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I found a great esthetician and I go see her probably about every 4-6 weeks depending on how fast my hair is growing on my chin. If I can't go see her and I need a cheaper way, I buy the Sallie Hansen face waxing kit, you just warm up the strips in between your hands and apply than rip it off yourself. Sometimes it takes a bunch, sometimes it only takes a few. I found plucking took too long and was too painful to pull one hair out at a time.

I have also noticed if I am doing really good on my diet, eating low sugar, exercising, taking care of myself, the hair growth takes longer to get bad but I am also lucky because I have blonde hair.

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I have to shave and pluck hairs daily. Mine are very thick, course black hairs that grow on my upper lip, chin, neck, sideburns and even patches on my upper cheeckbones.

I was wondering if anyone has bought the Tria Laser and if anyone has had any success with it. I have been thinking about buying it but I want to make sure its worth the money.
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I tried the saw palmetto, and it worked for a bit, but then stopped. I am going to have to save up for laser.

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I take metformin, birth control and spiro, which have helped to improve it, but I still shave daily.

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I unfortunately have to shave my underneath of my chin and my upper lip every other day, I don't have the money for laser treatment and my facial hair is so coarse wax will not pull it out.

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LASER! I do laser hair removal, it does work. If your PCOS is very out of control it might not, but mine is overall pretty under control as my periods are regular now and my weight is steadily decreasing (though slowly).

Look for a groupon deal and get the worst area done first. I've started with my face/neck area, and next I am going to do my arms. :) 2 sessions in and I noticed a HUGE difference.

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It seems like a never-ending job. I even pluck when I am driving...

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Cayseaanna I also have to do my side burns and everywhere. If I'm in a rush I will shave, but that's temporary.i get hairs under my chin. Ugh I hate all my hair. Oh and my stomach is hairy too. I'm always plucking and waxing.

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I do agree that facial hair is one of the most embarassing things about pcos.
Especially since you can't really cover that up like you can the rest of your body!
Anyway, I am a natural blonde and I am fairly lucky enough that my facial hair isn't
always noticeable especially when it first starts to grow but, after a while it gets more noticeable the longer I leave it. I sometimes forget to shave but, most of the time I shave my face before going outside! I use a regular razor with water and sometimes a scissors to trim the long hairs hanging from my chin! This is so embarrassing to talk about but, I know I am not alone with this problem! It does make me feel like less of a woman having so much body hair though! emoticon I know something that would be helpful to us who have lots of body hair to have nono the special device that reduces hair growth and when it grows back it takes longer to grow back and it comes in lighter and thinner. I really could use that but, no money for it! emoticon Anyone who can afford it or can get a deal on it should try that.
If anyone here tries that I wonder how that works for them.

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Razors and tweezers; I never go anywhere without them. It sucks!

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Having facial hair is the most annoying and embarrassing part of PCOS. I do a combination of plucking and shaving. I tried getting my chin and lip threaded at the mall. I was very pleased with the results. It cost about $10 - $30. It last about 1 to 2 weeks. I just wish it was a little more private then a kiosk in the middle of the mall.

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I used laser treatments back in 2008-2009. It cost me a total of ~2000 for my chin and neck, upper lip, and sideburns. I was tired of the scarring from the tweezers and the jolen bleaching kits were starting to burn my skin.

I'm just starting to see some reappearance of hair growth. It was the best thing I ever did for this issue and I am thinking about doing it again for what little hair has reappeared.

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I wish I could do laser, right not it is just a razor for me.




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Laser hair removal has been successful for several of my friends with PCOS. I wish I could afford it.

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I do laser hair removal and have gone through two cycles over the last two years. They did not tell me to do anything having to do something about my hormones either time. I have had success with the laser and will continue in this treatment as long as I can afford it.

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Interested to see if drinking a glass of soy milk daily will help with coarse unwanted facial hair?

I have tried Saw Palmetto capsules, but had to discontinue after a short period of time. They made my eyes terribly dry. (I already have dry eyes either due to my RA or my age (60).

