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To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear.” Buddha

Balance body. mind and spirit, maybe a good meditation will help. Take care of your blood sugar levels, it's a balance thing. Chopra meditation day 2 talks about how balance is important to keep our health. One thing I know being diabetic myself, is that a good control of blood sugar through a good diet/portion, exercise and rest is a daily balance activity.

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I'm feeling a little under the weather ..Now a little below weight goal; but my fasting glucose is down also.

I remember just a few short months ago, before my treatment (which I initially resisted doing), when I also did have a sore throat, I would hock up loads of blood but I acted like nothing was wrong ... you see what I mean about my attitude towards doctors?


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Congratulations VISION_QUEST2 for reaching your weight goal and approval for the heath insurance. Stay well! emoticon

DANIKAYOGA emoticon with your diet and Yoga practice! You take good care of your Body and Mind!!!!

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Well, I finally reached my weight goal today.

Yoga practice is A-ok. If a lot less frequent, it's not because I want to, but because I have to.

Need far fewer stimulant drinks since getting treatment for my condition.

Full disclosure: my flexitarian South Beach "lite" diet, has dropped to 1,200 Kcal per day ... and I am getting professional input on my cardio exercise. Not exactly paying through the nose for it, if I play my cards right ...

And I was approved to start the NY Bridge plan, for health insurance.

All it means is that I need health insurance, but my plan of attack, nutritionwise, is totally my own ... when you're uninsured, all you get for counseling or "diabetes education", is a 10 page booklet, six years out of date, put out by Sanofi-Aventis.

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I'm following a raw vegan lifestyle and feel wonderful. It has helped a lot with my practice as well. I feel more alive and balanced(physically as well) I also feel much more connected.

I'm in the middle of my teacher training and I noticed I'm probably the only one not addicted to some form of stimulant. I would be so disconnected from my practice if I was consuming things like that. Everyone is on a path that leads to the same spot. Different ways to get there.



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and also a lack of a good rest affects my balance, I've noticed.

Good balanced food and good rest lead to a good practice.....

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There is sometimes a sugar connection and sometimes a dairy connection .. and these would cause stiffness which may contribute to loss of balance ...


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Very interesting experience in yoga this morning... practice was erratic and balance a little off... had too much sugar yesterday... connection????

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How interesting. Thanks for the recipes, tips, links and info about the blog.



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ooh very cool. thanks for sharing.

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It's here at SparkPeople. Just click on my page and then on my blogs! emoticon

"Optimism is an act of bravery."

"Choices, not sacrifices."


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How do I get to your food blog? I am moving toward vegetarian and think I would need to practice that before I would go vegan.

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CarolJean, I was ovo-lacto vegetarian for 27 years and have whole heartedly embraced a vegan way of eating for the past 17 months. My biggest surprise was how easy it was to go totally plant-based. I think I do pretty well with getting a mix of all the macronutrients. I have a food blog that I enjoy doing here at Spark if you're interested!
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As I was typing this the word that kept coming to me was "joyful"---it's a joyful way of eating for me. I've never enjoyed my food more!


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Are you totally vegan? Is it challenging to get a balance in terms of protein, carbs and fats.?

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I'm a little late getting in on this conversation---just wanted to say that I follow a plant-based diet and am thriving on it!

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Thanks for all the info. I did look on Amazon and quickly became overwhelmed. I think I will ask a couple of my vegan friends and check out the local health food store before I buy.... plus I have some whey protein powder to use up.

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I use Brendan Brazier's 'Vega Sport Performance Protein'. BB was an Ironman Triathlete and was and is a vegan. He has various books and food products. Currently he is doing a free plant-based nutrition web based thing called 'Thrive Forward': http://thriveforward.com/

BB's protein powder has lots of good stuff that you don't see in many of the others. It is somewhat costly. Amazon has loads of different ones to peruse, compare, research, ... hopefully finding the one that suits you best.

The Thrive Forward program has lots of little vids amongst other things. You choose which aspects you want to focus on to learn about healthy plant-based nutrition.

