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yeah, that does help. I haven't tried it, but it's worth a try. Thank you so much for your post!!!!

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Hi! I totally get where you are coming from. I meet with a health coach, and one of the assessment questions she asked me was if I'm ever full. I'm talking about being able to out eat everyone I know, including my husband and any other guy! My issue seems to be related to a few things - the biggest difference was when I stopped eating foods with gluten. I also take a lot of supplements, but even those didn't have a massive impact - a little, but not much. I don't have a gluten allergy, but more of an intolerance. She also said that eating things with gluten make my body crave more things with gluten, even if they're healthy. I was so surprised - I had replaced so many things like bread, pasta, etc with healthier whole grains, but to no avail. After a day or two of not eating gluten, I realized one evening that I felt full and wanted to put food down - then I almost fell out of my chair! I still have times that I'm hungry, but I also fall off the boat sometimes or eat something I didn't know had gluten in it. It's a long road, as you know, but that was a HUGE revelation for me.

Hope that helps - good luck!

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Vanja1 - interesting... I was under the impression that Spiro was primarily for interrupting the growth of facial hair. I stopped taking it (after 2-3 yrs) b/c I felt it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm still taking Metformin ER (Extended Release -- THAT was the key for me to deal with how the regular Met used to make me feel ill).

As for hCG, I also did tons of research, as did my husband. I've been doing the homeopathic drops you put under your tongue. In the 22 days I've been taking it, I've lost 16 lbs. I'm NOT hungry (just have to deal with "I'm bored" type of "hunger", since I just started a new job & have nothing to do for hrs/days!). I'm not irritable or cranky like some say it must make you (that's probably only true for the caffeine-addicted who stop cold-turkey, or perhaps those prone to complaining). I plan to do another round in 3-4 wks to drop another 15-20 lbs, and then get back to my workout routine (I completed P90X this summer, plan to try Insanity next).

In the past, I've found having hot chocolate packets on hand (25 cal, no fat) helps with evening cravings. I'm also a fruit-junkie. I love berries, apples, grapes, you name it. I occasionally did protein shakes, a handful of almonds, or 80-cal yogurt for snacks. And having 2 servings (1 cup) Fiber One (yes, the twigs!) every morning not only helped with any hunger until lunch, but also kept me "regular" (maybe TMI! But it I stop the Fiber One, it's 3-5 days before I go - NOTHING else works as well or tastes as great! I miss it, since you can't have it on hCG).

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Vanja1 - interesting... I was under the impression that Spiro was primarily for interrupting the growth of facial hair. I stopped taking it (after 2-3 yrs) b/c I felt it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm still taking Metformin ER (Extended Release -- THAT was the key for me to deal with how the regular Met used to make me feel ill).

As for hCG, I also did tons of research, as did my husband. I've been doing the homeopathic drops you put under your tongue. In the 22 days I've been taking it, I've lost 16 lbs. I'm NOT hungry (just have to deal with "I'm bored" type of "hunger", since I just started a new job & have nothing to do for hrs/days!). I'm not irritable or cranky like some say it must make you (that's probably only true for the caffeine-addicted who stop cold-turkey, or perhaps those prone to complaining). I plan to do another round in 3-4 wks to drop another 15-20 lbs, and then get back to my workout routine (I completed P90X this summer, plan to try Insanity next).

In the past, I've found having hot chocolate packets on hand (25 cal, no fat) helps with evening cravings. I'm also a fruit-junkie. I love berries, apples, grapes, you name it. I occasionally did protein shakes, a handful of almonds, or 80-cal yogurt for snacks. And having 2 servings (1 cup) Fiber One (yes, the twigs!) every morning not only helped with any hunger until lunch, but also kept me "regular" (maybe TMI! But it I stop the Fiber One, it's 3-5 days before I go - NOTHING else works as well or tastes as great! I miss it, since you can't have it on hCG).

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Vanja1 - interesting... I was under the impression that Spiro was primarily for interrupting the growth of facial hair. I stopped taking it (after 2-3 yrs) b/c I felt it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm still taking Metformin ER (Extended Release -- THAT was the key for me to deal with how the regular Met used to make me feel ill).

