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4/6/12 12:41 A

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The question about soy is a good one. The data out there is quite contradictory. I am doing my PhD in a lab that does work on genestein (an active ingredient in soy) and breast cancer risk. What I can tell you is that it is something called a phytoestrogen, or a molecule that comes from plants that works like estrogen in some ways. The main people who should worry about this are women with breast cancer. NEVER take soy/genestein/ect supplements if you have breast cancer. Estrogens promote tumor growth of estrogen receptor positive breast cancer. However, data does suggest that soy is protective against breast cancer if you consume it during early puberty. As for it's relationship to PCOS, I just did a pubmed search on it, and there are only 2 publications. Both suggest that genestein could be protective in lowering "levels of luteinizing hormone (LH), triglyceride (TG), low density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL), dehydroepiandrostrone sulfate (DHEAS) and testosterone." (Khani et al. 2011). Hope this helps!

Also I would recommend taking any news article you read about some science breakthrough study with a grain of salt. I was interviewed last year about my project and a whole slew of news articles exploded onto the internet. Most of them completely exaggerate what I actually saw in my study.

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4/5/12 7:25 P

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I was just at the dietician today and she recommended anywhere from 175 to 200 for me per day but that was because I was losing weight at 120-175. She also thought I could up my calories by 200 from the spark recommendations. Especially since I have been yo-yoing and not able to stay in the spark rec range anyhow.

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4/5/12 6:39 P

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I have lost 34lbs eating anywhere from 100 - 200g carbs a day and 1200-1500 calories. I did not want to go on an extreme carb diet because I know it's not realistic (for me, anyway) to stick to that forever. My weight loss been a slow process but it's something I can stick to and I'm continuing to lose weight. I have had my period five months in a row. I can't even remember the last time I had more than three periods a year! I am also on metformin 2x a day and so far my weight loss hasn't been as hard as I expected.

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4/3/12 4:37 P

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I do not eat soy after reading about how soy impacts women's hormones.

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4/3/12 2:19 P

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PCOS Diva has a lot of information about soy and PCOS :) http://www.pcosdiva.com/

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4/2/12 11:54 P

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Hi Ladies,
Thank you for sharing your stories and advice. I was just reading through and found all your advice really helpful and interesting. I have never heard anything about soy not being a good choice for PCOS women. Does anyone have any more information on this. I eat quite a few soy products and really enjoy them so I'm curious.
Thanks again!

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4/1/12 12:08 A

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Low carb works not only for my PCOS but also my IBS. I am happy with how being low carb makes me feel.

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3/31/12 11:59 A

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I had a dear friend encourage me to go gluten free last year. I tried it and loved it as I felt SO much better and for the first time in my life, I had 28 day cycles. Now I am still mostly gluten free but have a bite here and there to keep from having awful bread cravings. For some reason low carb does seem to be a friend to the pcos woman. Good luck!

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3/30/12 10:48 A

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I have had great results going low carb and generally follow the Atkins plan pretty strictly. Very, very rarely I will eat a bit of grain or fruit if I am out rather than at home where I can make my own food, but I avoid that as much as possible. I was taking in about 1400 calories per day during induction, and staying under 20 grams of carbs per day. I do eat a lot of tofu, and haven't found that it affected me in any way. I get tired of meat, so I am glad to have that option. I eat a lot of Atkins bars to help me w/ my chocolate cravings, and also like EAS carb control shakes for a snack.

Do NOT let people tell you that you have to eat grains to stay healthy -- it simply isn't true! I almost completely avoid them now, and am sooooo much healthier. I've lost over 50 pounds, I get totally regular cycles, and am at my lowest weight since high school -- and I am almost 37! The trick is to take supplements to make up for whatever things might be missing in your diet. I think that people eating lower grain diets should take B supplements since you aren't eating fortified cereals, etc.

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3/27/12 1:55 P

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Again, thank you everyone for your input. I am going to use my SP calorie targets as a starting point and see how hungry I am from there. I will mind my doctor's recommendation on the carb counts though. I had my Glucose Tolerance Test today and it was definitely something I hope to never repeat. Dr's appt. on Monday for results and Metformin counseling. I will take everyone's advice to heart and I'd like to thank you all for being so open and forthcoming!

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3/26/12 12:27 P

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I agree with what some others said here that I do not think that this would be enough calories. I know a lot of doctors say 1200 calories for weight loss, but I disagree. If you are not meeting your caloric needs, your metabolism will stop working, thinking that it doesn't have enough fuel. A rough estimate of the calories you should be eating is your weight with a zero added to the end. If you eat that much and exercise, you should lose weight. If you want to get more specific, there are online basal metabolic rate calculators that you can use.

I have PCOS and Type 2 Diabetes and the amount of carbs sounds too low to me as well. You definitely want to cut out processed carbs and white carbs, but you need fuel. Especially if you are active, you will need whole grains, vegetables and low glycemic fruits. If you portion control and make sure that are combining your carbs with protein, then your blood sugar should stay stable on you should lose weight.

Its been working for me, so i hope you'll consider it. Not to mention that if I restrict myself that much, I have found that I can't keep it up and I end up binging on really bad foods and then I feel terrible.

Best of luck. Hope you figure out what's going to work for you!!!

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3/26/12 9:45 A

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I have also heard that lowering carbs helps with PCOS and losing weight. I know a lot of people that reduce them to near or as low as you suggested. I think it's a personal thing. I know that our body needs a certain amount of carbs. I also know there are good and bad carbs. The more complex they are the better for you.