(I'm not working for nor beholding to BB it's just that, I think, he does really good stuff.)

I forgot to do this: thriveforward.com/

P.S. I use hemp protein powder in homemade bars and such things. It is one of the few plant-based complete proteins meaning it has all the essential amino acids. It is dark green or sometimes brown and kinda gritty. Just drinking hemp with some water is too hardcore for me although it is great stuff and cheap. You can often find it in the bulk bins at natural food stores, too.

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Pet, I am looking for a plant based protein powder. What do you use and where do you get it?

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I have only a 'stick' (immersion blender) so my smoothies are not smooth, but pulpy. I slurp this one often:

Kale: 250-350 gr
Parsley: 40 gr
Celery: about 3 stalks
Spirulina: 1/2 T
Ginger: a bit grated
Lemon juice: 1/2 c
Lime juice: 1/4 c
Chia seeds: 1 T
Chopped apples or cantaloupe or honeydew or pears or other fruit to taste - always use less fruit in weight than greens. The fruit may be frozen and combined as you like.
Liquid stevia to taste.

I have 1/2 scoop of a plant-based protein powder with some kind of non-milk (soy, nut...) and 1 T ground flax directly after workouts.

After sweaty hot yoga I have coconut water in lieu of the protein drink.



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what wonderful ideas for smoothies! After a weekend of about 80 teenagers (not all at the same time) at my daughter's 18th birthday bash, about 20 of them sleeping over (and no I do not have a big house - four of them for example slept on the couch, seated, heads on each other's shoulders as there was no other floor space even - I feel like need energy smoothies as my body feels battered from all the oversight. Yoga though helped me get through it. Practised salutations and meditation while the walls of my house vibrated with music and dancing....and was able to breathe out the anxiety and irritation and breathe in the good (95% of these kids are wonderful - cleaning up the next morning, washing floors without me asking etc)

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That smoothie sounds good... mine is a bit more complex..... frozen strawberries, (3-4 large) 1/2 banana, 1/2 c. almond milk, 1/2 serving of protein powder, 2 tbs. flax meal, 2 tbs powdered peanut butter and a handful of baby spinach.
BTW, went to a great 3 hour workshop on Aruveda today which dealt with food at the end. The presenter will probably be doing another workshop focusing on food (this focused more on discovering your doshas and imbalances.) I need to read through the materials again and see if I can succinctly share what I discovered.

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how interesting CAROLJEAN64. I love smoothies, my favorite is blueberry smoothie (low-fat yogurt, Polaner jam and a good cup of blueberries)

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My yoga practice is finally becoming very regular and I am becoming more aware of my diet ... as it should be defined. I have found a basic smoothie recipe for breakfast that I am enjoying after I do my yoga. I also find it becoming easier to reduce the amount of animal products in my eating.

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I agree with you PETALIA, specially when I read the paragraph that indicates that "Yoga can help its practitioners resist mixed messages, learn to trust themselves, and reclaim the pleasures of healthful eating".

I've notice that in general people think that the word "diet" means a plan or program to loose weight when in fact according to the Free Dictionary diet in general terms is: "The usual food and drink of a person or animal" and every culture has its own diet according to their own environment. We really need to trust ourselves to make the best choices.

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Our choices define us. E. Kant

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I like that Yoga Journal article a lot. I especially like and identify with, ... and reclaim the pleasures of healthful eating." Hurray!


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What a great commentary on this discussion. I to love the quote about yoga helping you get in touch with your body and know what makes you feel good. I know that having a handful of almonds or a piece of fruit mid-afternoon works so much better than anything else.

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Today in Yoga Journal:



Squash Food Fears
Many Americans put faith in scientific experts for dietary guidance. They're willing to overhaul their kitchens in the name of health, certain that science will eventually show them a way out of their continual uncertainty over diet. They look to the food industry, nutrition experts, and the government to dispel their confusion—yet these powerful forces only deepen it.
But there's an often-overlooked force that could help us out of our bewilderment: the teachings of yoga. The discipline's philosophy teaches you to make your meals from plant-based foods that form the foundation of the food pyramid—foods over which there's much less squabbling among nutrition experts. The physical practice deepens your awareness of your body, so you become more conscious of foods that bring a consistent sense of well-being—and of those that make you feel bad after you eat them. Over time, many practitioners find themselves in a more comfortable and relaxed relationship with food. Yoga can help its practitioners resist mixed messages, learn to trust themselves, and reclaim the pleasures of healthful eating.