As for hCG, I also did tons of research, as did my husband. I've been doing the homeopathic drops you put under your tongue. In the 22 days I've been taking it, I've lost 16 lbs. I'm NOT hungry (just have to deal with "I'm bored" type of "hunger", since I just started a new job & have nothing to do for hrs/days!). I'm not irritable or cranky like some say it must make you (that's probably only true for the caffeine-addicted who stop cold-turkey, or perhaps those prone to complaining). I plan to do another round in 3-4 wks to drop another 15-20 lbs, and then get back to my workout routine (I completed P90X this summer, plan to try Insanity next).

In the past, I've found having hot chocolate packets on hand (25 cal, no fat) helps with evening cravings. I'm also a fruit-junkie. I love berries, apples, grapes, you name it. I occasionally did protein shakes, a handful of almonds, or 80-cal yogurt for snacks. And having 2 servings (1 cup) Fiber One (yes, the twigs!) every morning not only helped with any hunger until lunch, but also kept me "regular" (maybe TMI! But it I stop the Fiber One, it's 3-5 days before I go - NOTHING else works as well or tastes as great! I miss it, since you can't have it on hCG).

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Vanja1 - interesting... I was under the impression that Spiro was primarily for interrupting the growth of facial hair. I stopped taking it (after 2-3 yrs) b/c I felt it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm still taking Metformin ER (Extended Release -- THAT was the key for me to deal with how the regular Met used to make me feel ill).

As for hCG, I also did tons of research, as did my husband. I've been doing the homeopathic drops you put under your tongue. In the 22 days I've been taking it, I've lost 16 lbs. I'm NOT hungry (just have to deal with "I'm bored" type of "hunger", since I just started a new job & have nothing to do for hrs/days!). I'm not irritable or cranky like some say it must make you (that's probably only true for the caffeine-addicted who stop cold-turkey, or perhaps those prone to complaining). I plan to do another round in 3-4 wks to drop another 15-20 lbs, and then get back to my workout routine (I completed P90X this summer, plan to try Insanity next).

In the past, I've found having hot chocolate packets on hand (25 cal, no fat) helps with evening cravings. I'm also a fruit-junkie. I love berries, apples, grapes, you name it. I occasionally did protein shakes, a handful of almonds, or 80-cal yogurt for snacks. And having 2 servings (1 cup) Fiber One (yes, the twigs!) every morning not only helped with any hunger until lunch, but also kept me "regular" (maybe TMI! But it I stop the Fiber One, it's 3-5 days before I go - NOTHING else works as well or tastes as great! I miss it, since you can't have it on hCG).

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Vanja1 - interesting... I was under the impression that Spiro was primarily for interrupting the growth of facial hair. I stopped taking it (after 2-3 yrs) b/c I felt it wasn't doing anything for me. I'm still taking Metformin ER (Extended Release -- THAT was the key for me to deal with how the regular Met used to make me feel ill).

As for hCG, I also did tons of research, as did my husband. I've been doing the homeopathic drops you put under your tongue. In the 22 days I've been taking it, I've lost 16 lbs. I'm NOT hungry (just have to deal with "I'm bored" type of "hunger", since I just started a new job & have nothing to do for hrs/days!). I'm not irritable or cranky like some say it must make you (that's probably only true for the caffeine-addicted who stop cold-turkey, or perhaps those prone to complaining). I plan to do another round in 3-4 wks to drop another 15-20 lbs, and then get back to my workout routine (I completed P90X this summer, plan to try Insanity next).

In the past, I've found having hot chocolate packets on hand (25 cal, no fat) helps with evening cravings. I'm also a fruit-junkie. I love berries, apples, grapes, you name it. I occasionally did protein shakes, a handful of almonds, or 80-cal yogurt for snacks. And having 2 servings (1 cup) Fiber One (yes, the twigs!) every morning not only helped with any hunger until lunch, but also kept me "regular" (maybe TMI! But it I stop the Fiber One, it's 3-5 days before I go - NOTHING else works as well or tastes as great! I miss it, since you can't have it on hCG).