Recently, tried Spearmint Tea for a few days and noticed my eyes were becoming too dry
again. Discontinued it.

Currently on 25 mg of Spironolactone and 500 mg of Metformin, and I cannot tell that it has
helped.

Had laser done a few times a 2-3 years back. Considering trying the electrolysis route next.

Have an appointment with an endocrinologist next month and hoping for answers.

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Shaving for the last few years after plucking for almost 10 but it scarred and darkened my skin badly. Now I'm saving for laser hair removal. Any recommendations in the SF Bay Area are welcome for an ethical, efficient laser clinic.

One more thing: The laser clinics will tell you to get your hormones balanced first. Therefore, I plan to take Spiro for a few months before I start laser. The flipside is that once you stop taking Spiro, your hair can return (even after laser treatment).

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I couldn't wax either - had the same result you got. I can however use an epilady type device. What exactly the difference between that and waxing is I don't know, but I don't get the pimpley things that waxing causes when I use the Braun Silk-Epil.

I personally wouldn't use a hair removal cream on my face (or anywhere else for that matter), they sound pretty nasty to me and the last thing we PCOS ladies need is more chemicals to confuse our already addled bodies.

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I think the hair issue is the worst - the others can be hidden but as a teenager wit hpcos i really felt like a freak and started shaving my chin hairs - once you start it's very difficult to stop as youget coarse stubble - which let's face it is NOT sexy.

I tried to change over to waxing but the wax the woman used one me caused huge whitehead spots all over my chin and neck - it was worse than the hair and made it very obvious something was going on there - so now i'm back to shaving which i hate (stubble sucks). We can't afford laser or electrolysis at the moment and i'm hoping losing some weight helps. I never tried nair as i thought you couldn't use hair removal cream on your face - is that true? how long does it last?

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It is possible that the laser didn't actually make the hair worse, that your PCOS hormonal imbalances became worse during that time, causing the thicker hair.

Just a thought.

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The excess hair, especially the facial hair has been the hardest thing for me to deal with. I have tried dozens of different hormone treatments, none worked. I did laser hair removal for 2 years, that was a waste of money it actually made my facial hair worse! I use to get dark facial hair that wasn't too coarse. Since I did the laser hair removal not only has my hair gotten coarser but I have more of it! I was upset that I spent $3000 and it got worse :( I have tried shaving but it leaves coarse stubble. I am currently using Parissa strip-less hot wax once a week but it sucks because by the time my week is up my facial hair is noticeable. I used Vaniqa but $75 a month is expensive and it caused ingrown hair. I have thought about electrolysis but I have a very sensitive face and I have heard it is extremely painful! I have been doing research on Soy milk. I heard that it decrease hair growth. I started drinking Soy milk about 2 weeks ago after my sister suggested it to me and I have already begun to notice a difference. I am going to continue drinking Soy milk to see if it makes a difference in the long run.

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All you ladies post were a help for me. I just keep using nair on my face because I am afraid of getting razor bumps or burn. Sometimes the nair won't catch the hair but if I leave it on longer it burns my face. So I will be looking into electrolysis. Thanks MOJO.

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So glad that someone started this thread! Thanks for the info ladies. Right now I am just plucking my chin and leaving my stache alone as it keeps getting darker with new growth but is liveable right now. I hope to be able to go through treatments if necessary when I reach my goal weight. Now I am wondering if maybe I won't need it.

For those that use Saw Palmetto... do you use a formula for women?

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Yes, thanks for the explanation! I, too, thought that laser did the same job as electrolysis, and it was permanent, too.


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Thanks for all the info Mojo.

I don't understand why electrolysis would work and laser not in PCOS, given that both methods use heat to fry the hair follicle when it's in anagen.

I would have thought that either they both would or neither would.

I can't afford to keep going with laser (haven't been for a couple of years now) so maybe I'll try electrolysis again and see if the results are better.

Thanks for the advice to try different practitioners, I've only ever been to a couple and they both hurt muchly, but this was all pre-PCOS for me.

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ELECTROLYSIS CHANGED MY LIFE!