What do you think?

I found it interesting, especially this paragraph:
"The physical practice deepens your awareness of your body, so you become more conscious of foods that bring a consistent sense of well-being"

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Time being a great teacher, I have been on this earth for 58 years ... but, not so like you and yet like you, PETALIA, I'd lost most of my faith in doctors at age 19, when I had developed chronic pain that I've endured (not in my feet, but in my urinary tract) and they threw up their hands because they could not find a diagnosis for my condition.

Of course, the being without health insurance reinforces this (disengagement from doctors), but that's a financial and logistical matter at the moment--and not a matter of belief. I hope to get onto the NY Bridge Plan within a few months.

A former co-worker has convinced me.


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People will be so quick to refer you to a doctor.

For instance, with my foot problems, I have worn prescribed orthotic inserts in my shoes for 16 years. These are not dress orthotics, and my shoes are generally not dress orthopedic; although I worked at a business casual office for a few years where they had been.

It had occurred to me that I needed new ones, STAT, due to being diagnosed diabetic ...

My pedorthist (a non-medical/extra-medical moulder and fitter of custom orthotics--could be for Olympic runners; could be for people with diseased feet) at first said to me why don't you go to a podiatrist ?

I said, aside from not having insurance at the moment .. I am enduring foot pain now; I don't think cortisone injections will be helping me when it's clearly a problem of size and type of insert ..

They are willing to work with me on this.

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Through my many years of health difficulties, I believe barely trusting doctors together with researching and questioning doctors, has for me been the best position to be in. The way the US healthcare works these days, doctors see so many, many patients. Even if they care, they almost always don't have time to. I have found for myself empowerment by researching, going to medical appointments with a list of written questions and an update. The responsibility about my body has been mine. The decisions about it, I have made. I began by thinking any being in a white coat knew more and better about me than me. I was unwell and desperate. Distance from the medical industrial complex, I believe is healthy. For myself, I found it scary to have severe health difficulties. Doctors, I believe, express confidence about their decisions even when there are few facts to back up their opinions. I've been through the healthcare wringer and I've happily come out the other side. VISIONQUEST, barely trusting doctors, I think, is a sound position from which to explore what works for you. Good luck with it all.

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I find I have to ditch sports nutrition. It is working... finally .. in gross, scale terms. But I don't know if the weight lost is due to the diabetes or to the calories in/out. I have to ditch some carbs. Yes, I will switch my program to South Beach lite. I don't eat chicken, red meat or game meats (or anything of the pig/pork family, but that last part should go without saying.) How do I know that my 9 months of being a pescetarian in '09-'10 did not contribute to becoming a caffeine addict to keep my energy up, which contributed to later developing this disease (no family history of; and nobody around me even thinks that having tested in at 195 mg/dL is even much of a case)?

I can't say across the board that pescetarianism, vegetarianism, veganism, raw foods ... or anything like that ... is bad ...

Life is a little rockier for the person who is NOT a hypochondriac ... and who barely trusts doctors ... yet that's me

And, as a parting thought (or six) ...

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I love your last sentence.... not letting your life revolve around food. I think that mindset can creep in when we set goals for weight loss. I also like your idea of listening to your body...in fact that is one of the greatest gifts I have gotten from yoga is to listen with clarity.

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I don't really diet because every diet I've ever been on I would loose some pounds and gain more back. I don't eat meat or any dairy (oops that's not true - ice cream as been calling my name) and no poultry or processed foods. I try to eat healthy. I just listen to my body. Some time I just got to have a carrot and sometime it is chocolate. Tonight it was broccoli. If it is ice cream or some sugar thing I only eat a small proportion. This as been working for me the last 3 years. I try to not let my life revolve around food.

