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12/15/12 2:59 A

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That is excellent advice! I would definitely ask your Dr. about Hashimoto's.

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12/12/12 10:15 P

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Regardless of what else may be going on, and the sugar vs sweetness debate, definitely ask for an Anti-Thyroid Hormone test. It's a quick, cheap bloodtest done in the lab, and any doctor can order it. Your TSH and T3 and T4 can all look totally normal and you could still have something called Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Hashi's is EXTREMELY common, especially in women, and can actually be easily confused for PCOS, as it is an endocrine disorder which messes with all your hormone levels and has many of the same symptoms of PCOS. Normal Anti-Thyroid Hormone levels are ZERO. If you have ANY NUMBER HIGHER THAN ZERO, you have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Numbers can range from 1 to over a MILLION, the actual number is completely irrelevant. The treatment is a daily pill. There are many to choose from, some work better than others for different people, it really is completely dependent on your body and your doctor (and in some cases, your health insurance). If your doctor won't order it, find a new doctor. There's no reason to deny you one simple blood test that will be absolutely definitive, and is not remotely experimental, new, bizarre or in any other way potentially a candidate for being discounted. It's a bonafide thyroid disorder that has been around since the 1940's, and it's number ONE symptom is unreasonable tiredness and unrestful sleep.

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GABBYSAPPHI Posts: 38
10/10/12 3:02 P

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Hey guys,

I didn't see the new posts til now so sorry for the late reply. To answer the questions about Hypothyroidism, I did have a feeling that I had it but due to my doctors repeatedly telling me I'm fine and finding reasons for not giving me any tests (I don't know if this is a UK thing), I gave up on it. I told myself I'm just looking for something else that's wrong with me to explain why I get tired so easily and losing weight is such a chore.

But I still have that niggling feeling, even though I've been told I don't have classic symptoms (like the goiter).

I don't know what to do. My friends and family make jokes about me moving an inch and I'm tired but I really am! I can sleep easily most times of the day, I don't know what being energetic feels like! :( Any tips/advice?



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9/18/12 12:19 P

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GABBI, have you had your thyroid checked? I know that sometimes hypothyroidism is found with those who have PCOS and it can cause extreme tiredness and slow weightloss.

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9/16/12 2:28 A

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for sugar cravings:
0) Don't have sugar in the house. Seriously. Just don't buy it. Sometimes you'll go crazy - be prepared - but most of the time, that's a great way to manage it
1) Drink a glass of water. Slowly. Take 30 minutes and drink that glass of water, while doing something else.
2) Suck on some dried fruit. It's got a huge amount of sugar, but at least a vitamin or some fiber is in the package.
3) I'll have to disagree with another poster on artificial sweeteners. The reality is that you need to reduce SWEET intake, not necessarily sugar intake. In my experience, if you go cold turkey for a few days (avoid everything including fruit and sweet veggies like carrots), your taste buds really wake up to what sweet is. I had to do that for a week (only managed 4 days and ate apples) and haven't been able to drink juice or eat full-sweetness products since. Have to make mostly my own reduced-sweetness stuff :)

anyone find the sleep solution, give me a call. I barely function on 7 hours, and with 2 small kids, rarely get that much :(

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9/13/12 10:08 P

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Sleeping lots and still being tired could be sleep apnea.
Have you been tested for that?
It causes you to sleep at random times like that and fall asleep at will.


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9/10/12 7:06 P

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Hi there,

Have you had your thyroid tested? About 2 years ago, I was going through the same thing. Exhausted ALL the time, sleeping 12 hours a day, no energy. I finally went into the doctor and told them something was wrong with me. After numerous tests, they figured out I was Hypothyroid and that was causing my lack of energy and sleepiness. Thyroid problems are extremely common in women with PCOS. They put me on Synthroid and that issue was fixed pretty easily. Even now, when I start feeling that exhaustion again, it usually turns out that my thyroid medicine is off, and they have to adjust my meds. Just an idea to consider. Hope it gets better!

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9/7/12 11:16 A

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It sounds like a sugar crash to me too. For me I stopped craving sugar after not eating it and eating low carbs for only a couple weeks. You have to get the bad stuff out for your body not to crave it. If you feel you can't live without it, have you tried to portion control? Instead eating big piece of cake and ice cream, why not just one scoop ice cream and be done? That should be enough to curb your sugar cravings. Also learn to eat it slower, your body will think it is more than it is if you savor each bite. Hope it helps!

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9/7/12 11:14 A

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Thanks for all the replies! Until yesterday I was fine with low carbing and I had been eating so well I didn't actually have sugar that often (if at all). I'm the same as you guys, I'm constantly tired and right now I can't stop myself from eating sugar even though I've been doing it fine before I got my period. I guess I have to give in a little otherwise I'm going to go insane but I'm still going to try and low carb as per usual.