My hair got so bad I was embarrassed to leave the house. I had been bleaching for years until the hairs became so coarse that the amount of bleach it took started to burn my skin! I looked into laser hair removal and was just about to start (already signed a contract and paid) when I learned that laser was not permanent and usually only a temporary fix in women with hormonal problems, like PCOS. I had to get an endocrinologist to write a letter stating I had PCOS and that laser would not work in order to get my money back, and break out of my contract, but I'm so glad I did! It was a 3 session contract for $1200! And I would've probably needed many more than just those three sessions.

I learned that electrolysis was the best solution for hair growth caused by pcos. I started going once a week for 30 minutes a week. Each 30 minute session cost me about $30-$35. After 3 months I was able to cut back to twice a month, then a couple months later only needed treatments once a month and they were short 15 to 20 minutes sessions.

After about 9 months I was completely hair free, and now only go once a year for a few stragglers, which is normal even in women who don't have pcos.

Keep in mind that a plucked hair that is not properly caught in treatment takes 6 weeks to grow back out (and not every hit is a hit, some are misses, at each treatment). Find a WELL QUALIFIED (certified and experienced) electrolysist who's clients have seen results.

A hair that is properly removed by electrolysis will never grow back. If you see regrowth, it was either not "zapped" properly the first time, or it's a completely new hair. Hence, once you go through electrolysis and are hair free for months or even years, and do not continue to treat your condition with diet and exercise and medication, you will grow new hair. That doesn't mean the electrolysis did not work, it just means you are developing symptoms as a result of not treating your condition.

Major "normal" hormonal changes like pregnancy and menopause can also trigger new hair growth. That's just life.

One last thing. Yes, it is a little sensitive and not the most comfortable thing to experience but it should not be painful! Find an electrolysist who knows how to control strength levels properly. The first lady I went to was torture. I had to buy this expensive cream to numb my face (barely did) before going to see her and it still hurt. She had gone on vacation and I was still early in my process, only my second month (my 4th session) and didn't want to go 2 1/2 weeks without a treatment, so I found someone else while searching online. She was great! She talked to me about all the stuff I mentioned above in this post and encouraged me to drink plenty of water to ensure a smooth treatment (keeping the skin well hydrated helps a lot!). She told me over the phone that I would not need an special creams, and I didn't believe her. She started me on a very low frequency and I could barely feel it. I thought maybe she wasn't doing it right but she explained that she just adjusts the strength to the client's needs. Less power means going slower and longer sessions, or you can get it over with faster and have it be more painful. I opted for slow and painless. The first lady I went to never offered the option. Needless to say, I stuck with my new girl and over that year we became good friends.

One of the best decisions I ever made. It was so worth it!!! In total I spent less than $1000 and became facial hair free in less than a year. I would've paid 10 times more than that if I had known it really worked. I love my face! The same face I used to hate and would cry about every time I looked in the mirror or touched my face. Ew! So glad those days are over. Do it! You won't regret it.

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Ah hair is one of my biggest issues... i grow a lot of dark thick hair on my face and neck... more than my hubby, lol... i have to shave once a day... and i use a soy shaving cream by aveeno, hoping that helps get a closer shave and supposedly deter the growth a little due to the soy (one can hope)... shaving hasn't made it worse, as some may think, but has made it manageable in my case.

at one point I was on BCP and spironolactone (low dose of that) and honestly it didn't do much for me at all... i was on for a short period of time as I didn't want to take anything in the first place so perhaps with more time it could work for someone else... i notice since the hair on my legs takes a longer time to grow in but on my face, it's the same...

i did electroysis years ago but because my hormones were so out of control it didn't help given the hormones would stimulate hair growth in other hair follicles the electroysis didn't kill... i was told to return when the hormones were managed as it would then be more effective...

so wish you luck, for me it's one of the toughest things to deal with from PCOS... but you have options and i'm sure you will find something that works for you emoticon

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That's exactly right - it appears to increase SHBG - which is why it lowers free T without affecting total T. I just didn't want to get too technical, as it's one of my weaknesses and I'm constantly being told to belt up and simplify things :)

I've sent you the paper and a few others I think you may be interested in.