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What helped even more then Met was Spironolactone. It disrupts the hunger connection to your brain so you don't want to eat as much. I stopped eating bagels and other carbs when I started taking it. It only brought me down to the highest point of my healthy bmi so I still had work to do on my own. Had because I stopped taking my meds for a while and now the weight is back.

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If you happen to be in Fredericton, I do! I am an RMT in Fredericton, New Brunswick (Canada).

Massage is GREAT! AND - while it has not been properly studied, there is an effect that it seems to have on blood sugar levels. Even the relaxation effect is good for reducing stress hormone levels. All good stuff!

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well at the 5 week maek i am down 7 lbs not too bad- the first progesterone cycle is over - - - hopefully the bleeding wont last forever (lol) .

staying active with dancing and yoga. mabe if the weather is good tomorrow will see if anybody has a massage appt open in the am would like to self reward.



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The best thing for me was working with a nutritionist to learn how to eat and snack the right way. When I'm following my nutritionist's guidelines, I eat between 1300 - 1700 calories a day... but eat a TON of food. She got me to learn how to pay attention to the amount of carbs (overall), fat, and protein in each meal or snack and get them to be balanced the way our body needs them to be to process everything correctly. I eat meals/snacks every 2 - 3 hours. I'm a teacher, and with some work I have finally made it convenient so that it fits my daily routine without interfering with my job. (I actually have a harder time following my diet when I'm not at work now because it's so in tune with my work day!?!) If you want the numbers for balancing meals/snacks send me a message and I'll reply just to those who are interested.

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Thanks for the great tips and information. I find myself getting less and less hungry as I am losing weight. I do find myself really hungry sometimes so I have started keeping vegetables in my fridge just for snacking. I have radishes, carrots, and celery right now. I also try drinking hot drinks if I am hungry. I always have hot chocolate (low fat/sugar) in the apartment so I can quickly make that. Also I have many different types of tea.

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You rock! Be strong and tough (like we all are). It definitely drives me nuts when my husband decides to avoid having a beer and some pizza and loses a few pounds in a few days, but I remind myself that life is just going to be little harder and that I can handle it. I count my blessings (gratifying job, amazing husband, fantastic family, and strong legs) and maybe listen to a little "girl power" music and rock out in my house when no one is looking!
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Thanks everyone for your responses. They have really help. It's good to know what has worked for everyone even if it may not work for me, I know everyone is different. But it is good to hear about your stories because it reminds me that I'm not alone fighting this. Whatever your way is, as long as it is healthy for you, of course, whatever you are doing and it's working- congratulations!!! It is so hard to lose weight for us PCOS girls, and I admire everyone who has done it, because I'm on the same boat and it is HARD! Thank you for your tips, advice and encouragement!!! I've been working out and continue to watch what I eat... I'm trying to not stress out so much- when I have a bad day (depressed, hungry, craving carbs! etc.), then I have a bad day- tomorrow will be better! I'm trying to understand that I am hungry for a reason - IR. I've known that for a long time but I think I really didn't get it. I cannot expect for my body to work or feel like any other girl out there. I have PCOS and I will deal with it. There are going to be days when I hate it, and I feel depressed, and I don't like my body, and I'm hungry,but I can't allow those days to be everyday. I guess I'm just trying to be strong.

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Wow! It really does sound like you went through the wringer! I can understand why you were so excited!

As for Metformin, there ARE ways to improve the "morning sickness" - but I won't go into them here. If anyone is interested, they can message me, and I'll share. I do understand that Metformin is not for everybody. It is a good one to try, though, and is one of the few medical treatments for PCOS that actually treat the underlying issue - IR.

There IS a clinic I know of that uses a combined approach to treating/managing hormone imbalance issues - and I really like them! I get their newsletter, and they always have a lot of really good, solid information, and they're not nearly as hyped about sales as most places you see. It's www.womentowomen.com They have a physical clinic, as well as an online program. If they shipped to Canada, I would probably be using their system.