For me I looked into what my diabetic relatives are allowed (165grams a day or 45 per meal and 15 per snacks) and then I tried to get a little lower than that but allow myself to have high days. I also realized with my metformin that on the days that I was too low in carbs it kicked my butt more. So I do try to stay on the lower side of my total carbs for the day but I don't sweat if I'm a little over and I'm not obsessed with it because I almost always go for the complex carbs over simple carbs.

As for the calories. I try to stay near the low end of the calories sparkpeople have set for me. However, I allow 2 or 3 days a week to jump up above 1400/1450 and indulge as high as 1600 calories so that my matabolism doesn't get use to a set amount of calories. I never feel like I'm going without or hungry.This is just what works for me.

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3/25/12 8:49 P

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Thank you everyone :) I have lost successfully on a range of about 1200-1400 with no attention to carbohydrate intake, albeit VERY slowly, and kept it off. I'm not as worried about the caloric intake because I intend to work out and will be able to enjoy more calories. The carb count is the scary part, but she did tell me that this would be a lifestyle I would have to adopt as opposed to a "quick fix" to lose on PCOS. I will probably have to kiss my refined, processed carbs goodbye, but I will be able to have potatoes, corn and carrots once I am maintaining and re-introducing foods previously restricted foods into my diet again.

I've never gone under 1200 intentionally, but when I ate intuitively I found that some days I just wasn't hungry enough to go about 1000-1100 (not often, but maybe once or twice a week) and I calorie cycled the other days.

I appreciate all the input and its nice to hear everyone's take on it and experiences! Thanks!

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3/25/12 6:59 P

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Sounds like another fad, but if it works for you for the rest of your life then great it works for you, which is all that matters when all is said and dun.

I disagree on the under 1200 cal deal but that's me and what I understand of things, not sure how you are going to get all the right nutrients into yourself if you are not able to eat more then 1200 in a day since that in most regards is the mint that a women needs to get all nutrients into the body and function at the lowest level, more is needed if other things are in life outside of working out and the like.

You can totally go vegan if you wish to do so - but you will need a good source of protein to help the body in general and believe it or not the human body does very well with meat protein, though its not 100% necessary the human body in general just process animal proteins better then plant from what I understand.

I've been avoiding soy most of my life thanks to allergies to it - so just saying avoiding tofu well believe it or not soy is in a LOT of product's its in some PBs, bread, most processed foods have it within to varying degrees so its hard to avoid less you stick to a natural or even raw diet free of any mass produced man made products (which means natural products that are not made in bulk can be alright, but not always)

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It's totally do-able. I went on 10-20g Carbs a few years ago. I couldn't sustain it for longer than a year, and reintroduction made me totally pick up more weight *sad face*. But that said, it is completely do-able. I'm sure your dr said this, but please be sure to drink lots of water- eating so much protein is really hard on your kidneys and can lead to kidney stones (ouch!).

Metformin isn't too bad. I have only been on it for a month or so, (500mg x2 daily Extended release) and got over most side effects within 3 or 4 days. There is just one remaining side effect, I get crazy hungry really quickly, and crazy full after a few bites. I can go for the whole day without eating or want to eat every 2 hours. It feels like I am getting to know my body again :) I take it in the middle of my meal as I get queasy if I take it after I've finished.

Good Luck!

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3/25/12 3:19 P

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Hi, I am sure for a short time you will lose weight, again, every body will adjust different, but I agree that the calorie amount shouldnt be under 1200, specifically because it can trigger a backfire in a lot of people to actually tell your body to store them incase your not eating enough. Slowly decrease down to 1200, and stay closer to that if you can, mainly between 1200-1450-ish. (That is just my opinion- from my experience, I am not a doctor - nor do I know all your body's needs or personal info.). and make the calories count by not wasting them on unhealthy calories, so we can stay full throughout the day. . Have a great day.

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3/25/12 3:01 P

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Hello there. Most of what you have written sounds great. In my 7 months on here I have cut out processed foods (nearly always), eat no "white"foods (pasta,bread, rice, sugar or artificial sweeteners) and keep to the low end of the Spark Carb range given to me. Have I seen any changes? Well, a big yes! I am without cravings for the first time in my adult life, binge free, and have just had my 5th period in a row after 3 years without any periods at all ( and then it was only one period after a previous 6 years without any). My testosterone level has slightly lowered too.

I used to take Metformin but have eliminated it choosing natural remedies.

My only concern comes from your calorie intake. It seems slightly on the low side. We read that we should never eat less than 1200 cals a day. My range is 1250-1550. I tend to keep between 1340-1480 but notice that if I eat less cals I stop losing weight. I have lost 93 pounds in 7 months so something is working right this time after so many years of struggle!

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Hello! I'm new to the group... but not PCOS. I recently switched to a new PCP who is on-board with helping me with weight loss goals and managing my PCOS "issues", in partnership with my GYN. She explained to me the connection between insulin resistance and research suggesting reducing my carbohydrates and lowering my caloric intake (which she said would come naturally with LC). She asked me to keep carbs between 20-40g and calories between 1100-1200 (no more than 1500 on days where I am active or very hungry). I will also begin taking Metformin soon and I am on continuous birth control (cycle every 3 months).

Has anyone experienced success on a diet modification of this caliber? I'm faithful that it will work because I'm essentially eliminating processed, sugary, starchy, carby things altogether (I can't have potatoes, corn or carrots for now or bread, pasta, rice, tortillas, etc.) and that helps a lot from what I've read. Any chance I could take this vegetarian with no tofu (I know soy is not best for PCOS)?

Any advice, tips, suggestions, or help is great! Thanks! :)

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