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Ahhhh.... That makes sense. It's almost like it's acting similarly to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (which binds androgens so they're not as freely available, and which PCOS women tend to be low in) rather than being a "substitute" for Spironolactone.

I would love to read that article. I will PM you my home e-mail so you can send it to me.

Thanks for the info!


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Ahh ... I see where you were going - good thinking and you are quite right that herbal medicines need to be treated with the same respect as pharmaceutical ones. They all have a physiological effect, in fact at least a quarter of all pharmaceuticals are derived from plants. Tamiflu is something most people are familiar with at the moment - it is derived from Star Anise.

As with most things, whether it will be of therapeutic value or cause problems comes down to an appropriate dose. 4 cups of spearmint tea or greater a day in men can cause problems.

Conversely to the effect that artificially lowering testosterone levels can do on a developing male foetus though is the effect that excess maternal levels of free testosterone can have on a developing female foetus ...

Anyway, one day I must teach myself not to waffle on so badly ... spearmint reduces free androgens and has no effect on either total testosterone or DHEAS. I'll copy in a bit from a paper published in Phytotherapy Research in 2007 called "Effect of spearmint (Mentha spicata Labiatae) teas on androgen levels in women with hirsutism":

"After treatment with spearmint teas, there was a significant decrease in free testosterone and increase in luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone and estradiol. There were no significant decreases in total testosterone or dehydroepiandrostenedione sulphate levels."

The fact that total testosterone did not decrease whilst free testosterone and actual hair loss did, is an indication that spearmint actually blocks testosterone at a cellular level (ovaries, plus hair follicles both on the head, face and body for example) rather than affecting actual testosterone production.

I can email you the article if you like. It's very well written, very informative and low in technical jargon.

It only mentions pregnancy in passing - that spearmint has a long traditional use in treating morning sickness in early pregnancy, however it makes for interesting reading in general terms.

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I'm not an expert on naturopathic-type medications, but I believe the way that it works on hair growth is that it helps to lower androgen levels. This is good if you have excess androgens, but to a developing male fetus, it would not be a good thing. I honestly don't know if spearmint tea would be hazardous, but to my way of thinking, if it affects androgen levels enough to reduce hair growth, then it could be strong enough to affect a growing fetus. So, not having seen studies done (or having read anything) that verifies that it's OK, it's "better safe than sorry" in my opinion. I think I did also come across it at one point as being something that pregnant women were not supposed to consume, but right now I can't remember where.

If you know of anything that could put my mind at ease, then I'd be happy to read it!

Long story short - even "natural" medicines are still medicines and should be OK'd by someone with appropriate training, especially when it comes to pregnancy.


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Sweet Sunshine,

Why should one not drink Spearmint tea during pregnancy?

It's a common addition to many morning sickness formulations and I'm not aware of any studies that have been done on it's effects during pregnancy.

The essential oils of the mint family can overload the liver and kidneys when taken to excess, but if you are just making a cup or three of spearmint tea a day, you'd get very little if any of the essential oil, so I'm not sure what the contraindication would be, in moderate amounts. Obviously overdoing anything is a different story ...

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Pretty much all I'm doing at the moment is plucking - I've got thick hairs all over my chin, but sparsely, luckily. I'm starting to get them on my upper lip now, too, though, like it's not bad enough already, being dark-haired, haha!

My only problem now is that the hairs are starting to get ingrown, growing under my skin, or, on occasion, leaving thick, blackhead-like filled pores that don't ever seem to grow out.

Anybody else had any experience with things like that? I mention it to my doctor, but he's more worried about me losing weight that any "cosmetic" problems that come as a side-effect of my obesity and PCOS.



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Yes, be very careful about BCP's (and that includes the shot and the have-your-period-4-time-a-year products)! It can mask your symptoms, but actually make things worse behind the scenes!