For me, without Metformin, I gain weight no matter what I do with diet and exercise. I had lost about 35 lbs, and had kept most of it off for about 3 years, but then my final semester of school hit, and I not only jumped off the wagon, but burned it! lol I totally forgot to take my meds (still trying to get back into the habit), and I was living off of caffeine and sugar to help me focus. I knew I would re-gain SOME weight, but I gained close to 20 lbs!!! emoticon

So... I had a good cry, and now I'm paying a lot more attention to what I'm eating, trying to get back into the habit of taking my meds, and (once the sidewalks thaw) I'm going to start walking on a regular basis. There's a 6km walk-a-thon in May for Multiple Sclerosis that I want to join, so that's good motivation. Not to mention that working as a massage therapist is a good workout on it's own! lol

I know that the "magic three" - diet, exercise and Metformin work really well for me. I not only lose weight, but I start ovulating again, and my periods get much more manageable. I just need to work on consistency and getting my hubby to stop bringing chips and pop into the house! emoticon


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Not to worry about the aggression. I guess I was a little hurt because I am really excited about finally losing weight.
I have tried a bunch of different methods to lose weight. I am a teacher so during the summer, I would work out 2-4 hours a day (weight lifting, cardio, etc) and eat a 1,500-2,000 calorie diet. I have given up bread, sugar, dairy, etc....but I never lost weight. I have worked with regular doctors, trainers (athletic), Naturopaths, and Nutitionalists to no avail. My weight never changed.
I did the program in September lost about 15 pounds (about 5 pounds less than someone without PCOS) and then I did the program again and finished about 2 weeks ago.
My doctor tested the basics (cholesterol, liver, etc), but he said that eating 500 calorie for four weeks wouldn't hurt me and they have been using HCG in much higher doses since the 1970's. My Naturopath did a body composition test on my every week to make sure that I was losing fat and not muscle mass or anything.
I tried a few medicines for PCOS. Metformin was the worst. I was on it for over a year. I did lose a little weight although that was when I was going to the gym several hours a day. It made me feel like I had morning sickness and I had to eat in order to prevent the sick feeling. I really tried to get used it, but my body simply wasn't having it and I did some research into the long-term consequences and I decided that it wasn't designed for me.
I don't have high blood pressure or any other sympton of being over-weight except for simply holding several inches of fat around my stomach and a little over the rest of my body. My doctor told me that the size of my waist was big enough to warrant doing something about it.
I am really hoping to visit a clinic that deals with PCOS from several different points of view. Have you ever heard of one? I feel like I see one doctor for this issue and than other for that I there is no...they don't communicate.
Anyway, what have you done to address your PCOS?
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Perhaps I sounded a little more harsh than I ment to - if so, then I appologize. I AM glad that it seems to have worked for you, Kate, and I DO know how difficult it can be to lose even a few measely pounds, and how frustrating it can be.

I guess from my point of view, it seems like such a high-risk, un-proven option when there are other options available that actually do tackle the underlying issue and are MUCH safer, although granted they take longer.

How long were you on the program, and how long have you been off of it? Are you still following the same dietary guidelines? What medical tests has your doctor done to make sure your heart, kidneys and liver were not damaged? Did you have an analysis done to make sure you didn't lose any lean body mass?




