all ways and make changes slowly and forever. And Good Luck. I wanna die jumping from a plane or getting run over in Hong Kong....not stressing out crossing the street smoking after leaving McDonald's......how about you????

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3/28/13 11:14 P

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It's great to learn a bit more about this; my dr never really said anything beyond giving me medication and then increasing it. He never once suggested losing weight or exercise or eating less salt; having more potassium etc.

Thanks for all your comments; and well done to those who are on less meds - that's fantastic

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3/28/13 9:49 P

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This is my very first post but I wanted to let you know that I was put on blood pressure medication at the age of 13. By the time I was 40 I was taking 22 pills a day for blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes, seizures, you name it... As of February 2, 2013 I took the very last anti seizure pill... I have been weaned off all my medications and now take no more prescription pills. I started my weight loss and exercise May 6, 2011 and it is possible to get off the medications. I am not done with my journey, but it is so much easier not being tied down to pills, side affects, or even the financial cost of so many medications for chronic illnesses. Important note thought.. it was all done under a lot of care and tests from my doctors.. emoticon

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3/28/13 4:11 P

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Rita, I have been trying but it is hard. But then life was never meant to be easy. emoticon emoticon

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3/28/13 4:03 P

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Johanka
Great job sand you can do that keeping the weight off and exercise will help you not have to get back on the meds. sometimes though as we aged it just happens but if you eat healthy the right food and daily exercise I know you can keep the meds at bay . I have decrease some of my meds because of weight lost and exercise and eating the right kinds of food that at heart healthy . Best of luck to you Johnaka and keep up the great work , - Rita


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3/28/13 3:56 P

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I had gall bladder surgery and then lost a nice amount of weight. I am going to say because of the weight loss I am off my meds and on a watch my BP. I hope I can keep the weight off and my BP doesn't go back up. So far so good.

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Congratulations on those great numbers.

Slow and steady wins the race.


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Yes - I've lost almost 70 lbs (30-40) still to go, and I've gone from 4 BP meds at fairly high doses to 1 at the lowest possible dose which I'm currently looking to wean off of so I will be med free for the first time in 10 years. It CAN happen. You can do it! Don't give up!
Amending this post: I suggest you get yourself a home BP monitor so you can keep track of your own blood pressure daily. If price is a concern you can find some that are good but not expensive. I charted my home readings to show my doc since I'm one of those people who gets "white-coat hypertension" whenever I'm in her office ... it helped convince her to reduce my meds and it keeps me aware of where my BP is on a regular basis.

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3/28/13 11:42 A

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Before I started my journey with SPARKPEOPLE I was taking 20 mg of BP Medication twice a day. After losing roughly 40 lbs I am now on 5 mg twice a day. And I no longer have to take water pills.

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One thing to keep in mind is that weight loss, fitness, and stress levels are only part of the equation. There's a good article, "Striking a Balance: Less Sodium (Salt), More Potassium", on the American Heart Association Web site that includes a list of high potassium foods. They're all pretty low calorie and, therefore, easy to include in a low calorie life style. The nutrition tracker on SparkPeople includes the daily intake of sodium and potassium and I was shocked to see how much sodium and how little potassium I get in a day. I don't eat many prepackaged food, I don't eat out often, and I love salads, so I assumed I was close to being balanced, but I need to take a second look at my diet, not for calories, but for potassium and sodium.

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3/28/13 10:26 A

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I doubt I will ever get off even if I were to be slim as can be. It seems to be a family problem.

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3/28/13 9:39 A

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rafferm- you are right about the baby steps you have to take the step first and then another sometimes you may fall back but you have to keep pushing !! it really is true in life and life is nothing but a journey we are on it is up to us when we want out life and for how long.


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3/28/13 7:37 A

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There are a lot of factors affecting your doctor's decision on your BP medication. If you have had a cardiac event (heart attack, bypass, stent) it is very unlikely that you will ever get off the medication - secondary prevention sets new targets for you. Whereas you doctor may have been satisfied with 130/75 BP in the past, once you have had an event, they want it down around 115/65, and it is rare to see that without medication to help.
You can get you BMI down to below 24, exercise regularly and avoid salt but still have elevated BP.

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3/28/13 5:22 A

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I am hoping to get off meds, but a high stress job and being overweight is not helping. I have started exercising more and really concentrating on what I am eating. It has not made a huge difference, but I can tell I am not getting as tense through the workday. Babysteps and perseverence!

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3/27/13 11:25 P

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YES you can you can be taken off of your bp meds or cut in half I have had my bp med change a lot over the last few years and I have got off of some of them I am healthy today than I was 13 years ago and I have been on spark people for 8 years and I have lost 70 lbs and have my bp under control and been taken off some it can be done really the weight is what makes the bp high that is one of the problem with high bp. Best of luck this is a great site and If I can be of any help or encouragement let me know .


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Larae that's great you've reduced your meds so much already!

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I have lost a lot of weight and before the weight Ioss I was taking 2 different blood pressure medications. Now I only take one and I am taking half the dosage. My doctor hopes to take me off it completely.

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Only an unasked question can be silly. I have heard of people getting their BP under control by healthy eating and losing weight.

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I've been on them for the last two years and wonder if I'll ever get off them. I'm currently super morbidly obese so have a lot of weight to lose; but even if I do lose a lot ... will it really change my bp which shot up following pulmonary embolisms and has been a problem since. Also; how would they know if my blood pressure has gone down since I would still be on the meds? (apologies if my questions are silly)

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