"Food is not just something you pull off a shelf-it has a life force to it." Dr. Oz


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That's pretty funny...

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Recently heard a raw food chef speak. Someone asked her if she is 100% raw all the time. I loved her answer: " I am 100% raw 90% of the time."

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Your boss sounds awful, and unprofessional., I can't imagine really yelling in the workplace, who does your boss think he is, Steve Jobs?

Glad you found something to ease your tension.

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My boss yelled at me yesterday (he is wont to yell all the time and you have to spin your wheels if you work for him) ... I've coped better when I had my yoga-pilates fusion practice regularly ...

So I went a little ballistic for a few seconds and right there in the office (nobody was paying attention, thankfully), I waved my arms like a cheerleader, and later on made sure to do a lot of upper body work in my bellydancing session last night ...

Not that keeping the notion alive during the day, makes the session any easier ... also, my bad feet were acting up ... (Hey, having plantar fasciitis and heel spur got me so involved with yoga/pilates in the first place- before that, the swimming ...)

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It really is in the definition of "perfect" and what does that mean? for some it would be low body fat for others, rail thin, and for other, curves in all the right places. I like Petalia's idea, connected to the mind, and able to function and perform in harmony.

But I am still trying to lose some body fat. Just to see how I look. I wasn't unhappy with how I looked before, but did have some clothes that didn't fit anymore, and thought I was ready for a new challenge. And I hate tracking (I find it tedious, and it makes me a little crazy too), but for this I will do it, because I see the goal, and it's temporary.

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A perfect body? For me, having a body that is closely linked to my mind and soul and one that is not detached, has been an ongoing challenge for me. After my brain injury of about 7 years ago, I had to relearn how to walk, how to swallow, how to speak....I was thinking of this just the other day. In late 2007, early 2008, I would walk daily in shoes on flat grassy surfaces. For me this was a challenging exercise in walking on uneven surfaces. Today, an almost daily yoga practice, jumping rope blindfolded, tennis, riding my bike...A few years ago I couldn't close my eyes in the daytime without feeling like I was falling into the abyss. I would hear relentless screaming when I tried to meditate. Now I am able to practice meditation daily. I am so grateful that this old body of mine has been able to do and to continue to learn and to reconnect to my brain and my soul. A perfect body for me is a body not disconnected from the brain, soul, and heart of it's possessor and works together harmoniously with these other aspects.

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What an interesting exchange of ideas, love particularly what CAROLJEAN wrote:

"Just as diet is individual to us, our bodies, our needs, our spirits, so is the form of exercise that "feeds" those same things. Sometimes when we finally find that "perfect" combination for us, it's very easy to think that the joy it brings to us can make it work for everyone. I am so joyful for anyone who finds what works for them...." and what KAYOTIC added "So I think we can also evolve and change what works for us as well."

I also believe that diet is not a rigid set of food, it's what is nutritious,healthy and give us energy and pleasure. Like PETALIA mentioned, we live in a society where there is a strong pressure to eat mostly not healthy foods, so we have to find the right choice for each of us, as well as the kind of exercise that goes better with our personality, needs, and goals to be healthy and fit. Every one is UNIQUE so it is her/his path.

I'm curious, how long can someone train to get a "perfect body"? then How to keep it for the rest of her/his life? I ask not because I want to train for that, but because I've seen changes in my body with some of the poses and with interval walking, but then again when I don't keep up with them, new changes happen.



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I love that idea that we can evolve and change what works for us. It helps me let go of the regrets that I didn't find yoga sooner. I found it when I was ready for it.

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You are so right, Carol Jean, I love skiing, but know it isn't for everyone. And I have found this past summer, that I also really enjoy mountain biking, which didn't used to be the case. So I think we can also evolve and change what works for us as well.

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Just as diet is individual to us, our bodies, our needs, our spirits, so is the form of exercise that "feeds" those same things. Sometimes when we finally find that "perfect" combination for us, it's very easy to think that the joy it brings to us can make it work for everyone. I am so joyful for anyone who finds what works for them....

