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Not deprived of freedom of action or expression; not restricted or hampered.

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so fill me in what is untrammeled?

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Ya just gotta love the word....UNtrammeled!!! emoticon

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I love the quote. I have never seen it before... can't believe that, but it does describe how I feel on my bike... untrammeled!

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I LOVE that quote! Thank you GARDENGIRL54.

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Why on earth would you be embarrassed about riding a recumbant bike?!? They're wonderful. You go girl!

I envy those of you who live next to trails. I have one about 2 miles away but find I don't hop on it as often as I'd like to.

OK, this inspires me to share one of my favorite quotes with you fellow bicycling yoginis.....

Bicycling has done more to emancipate women that any one thing in the world. It gives her a feeling of self-reliance and independence the moment she takes her seat; and away she goes, the picture of untrammeled womanhood.
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I too am blessed with a myriad of trails 5 minutes from our front door. I look riding on them because I get too nervous in traffic. I know what you mean about the term flying. A couple of my paths go through beautiful woods and lovely gardens. I concentrate on my breathing and my surrounding and consider it a moving meditation.

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Oh, wow, a pretty yellow recumbent bike! For years, I was a hardcore urban cyclist. I would never walk, always ride, regardless of where in the world or what city I was living in. I seldom rode in a car or bus or taxi. After my TBI, it took me years to get my balance back. I can ride now (so thankful am I) but my reaction time is too slow to ride in traffic. Fortunately I live amongst a wealth of bike paths with one outside my door. Something about flying through space. With cycling, it's geographical space, with yoga, perhaps the verb isn't 'to fly' but there is that traveling inward, that traveling into the present. Hmm...

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I had my bike professionally adjusted to my body a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't done any long rides yet. Our bike club is having one on the 14th but I'm just not sure I'll have the energy since I'm starting my juice feast tomorrow and have no idea what my body will be going through! It will happen in time though. Right now it's looking like Nov. out my window anyway!

If it comes from a plant, eat it; if it was made in a plant, don't. Michael Pollan

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I am almost embarrassed to admit this.... I have a recumbent bike. It is like sitting in a lawn chair with my legs out and up a little from my hips and my arms just about straight out from my shoulders.
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I agree - I have tried to get my bike adjusted so that I'm in as good of posture as I can. Handle bars are smaller so my hands are in better alignment - and mine is a hybrid so I'm not sitting up as high. I still think I have alot of shoulder strain - but do not do this on a daily basis and no super long distances.

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Oh, I am in the same situation, plus my chronically sore neck and shoulders cramp up after very few miles.

If it comes from a plant, eat it; if it was made in a plant, don't. Michael Pollan

What you do to yourself, you do to the world.
What you do to the world, you do to yourself.
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It just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another
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And me, I have a bike question, too. I ride an old racing bike. My back is rounded, my handlebars are substantially lower than the seat height. My neck is therefore bent so I can look up and see the road. And, with my arms stretched out ahead with my wrists often sharply bent on my drop handlebars, I feel very out of sorts and not at all yogic! No, my legs feel good but the rest of me - oh my. I see a fun drawing to draw. I love riding. There's got to be a way...

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I am a yoga and bike person as well. I am curious as to how you work your core as you bike.

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This is mundane compared to previous replies, but I work on core strength as I bike.
Namaste.

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I was a vegetarian for many years -- grounded in both ahimsa and ayurvedic principles -- but re-introduced meat into my diet when I had serious anemia. My health has improved. I know some will say that I probably was not planning my veg. diet properly, but believe me a lot of education and thought went into it. So, veg'n is not of benefit to everyone.

The process of considering it and making the effort to live it is, however, exceedingly valuable a form of Svadhyaya, self-study, if you will. Also valuable is the understanding that we don't need to eat a pound of meat a day, as some folks do -- just a few ounces is enough -- bringing in the Yama Aparigraha (non-greed) and the Niyama Santosha (contentedness).

A way for meat-eaters to practice ahimsa is to be aware of how the animals that become their food are treated in life -- by eating less meat it becomes possible to aford meat that is raised humanely: organic, free-range, local.

...there is a place in you where you have never been wounded, where there's still a sureness in you, where there's a seamlessness in you, and where there is a confidence and tranquility in you. ~John O'Donohue
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I am still quite early in my journey into what yoga can and can't do for me. I have not considered a vegetarian lifestyle, but am committed to eating more healthy, less processed foods. Love to grow my own plus have joined a CSA for this summer. On top of that my husband and I have been cooking more together and helping keep each other on track for healthier eating.

Since I have not felt BAD, it's difficult to say I am going to completely cut out anything from my diet. Still - I know lots of vegetarians and strongly support their choice to eat this way.

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I appreciate your post and think it may be a progression for me as well. I find ahimsa a very potent and important value... then I think about attachment and aversion... or as you put it equal importance or no importance. For me one of the first lessons of yoga was listening to a body I had ignored for over 50 years. My path at this point is to continue to develop that communication.