Speaking of carbs, I wanted to ask if any of you increase the amount of carbs during your period? I ask because I wonder if you need more energy for it.



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9/7/12 11:05 A

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I have been getting by at this point. I don't have as much sugar as I did. Giving up soda and such.

Some days I have the energy and some days I don't. Depends on what I did the day before. If I get a good hard workout in then the next day I feel like I am dragging.....but I am slowly seeing this go away as i get better with what I choose. I still have one cup of coffee a day. Need that. The family fear i will kill them if I don't. LOL. It was harder for me to start eating 5 times a day. I think now that i have done that it has been a huge help.

Thanks to the responses to this post I am learning a little more and more as I go along. I have only be 1 1/2 weeks since diagnosis and still learning as I go. (though I did not start it....I do appreciate it)

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9/7/12 7:51 A

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I have found that the better I eat and the more I exercise, the less I crave sugar. I think taking metformin has also helped the cravings, so hang in there, it will get better!

As far as the sleep, I know what you mean. I'm a teacher, and during the school year I am constantly tired and mornings are very difficult. I often sleep in (then making me rush around like a crazy person), and I would describe getting up for me as literally dragging myself out of bed. And I often feel groggy throughout the day and catch a nap if I have time. I also sleep in on Saturday if I don't have to be anywhere. The only time I'm not like that is in the summer when I can sleep for 10 hours a night.

I have never been able to figure out a solution to this, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears. I just try to do the best I can to go to bed early enough to get 7-8 hours of sleep consistently and tell myself that's enough. And I exercise even if I'm tired, because I usually feel better afterward. I still struggle, but at least it helps a little bit.

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9/6/12 5:29 P

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I know EXACTLY what you mean. On weekends, I would go to sleep at 10-11, maybe midnight and sleep until 10-11, maybe even pass noon the next day. Nothing I did help me lose weight, not even running on the treadmill every night.... I go so tired of it. Eventually, I called my doctor about my hirsutism (I was so embarrassed to even tell my mom I wanted to go to the doctor for it that I made the appointment call in my car in a store parking lot).

Long story short, I found out I have PCOS, they put me on birth control and really soon after I started taking birth control, I mean almost instantly, I had more energy. I needed less sleep (as in I could naturally wake up with 10 hours or less instead of 12 hours or more), I had more energy to move and do things throughout the day, and I lost some weight! I gained confidence from all of it, that it helped me be more comfortable around people and with food and working out that I lost more weight!

BIG BIG BIG BIG note! Birth control will not solve the problems of PCOS. It will not make you lose all the weight and, so far, nothing will; but, with birth control I noticed a big difference in myself that I am not sure I would have gotten without it not only in weight but confidence and energy too. That being said, if you can I would recommend trying it. When I started birth control I was 16 and had no intention of having sex, the point of the birth control was to help regulate my hormones and help me control PCOS. I didn't tell anyone I wasn't comfortable telling that I was on it.

I agree that it may also be sugar crashes, but I understand how hard it is to avoid the sugar. Make sure you allow yourself indulgences and "wean" yourself of of it. It takes a lot of time, but it is worth it!!!! Good luck!

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9/6/12 5:09 P

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Sounds like a sugar crash.
Tips for sugar cravings. Stop eating sugar! Replace with stevia. Lots of recipes around. I use it all the time (check my blog).
I'm new to all of this PCOS stuff, so I'm not the right one to ask specifics about that.

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9/6/12 5:05 P

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Okay, firstly, at some point in the past month I realised that I wasn't losing weight at all. I always knew I had to do low carb but I initially enforced it half-heartedly and then I finally started losing weight again after I started really watching it. However, I've just eaten a MASSIVE piece of cake and (a couple scoops too many of) ice cream which is going to throw my sugar levels up to high heaven. I can't stop craving sugar and I should be starting my period tomorrow but I don't know how to deal with it. Any tips or tricks? I don't want to gain back all the weight I lost!

Secondly, I should add that for whatever reason I'm tired. No, I mean seriously. I'm usually tired but today has been amazing (in a bad way). I usually go to sleep 10-11pm and wake up 9-10am to work out (5 days a week, walking and HIIT alternately) and go about my day but today I literally flung myself out of bed to do exercise. Today I was home all day so I managed to stay awake from 9am and about 1:30pm I couldn't do it anymore and instantly fell asleep when I crawled into bed and woke up at 5:30pm. I could've easily carried on sleeping, I mean I can usually go to sleep at will most of the time but if it weren't for the fact my mum made dinner I would've slept until tomorrow morning. Does this have anything to do with PCOS symptoms, or PMS for that matter? A month ago I was taken off Dianette and given Metformin, so I don't know if this is part of withdrawal or what. Going low carb has actually given me more energy and I feel better but I don't know what this is.

I'm going to go to sleep after this because my eyes are closing as I type lol but any answers are greatly appreciated!



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