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Back to the original question, I try to eat healthy clean foods most of the time, and I also enjoy eating meat and chocolate and drinking wine and a wide variety of foods, including wheat products.

I don't think anyone can say what works for them is what everyone should do, and I also think we need to find what does work for us and enjoy it. So for the folks that don't enjoy the foods I like, enjoy what you do! I'll enjoy mine too, and I feel strong and healthy eating the way I do, just as we all should.

And I'm actually on a restrictive plan right now, as I'm trying to lose a few pounds, just to see how I look and feel at the lower weight.

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Maybe my yoga was supposed to be my dance ... I certainly learned what I know that started me on the path to learning belly dance and Bollywood dance (at home--I took only 5 Rhythms classes live, for conscious dance), at My Yoga Online, where I'd won a membership ...

Cardio, life-preserving (in my case) dance ... BellyFit Earth and some Egyptian style belly dance being the more cardio forms of belly dance ...

Even as cardio is hard for me now [having been away from it for the most part since Spring '11, around the time of my job shift (I have been gym-free and personal-trainer-free since September 2008)--not counting all that yoga I've been doing], I derive much joy from it ...


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I love your last sentence. I agree. Thanks for being so succinct!

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I've been thinking more on this topic. Practicing yoga brings me much joy. Eating foods which I have found to be good for me, has also brought me much joy. Finding my way with diet, like yoga, has been a passionate path. My feelings have been full of enthusiasm and excitement not grim deprivation. Perhaps it's in the feeling of joy, of being alive, where yoga and diet also intersect.


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BTW, this is not a DSM disorder.

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Since this form of communication does not allow for intonation, volume, facial features or body language, I think we need to be extra careful about our vocabulary. I don't consider my 5 - 6 day a week yoga practice obsessive, I consider how I feel, centered, still and energized to be reaching a greater potential of myself.
Likewise, I believe Petulia was just describing the choices she has made in her diet that keep her feeling healthy. I know many people who have chosen to eat this way who do not seem obsessive, but healthy and centered.


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Maybe staying clear of SAD (Standard American Diet) from the outside can look obsessive. There is so much marketing, pressure, and conniving to get us to eat and drink unhealthy 'foods'. Battling such a powerful force, one can be given a DSM disorder. I eat loads, what I eat is close to its source, the land, and it works for me.

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Which comes first ... the orthorexia or the obsessive yoga practice?

I'd broken that chain back in 2007 and haven't been the same since. I'd been a little orthorexic when I'd been an obsessive lap swimmer (from being a newbie lap swimmer) between the years 2002-2006.


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This is such an important topic in general and in specific for a yoga team. I find as my yoga practice has progressed, my meditation practice has deepened, and what I put into my body has become more and more significant. I eat a plant based diet. I am interested in nutrient rich foods and I don't eat for stimulation. Consequentially, I don't consume sugar, alcohol or caffeine. I don't eat processed foods. I don't eat grains. I don't eat animal products or meat. I eat small amounts of legumes and fruit. I do eat LOADS of fresh vegetables much of which is raw. I eat nuts, nut butters, seeds, coconut oil, and olive oil. I eat things like chia seeds, flax meal, spirulina, hemp protein powder, hemp seeds...I do eat fermented foods such as kimchi, sauerkraut, soy yogurt, tempeh, pickled vegetables...I make all my own ferments. I also eat many kinds of sprouts. I do my own sprouting. So far I've only sprouted hydroponically but I look forward to sprouting in earth, too.

For me, diet is integrally tied to many things such as sleep, stress, how we treat or bodies. Diet is so much a part of my life of 'yoga off the mat.'

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That means only that you are fit. That does not necessarily mean that you are breathing rapidly and/or heavily and rapidly; such as is characterized by AERobic, rather than ANAERobic exertion.


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I see no reason why you should not continue to be on this team... it is called Yoga Lovers and you still love yoga.
BTW, the type of yoga I practice at the end of 45 minutes I am dripping with sweat.... in fact within the first 4 or 5 asanas I am absolutely warmed up and beginning to sweat.