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When I started yoga back in the early 70's, my guru told me that if I wanted to progress in my yogic path I should consider becoming vegetarian. It was explained to me that the principle of ahimsa or non-violence was what was at work here. Well I did and never looked back. I just liked the way I felt. Lighter. I started reading about it. I think I read Diet for a Small Planet first and just kept going. Currently I eat a vegan, mostly raw diet. Each of the changes I have made to my diet over the years has occurred as a natural progression in my life. A vegetarian or vegan diet is probably not for everyone, but I do think everyone would benefit from it, and the planet certainly would.

I love the swami's words, Caroljean, and I certainly agree that each of our lives has equal importance. Or another way to look at it...no importance.

If it comes from a plant, eat it; if it was made in a plant, don't. Michael Pollan

What you do to yourself, you do to the world.
What you do to the world, you do to yourself.
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It just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another
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This conversation is such a wonderful evolution and exploration. I know that it is the way we live our lives that is much more influential than anything we say. I know my friends know that yoga is what is doing it for me.... but I need to remember the idea of many paths.
Huston Smith wrote a wonderful book about the major religions of the world. In the introduction he quoted a swami, "We are all climbing the same mountain and there are many paths to the top. We can make progress on our path or spend time urging others to join us." (That is a paraphrase, is probably not the exact quote but catches the flavor.)
Another question?
How many of us are vegetarians and how important do we think it is to a yogic life?
I am not a vegetarian.... I do eat as healthy as I can and am working to become more "in the moment" with my eating. Right now I don't see myself becoming vegetarian and still think my yogic life will continue to have value.

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Shirlz, I think you are so right. There may be only one goal, but there are so many paths to get there that we each have to find our own way. I am constantly excited about each new thing I discover and love to share that information with people...and yes, sometimes with the hope, if not the intent, of influencing them...but you nailed it when you said 'We don't have to talk about it to let others see the effect it has on our lives.' When people ask me about what I'm doing, I'm happy to talk about it, otherwise I'm just doing it. When the student is ready, the teacher appears.


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What you do to yourself, you do to the world.
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It just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another
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Yes, Punchilouie, moving around is hard on friendships. But then there are the 2 or 3 I can call up or visit and it is like no time at all has passed since the last time. :-)

"I do have an "attachment" to what yoga is doing for me and want it for all those I love" -- I feel this too, Carol Jean, and remind myself that it is the same impulse as evangelists of any creed. Important to remember that each of us must find our own path, and what is so right for me could be not right for someone else, as much as a True Believer of another sort seems wrong to me...

We don't have to talk about it to let others see the effect it has on our lives.
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Interesting conversation. Interesting experiences, thanks for sharing!

In my experience true friends take you as you are, good friendships evolve as friends and us change, probably by moving from country to country changes a lot the perspective of what a friendship is. One thing though, yoga has been a common denominator in the long distance frienddship with my best friend of 49 years and my other friend of 25 years.

Also I've found out that people that don't know anything about Yoga are very critical and close minded about it. Sometimes I've tried to explain and share,but if they don't listen, I don't really develop any friendship, they are just acquaintances. Anyways, as soon as I move I loose contact...




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Sue, thanks for reminding me of that wonderful song learned in Brownies... silve and gold!
I know I am becoming a more authentic me and after I wrote that last post, I spent some wonderful time with the friends I was writing about and realized I do have an "attachment" to what yoga is doing for me and want it for all those I love.... instead I need to let go of that.

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I am finding that there are many people in my life who do not understand my ...not attachment....but rather my focus on yoga. I would say the majority of my friends do not understand. But then, I feel like I'm being a more authentic "me" so I am open to new friendships and exploring many interests.

I think I am finding the opposite of what you mentioned. I find that my former friends no longer interest me. Sometimes they seem shallow or narrow focused, whereas I am moving on to explore a more holistic life.

Make new friends but keep the old - one is silver and the other gold.

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i love the idea that a new door opens... and I have met some wonderful people through my yoga practice and teaching.

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I like that statement "think of them as people I love" -- we can still love people who have decided to move in a different direction, even when it means we don't see as much of them. Puts it square in the region of 'what i can control' rather than 'what others control' --

The nice surprise in the change I talked about was, I got closer to a few people I had admired but had never been able to make friends with... Turns out they had been put off by my sarcastic attitude!

For every door that closes...

...there is a place in you where you have never been wounded, where there's still a sureness in you, where there's a seamlessness in you, and where there is a confidence and tranquility in you. ~John O'Donohue
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Thanks for your reply and the specific example. I think that is what is happening in my life now... I also think I need to switch from seeing the friendships as attachments and see them as people in my life that I love.

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My answer is yes -- at the point I began taking Yamas and Niyamas seriously, there were people in my life who drifted away... For example, I decided at one point that Satya required me to give up sarcasm (yeah, that was easy! HaHa) so conversations just were not the same -- people whose conversation was made up of sarcastic banter did not find me fun any more.