The biggest thing to realize about PCOS, is that it's really a metabolic issue that happens to have gyno symptoms. That's why you see symptoms getting worse if you gain weight, or stop "behaving yourself" with diet and exercise changes.

I've heard good things about the spearmint tea, too (I'm allergic to mint, so I can't drink it), just don't drink it if you're pregnant.

Supplements-wise, the basics I recommend are: Fish Oil, a good multi with high levels of Vit. D3, and chromium. I've heard good things, too, about the inositol, I just haven't tried it yet myself.

It's also well-worth it to find a good, qualified Naturopathic Doctor in your area. They aren't necessarily as expensive as you might think (especially if you're paying for a doctor already), and they can REALLY do a lot for you!!! They can also help you sort out what supplements your body actually needs, rather than spending tons of money on trial-and-error!

Oh, and as for me, I was just plucking the obvious hairs on my 'stache and chin, but I started getting a "shadow" in my 'stache area, and I've just started waxing it. I use the wax that doesn't need a cloth strip, you just work up an edge and then go to it. It works a lot better than I thought it would, although I do have to keep exfoliating between so I don't get ingrown hairs.

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AMBERLEANNRN Posts: 20
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Thanks!

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Hi Amber,

You can't pluck/tweeze in between laser sessions as then you don't get as good results, as the hair follicle then goes into catagen or telogen the transition and resting phase. For laser to work, the hair follicle needs to be in anagen - the growth phase. Tweezing hair cannot possibly make hair growth worse.

I am pretty certain that laser is as permanent as electrolysis - they both do the same thing - burn the living daylights out of the hair follicle so that it dies or is substantially weakened and cannot support hair growth any longer.

I've had both - I prefer Laser. Not IPL - it was next to useless. There are lots of different types of laser - you need to find one that works for you. The best machine I found was a Gentlelase. Not as painful as the other types and very effective.

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AMBERLEANNRN Posts: 20
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I spoke with a certified electrolysis yesterday and she told me to STOP tweezing the hairs that this makes the problem much worse. Has anyone else been told this? She told me to either cut it or shave it off. She also mentioned that it could take several treatments and that it is a longer process.

Which is better electolysis or laser. I read online recently and found that electrolysis is permanant and laser is not.

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I'm saving up for laser, went back on pill 2 months ago and having all sorts of problems, so getting my tubes tied in february. Lost weight in the 6 months I was off (40lbs) just by watching my diet like I was doing before while on the pill and using metformin as always. Saw palmetto helps slow down things growing for me. BCP makes my hair shed more, lol

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I shave (when short on time), but ALWAYS followup with TEND SKIN astringent and a moisturizer!! When I have time I use SurgiCream. It's a hair removal cream that also comes with a moisturizing cream to followup with. If I SurgiCream then it only every 2-3wks. When shaving...it's more frequently

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I've heard good things about spearmint and take the tea now and then, but I don't have it regularly enough for it alone to have a noticeable effect. I've read the studies though and they sound promising. Saw Palmetto is something I saw good results with, but it took 3 months, due to the cycle of hair growth.

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I was wondering if anyone had any sucess with spearmint tea?
www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-trea
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ents/news/20070222/spearmint-may-cutR>-excess-hair-in-women

this webmd article summarizes a turkish study done. I'd read elsewhere that two cups a day after 30 days (or more, it escapes me) would show a decrease in growth...

a more recent article..sounds like it may be helpful, but hasn't been clinically proven
www.keepingmyhair.com/spearmint-herb
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-tea-has-significant-anti-androgen-tR>reatment-for-female-hairloss-and-hirsutism


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Shaving, but it has really damaged my skin (I've developed a lot of dark spots under my chin). Thinking about laser though...

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Ladies be very careful about oral contraceptive pills - studies have shown that they actually CAUSE insulin resistance in otherwise healthy people. Can you imagine what they do to us who already have significant insulin resistance problems?

Yes, they effectively mask the symptoms of PCOS for some women, but the cost is great. They make the underlying condition much worse.