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What are other people doing to combat hunger? I find that eating small things (almonds) that are "healthy" but not bulky are not satisfying. I seem to need to eat a larger quantity of food in order to feel full. What do you guys find to be helpful?
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Hi,
I am in no way advocating that anyone else try the HCG diet if they don't want to. I am not a doctor (is anyone on here a doctor?) and I can only tell you my own experience (did I not make that clear?). Anyway, I tried taking drugs for my PCOS (Metformin, etc), but I didn't want to be on drugs my whole life especially when the drug was not designed for my issues.
I did a lot of research into HCG and PCOS before I started and I worked with with a regular MD and a Naturopath. I would highly recommend that you want to do the diet, that you work with someone that you can talk to when you need support or have questions.
I have also read that the medical community is trying small doses of HCG for women with PCOS because it can stimulate ovulation. I was more regular on my cycle when I was on the HCG. I don't know whether it will continue or not.
I made the decision that I would be more comfortable taking a naturally occurring substance in my body for a few weeks/months rather than taking a medicine for the rest of my life.
I definitely don't want to get into a point by point discussion of the diet. I wanted to share my experience (kinda the point, right?). I have learned A TON from other women on this site and it is fun to find out what other people are doing to deal with their PCOS diagnosis.
I lost 20 pounds on the diet and I have kept off the weight. I have found that eating large quantities of vegetables can really help me when I simply want to eat. I actually eat about 4 servings of vegetables in a days (2 at lunch and 2 with dinner)! It feels amazing! I would also recommend a protein shake called, Dream Protein which is sweetened with Stevia so it has 20 grams of protein for 90 calories and no sugar. The chocolate is pretty good if you mix it with 1/2 water and 1/2 skim milk. I use it has a pre work-out snack.
Good luck with the hunger issues!
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Not to "rain on your parade", MKATEFR, but that diet scares the heck out of me!!!

It is as "starvation diet" as you can get!!!! 500 calories - PER DAY?!?!?! The bare minimum for most people of average height/frame is about 1,200!!! I would have serious questions about what kind of damage is being done to your body (ie: heart, kidneys, liver, etc.). Just because a doctor has advised it, doesn't mean that it's safe.

The medication that's given is hCg - Human Choriogonadotropin, or, human pregnancy hormone. It is also used as a strong fertility medication that can cause Ovarian Hyper-stimulation Syndrome (OHSS), a LIFE-THREATENING reaction that also makes your body more prone to the same reaction later if/when you decide to try to have children. Some studies suggest that women with PCOS are more prone to OHSS to begin with, too. It can also cause multiple births, and can cause a whole bunch of lesser symptoms like headache, irritability, water weight gain, depression, etc. Also, according to the Mayo Clinic, more recent studies about using hCg for weight loss suggest that it's not as effective as scientists once thought. www.mayoclinic.com/health/hcg-inject
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Another interesting study is here: www.indexmedico.com/obesity/h
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They show some interesting data - like, there is fat loss in certain areas of the body, but over-all weight is the same as placebo. Also, changes in circumference and impedence tests (which measure over-all body fat %) were the same as with placebo, too. So, there's some serious questions about not only how it works, but is it really effective?

I'm glad it worked for you, but that is just WAAAAAY to scary for me to even consider it!!!


As for your question, Indi, I get that, too. It is a TOTALLY different kind of hunger than what most people think of, and you can't ignore it. It has NOTHING to do with emotional eating or bordom, and it can't be put off with drinking water, either.

What it really is is reactive hypoglycemia - low blood sugar brought about by an over-reaction of insulin production by your body in response to food ingested. It's a form of Insulin Resistance, so, you eat something and your body reacts by making too much insulin. Now, your body is having trouble using the insulin, but it still can - think of a kitchen sink that's only part-way plogged. If you leave it long enough, the water will eventually get through. The same with your body. It's trying to keep your blood sugar from getting too high, which it does, but your body is still using more insulin than it "thinks" it does, and you end up with blood sugar levels that are too low about 1 - 2 hours later (faster with more highly-processed carbs) and you get HUNGRY!!! This kind of hunger is actually DANGEROUS to ignore, too! I've done it, and almost passed out from low blood sugar.

Here's what you need to do: First of all, find some snacks that are high-fibre and high-protein, but have a LITTLE bit of sugar in them. An apple spread with natural peanut butter is a good example. Plan on having a snack or meal about every 2 hours throughout your day. Try to stay away from the cookies and chocolate bars if you can. Being prepared ahead of time is the best "defense" against sudden hunger I find.