...there is a place in you where you have never been wounded, where there's still a sureness in you, where there's a seamlessness in you, and where there is a confidence and tranquility in you. ~John O'Donohue
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Have you ever lost and/or needed to change a friendship because of how yoga is affecting your life?

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Carol Jean, an interesting observation about changing relationships -- what is your question?


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It has been said and I agree that savasana is the most difficult pose for the Western yoga practioneer.
I have another question I'd love to hear back from you on. Yoga is incredibly important in my life and changing the way I do things and see the world. I feel as if this new outlook is starting to affect long-standing friendships with people who don't practice and think yoga is a "new age" thing.

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oh savasana...a difficult pose to keep the mind from wandering...

What makes a person who they are, are the choices they make. Albus Dumbledore

Our choices define us. E. Kant

If you keep believing in yourself and seek enthusiasm inside your soul, things will get simpler, more spontaneous. P. Coelho

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FEB_SHOWERS16, I find Savasana to be, for me, the most difficult pose ever!

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I love this thread! Thank you, IMLEENEY, for starting it. And thank you to all for the great suggestions and tips! I'm working on being more mindful of this very thing throughout my day!
When I'm at work and I take a restroom break, I practice Pranayama. I feel this really opens my chest. Also, I find that I hear little pops throughout my upper back when I breath in deep... as long as I practice this every day.
Also, I have serious trouble with insomnia. Savasana is a pose that, in theory, should be easy. But it's not easy for me. I work on this at night while I'm trying to sleep.
I'm trying to teach my children, in subtle ways, to practice yoga throughout their day also. It comes easy to them. Oh, to be like a little child!

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Wonderful responses from everyone...now back to the mundane for a moment...I love doing a modified cat/cow throughout the day. It just eases the lower back, where I tend to carry some tightness, so nicely, and can be done seated, standing, wherever.

If it comes from a plant, eat it; if it was made in a plant, don't. Michael Pollan

What you do to yourself, you do to the world.
What you do to the world, you do to yourself.
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It just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another
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Thanks for your thoughtful post which served to remind me that I practice yoga almost all the time and when things seem "out of whack," it is usually because I have forgotten my practice.

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I was asked this question years ago when I first began practice: How often do you practice yoga? Every day for at least an hour, I lied. Now, my answer would be, almost all the time.

Yoga led me to Ayurveda, which teaches us to think of balancing pairs of opposites -- light/dark, hot/cold, rough/smooth etc... And this concept helps me solve material problems (how do I get this widget into this slot?) and emotional/spiritual/relationship problems (who is strong here, and who is weak? who is talking, and who is listening?...)

When we practice balance in asana, we learn that imbalance often comes from one muscle overpowering the opposing muscle -- how do we bring balance to the inner and outer thigh in Tree Pose (since several of you mentioned it)? How do we help bring balance to pairs of siblings or spouses? How do I come to a situation first as a witness, before deciding how (or if) to act?



...there is a place in you where you have never been wounded, where there's still a sureness in you, where there's a seamlessness in you, and where there is a confidence and tranquility in you. ~John O'Donohue
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I practice mountain pose while waiting in line for anything, breathing techniques along the day as needed, like in the doctor's waiting areas, being mindful of what I eat(kind of food and size portion), walking meditation, watching what is around me and stopping to smell the flower so to speak, which is also to be mindful.I'll try the tree pose, my balance is not too good but it seems like fun brushing the teeth or brushing the hair...

It's amazing how Yoga is present in our lives, beyond the mat!

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And here I thought I was the only one to brush my teeth in tree pose. For me, yoga off the mat colors everything I do... From drinking at least one cup of tea mindfully each day, to letting go of the attachments and aversions that have made too many relationships difficult.
This is a great topic for conversation because I believe that how we practice yoga is a mirror of how we practice life.

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4/3/12 6:18 P

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Physically, I'm all day catching my shoulders rounding, my pelvis tilting. It's a constant, "Shoulders back and down!" Then my chest is open and I more consciously breath deeply and slowly. Primarily, and most importantly for me, is mindfulness, a practice of focus and being in the present which I find yoga to be a great exerciser of. Mindfulness, through the vehicle of breath, is the core of my practice on and off the mat. I, too, really like this question.

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4/3/12 3:54 P

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I use the deep breathing and relaxation techniques to help fall asleep quickly at night.

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4/3/12 3:02 P

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I do hand yoga and spine twists and deep breathing at my desk at work!

I love these stretches when I'm at work:

http://www.mydailyyoga.com/yoga/rsi.html

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Ooooo - this is a fun post!

Hmmm - I definitely use breathing focus in times of stress. I also find that I recognize when I need to correct my posture - for example when I'm walking and start to feel strain in my low back then I know I need to stand up and get my spine in better alignment.

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4/3/12 7:00 A

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How do you take your yoga off the mat? Yoga is a 24/7 thing once you get into it and it colors your whole day.

One of the simple things that I do is to brush my teeth in tree pose. There are lots more of course. Pranayams are my best friend in times of stress, but I'd love to hear what others are doing.

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What you do to the world, you do to yourself.
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