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I still want to be on this team, because of the philosophy and my writings including but not limited to, the system of yoga I devised ... emoticon


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I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes 2 weeks ago, and did not want to go on meds right away.
NOT a mistake by a long shot.

Without meds, I ascertained that yoga asana practice would not serve me insomuch as I have been feeling a lot better, most likely due to changes in type of exercise .. I have to be using the largest muscles of my body, in a rapid, repetitive fashion (a.k.a. aerobic or cardio activity). such that it actually causes me to break a sweat ... if I have less than an hour to do that in ... AND - BELIEVE ME, I DO!!

I miss doing yoga ... & it's been only about 2 weeks ... I found out that it is NOT effective with the amount of time I could devote to exercise ... certainly yoga works much better for those with a pretty empty schedule who need cardio, ST, and lots of it whereever, whenever and for whatever reason ...

I caretake an elderly relative in addition to a lengthy commute to a full-time job, that does not pay enough for me to farm out household chores emoticon . And I have been a cholesterol patient for 17 years, though I never have spoken about THAT ... just because it had been stabilized ...

The glucose meter readings mirror my perceptions (about exercise) before I even deigned to take the meds ...

As far as diet, I am still doing sports nutrition, just now heavily calorie-controlled.
My weight had dropped nearly 15 pounds somewhat precipitously (due to the diabetes), but I regained a few pounds now, as my condition stabilizes and improves ...

Edited by: TINIERTINA at: 1/31/2013 (14:37)

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I put in the paragraph about the exercise. In particular we were discussing the Cross Fit phenomenon that seems to be very popular right now. Since my son does it, I know a bit about it. The exercises are all done rapidly and to a point of utter exhaustion. However, the big point it that the bodies of men and women that are held up today as healthy and desirable... six pack abs, heavily muscled chests and arms in men, taut abs and bellies in women with quite narrow waists. These types of bodies seem to be achieved through diet and exercise that are violent in terms of what our bodies really need to be healthy. Check out old films from 30-40 years ago... the leading men were trim, but not so muscled. It was an interesting discussion during a yoga teacher training I just took.
BTW, for me the term "diet" does not mean something I follow for a few weeks... for me, it defines the way I eat to keep my body and mind healthy.

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I eat a whole foods diet. Mainly fruit, vegetables legumes, seeds, nuts and mostly gluten free grains (quinoa which is technically a seed, but treated as a grain, and rice). For starch I usually have sweet potatoes. I do eat free range no antibiotics eggs and I know my local farmer where I purchase meat.
I don't follow any fad diets. I just focus on being healthy.

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Punch,
Will you explain "One item of discussion that was of great interest is that the body that many forms of exercise are gearing us towards is not a normal body and achieving it is actually violent to our systems." I have not heard this.
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I don't do 'diets', that is, not in the sense of doing something for x weeks / months and then go off it again. My goal is more to develop steady healthy habits.
My style of eating is inspired by the book Eat to Live, which means a focus on vegetables, fruit, beans and nuts.

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Keep it simple.


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CAROLJEAN64 posted this comment about diet:


Where would be a good place to share about diet? I am going to share what I learned here and you can repost it where you think best.
Diet is a very individual process for people. My teacher suggests working with a wholistic doctor and nutritionist. His diet is vegetarian and mostly raw with no gluten. That works for him and if he eats outside of that, he can tell in his practice. He recommends mostly fruits and vegetables and juices.
For me, I am still eating fermented dairy (yogurt, kefir, etc.) and almond milk when I want "plain milk" as in a smoothie. I still eat eggs, fish and chicken. I am working towards only eggs and fish as my protein sources.
One item of discussion that was of great interest is that the body that many forms of exercise are gearing us towards is not a normal body and achieving it is actually violent to our systems.


What do you think? What diet do you follow if any.

I'm myself I'm diabetic, so I have a fairly balance diet 50%carbs,25% protein, 25% fat. I eat everything with moderation, portions are very important, my A1C is 6.6 which is within the norm.

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