Try to get rid of as much processed, pre-cooked and pre-packaged food as you possibly can!!! Think of what it would look like directly from the farm, and if you can still recognize it, then you're on a good track! It's not just the processing, but the additives that are in the food that can REALLY mess you up!!! If you are used to bringing Lean Cuisine's to work, then make your own - it's not that hard, and will also save you money. Crock-pot's are another good cooking tool. Try to make about half of your plate chock-full of veggies, too, more if it's salad. When you do eat salad, pack it full of salad veggies, and don't just eat lettuce. Go for hearty and home-cooked, with a strong focus on veggies, a moderate one on protein, and a moderate one on the starch/bread. I actually don't eat much bread anymore. Mostly at breakfast with a boiled (or microwaved) egg.

While water is important, sometimes I find that it will "send me over the edge" and actually create the hunger. When things are really out of control, I will drink either juice diluted 1/2 & 1/2 with water, or I will have a bottle of juice and a bottle of water at my desk and either alternate, or only sip from the juice if I start feeling like I need the boost.

If you do get the "crazy-hungry's", then listen to your body and have either a hearty snack or a meal. You may need to sip on a sugary drink like juice while you get it ready. I know I've had it come on me very suddenly sometimes, and when it does, I get really emotional, too.

In the end, for me, I needed to take Metformin to really get a handle on the hypoglycemia. I find it helps to even things out, and I feel much better while on it. It's definitely something worth going to a doctor about, even if it's a free or low-cost clinic. If you live in an area with a teaching hospital, there might be a way to get into a study or something, too. Check out www.pcosupport.org. I think they have a list of current studies that are available.

Metformin IS one of the safer medications around with very few serious side effects (although you do have to be careful about stomach upset until you get used to it, and gradually increase your dosage), but you really should have regular follow-up bloodwork to check liver and kidney function. It is pretty cheap, though, and it works for many of us. Ideally, you would use it for maybe a year or two while you re-balance your body, then see if you can "take over" with the lifestyle modifications and either reduce or eliminate your meds.

Hang in there, and HTH!!!


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I notice a BIG difference when I eat enough fat. When I have eggs for breakfast (2 egg whites and 1 full egg) with a serving of cheese cooked in, I am full a lot longer. The calories are higher, but just high fiber or high protein doesn't keep me full.
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2/5/10 2:58 P

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Make sure that you are getting enough fiber, it helps you feel full longer. You can add it to you calorie tracking, I do. When I actually eat enough fiber I don't starve.
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2/4/10 11:24 A

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Hi,
I am happy to although I have to say that the diet was HELL for me.
You take a medicine (HCG, either an injection or drops, drink injection like insulin) and eat a very restrictive diet. You only eat 2 proteins (chicken etc), 2 veggies (lettuce, radishes, etc), and 2 fruits. You do this for between 23-42 days and while it sounds crazy, you lose between 2 and .5 pounds a day. People with more weight to lose or those without PCOS tend to lose more, but I was able to lose enough weight to get into a "healthy BMI"
I worked with a Naturopath, but I think others use Medspas or you can order it on-line.
I know that it sounds CRAZY and like a crash diet, but I SWEAR that it is totally healthy. People use the HCG in much larger doses to increase fertility and have been for about 40 years. It is a nature chemical that women produce when they are pregnant that tells their body to use up fat stores.
I was a little hungry on the diet and I definitely missed food, but the weight loss is very satisfying. You can check out the HCG blogs and message boards.
I know it sounds too good to be true, but it does work and after the diet, I really wasn't as hungry and I have kept the weight off.
Kate

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2/4/10 9:54 A

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can you tell us about the HCG diet?

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MKATEFR Posts: 66
2/3/10 8:22 P

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I know exactly what you mean! I am a total food person. I am driven by food and I LOVE to eat. I can't imagine just eating 12 almonds and calling that a snack. I gained about 20 pounds when I started teaching and I couldn't lose it no matter what I tried. I don't eat candy, drink alcohol, eat fast food, add butter, and I eat whole grains. I went to the gym for hours a day (during the summer), but I only lost a few pounds.
What finally worked for me was the HCG diet. The diet is intense, but I lost 20 pounds and 5.5 inches off my waist. I am now less hungry and while I still love food, I don't need to eat as much.
For lunch today I had a 2 cups of romaine, 3/4 a cup of black beans, 1/4 cups of feta, and a vinaigrette dressing. It is now 5pm and I am starting to get hungry. The diet really changed the way that I ate food.
I would highly recommend HCG. Eating less didn't work for me until I tried it. The diet has different stages and while they are painful, they work.
Kate
(I swear I don't sell the diet, it is the just only thing that ever worked for me)

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2/3/10 7:00 P

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Can't help you since I do not get hungry very often and when I do less I know there is food to be had I just stay feeling hungry until it either goes away on its own or till I am able to put something into my tummy.

Nine times out of ten though of late the hungry feeling means that my Blood Glucose levels are low and that I am in need of a carb boost (as in I'm getting to low for my bodies comfort level).

I do not eat as healthy as other people here on SP, but what I have found works for me and my ex diabetic dietitian okayed it - my only issue I have is hitting 1200 cals a day bear min when I need to really be hitting 1800 a day min.

If you like and can have nuts they are a good way of getting cals, plus they for some people can also help them feel fuller longer - no idea really since I can't have them.

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2/3/10 5:03 P

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I feel your pain-sometimes I get really hungry too. I have notice though that the busier I am, the less I think about food and the less hungry I tend to be. The slow days at work or at home are the ones where I seem to snack all day!

My suggestions:

1. Are you busy enough--are there some activities you can do when you feel hungry where you say, I can have something "after" I do this... Maybe you need more activities in your life in general? maybe it really is biological and your body is craving more calories--can you eat more but then burn more so it's an even trade-off?

2. Food tricks-I am sure people here will have better ideas but at work if I am hungry I will have sugar free hot chocolate or diet soda sometimes to hold me awhile or nibble on some bran cereal or nuts. Believe me I am hungry between meals and these things help. If someone leaves something yummy in the kitchen here I can rarely pass by without trying it :)

Wish I knew some other ideas but wanted you to know you were heard and I understand. I am thinking about what I will have for dinner right now myself!



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2/3/10 4:27 P

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I'm trying to lose weight. Well, I've been trying to lose weight for as long as I can remember. The only times that I have been able to lose a little bit of weight have been the time when I go hungry all the time. I read all these things about PCOS healthy eating and how fiber and all the other healthy things are supposed to make you feel fuller and make you feel full longer- well what is wrong with me then?
I am horrible at counting calories and counting period when it comes to my food- I've tried it for years- I simply cannot do it. I do read food labels and see the calories info. and carbs and sugars and all that and I have an idea of what's good and what isn't. But don't ask me exactly how many calories I ate for lunch because I don't.
I try to eat healthy- I switched to soymilk instead of having 2% milk. I switched to a whole grain high fiber cereal, and it only has 5g of sugar per serving, when in the past I was having a cereal that had 18g of sugar!!!! Crazy. I know. I only eat whole wheat bread, pasta, and rice. I don't eat fried foods. Anyway, the list goes on and on.
I am always hungry!!!!!! I am always HUNGRY!!! For example, for lunch I had shrimp, brown rice, and salad (no crazy topping, just lemon and vinegar). Again, I don't measure anything, but it was a good portion. Literally, two hours later I was starving. I had a good breakfast and snack, so it is really depressing to be reading all these things that I'm supposed to eat to control my PCOS and how everyone else seems to be eating right and feeling okay and here I am STARVING!
The only times when I can feel full is when I eat and don't care what I'm eating. But if I eat a good portion of healthy food- I knnow for a fact I will be starving.
I am desperate. I can't see a doctor for my PCOS because I can't afford it. I saw a nutritionist last year and the amount of food she told me I could eat was just insane- I'd be starving. And besides the info. she gave me was something I already knew. Eat fruits and veggie, about sugars and carbs, exercise! Wow. I really needed to go to college to know that!
Anyway, I guess that if I want to lose weight I really need to go through life starving. I have literally gone to bed crying because I am so hungry and I hate this whole situation.
I mean don't think that I starve or don't eat enough calories in a day because I do.
It's not even about the cravings (we all have them) it's not that. I am hungry.
Well, I guess I just needed to vent. I just want to be normal.

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