If anyone wants copies of the scientific studies on this, email me and I'll forward them on to you or there's info on my website:
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Other than waxing, laser and epilady-ing, the things I've found most effective for hair have been d-chiro inositol and saw palmetto. DCI addresses the underlying insulin resistance problem, preventing the increased testosterone in the first place and SP prevents testosterone from turning into it's superpotentized form - dihydrotestosterone (DHT).

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I have found that now that I am on the pill I only need to be waxed every other week. I used to get waxed twice a week!! So far taking the pill has been helping the hair growth slow down. So I am happy!

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I went from bleach to nair to wax to shaving to electrolysis since I was diagnosed at 20. Nothing worked perfectly, of course, and it got worse and worse. Finally this spring, I asked my Mom to help me get laser. It has literally changed my life. It's expensive, there's no doubt about it, but when I think about the money I've spent on razors and wax... no contest. I had to shop around, for sure. I had one lady want to charge me over $1500 just for my neck, and it was a package "deal"!!

The lady I finally went with is charging me $100 per session, for 5-6 sessions. I've had four, but have only gone over it with a razor 2 or 3 times since that first treatment. And in the end, it has been far cheaper and more effective than the electrolysis (at one point I spent nearly $300 in a month on that). I highly recommend it, and if anyone's in the Columbus, Ohio area email me and I'll send you my girl's name and number.

Good luck all,
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If you're not trying to get pregnant, I highly recommend Yaz. I've been on it for about a year now and my facial hair is almost gone. Still have to pluck a few stray hairs on my chin but nothing as bad as it used to be - I used to have to wax once a week.

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Hey all - I've been shaving my "beard" since high school and then I had to start on my "side burns" and now I have to pluck or wax my lip and that little sole patch under my bottom lip. I also have to wax my chest in the cleavage area.

I've noticed the more unhealthy my diet and lifestyle the worse things get. If I start losing weight then things slow down and don't seem to be as drastic, especially my chest (which I hate the most!).

I shave every shower and wax as often as I can at home with the wax you put in the microwave, no strips. I find it less sticky.

I was recently diagnosed and I'm so glad to find forums like this!

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I tried waxing, but it didn't work that well for me.

If you focus on results, you will never change. If you focus on change, you will get results.

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I wax and pluck. I will say that with my weight gain it has gotten much worse, and worse still after I got off yasmin and went to an IUD.

Constant Vigilance!!!

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wax wax wax is my best friend.... i have to wax my mustache once a month and my eyebrows too (they are like caterpillars creeping acrossed my forehead LOL)
I either do it at home if it's not too bad with pre-pasted wax strips or go to the salon =)

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Laser is costly and I am very fortunate to have had the money to do it. Unfortunately I have been on antibiotics lately and had to stop my treatment for a while. I hope it does not make me have a set back. I can't go back to the facial hair I was having before I started laser treatment.

If you focus on results, you will never change. If you focus on change, you will get results.

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I pluck them out. It is a pain, and I'd love to do laser removal someday, but my current budget won't allow that.

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Hey there,

You know, I am doing OK on the Metformin, but I am not at the highest possible dosage and I definitely have to take my pills with a meal. I also noticed that if I eat anything too fatty or heavy in refined carbs, it definitely upsets my stomach . . . talk about being prodded to make healthier, cleaner eating choices!

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Have you tried laser removal? Totally worth it.

Krista

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Hi, I know what u mean by so much hair. I used to pay for waxing. Now I do it myself. I get the pre-waxed strips from the beauty supply store and use those.

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I used Vaniqa when I was first diagnosed but it burned so bad and I got a rash so I had to stop using it. I also took Spironolactone, which helped quite a bit. Then we started trying to conceive(still trying) and I had to go off of that(dangerous to the fetus). So now I'm back to shaving. I've been thinking about laser hair removal - what's the normal cost of that?

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When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." ~Author Unknown

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"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference" ~ Reinhold Niebuhr


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I have facial hair on my chin and above my lip. I usually wax my lip and just pluck the hair on my chin. I was taking Aldactone, it seem to make the growth of the hair a little slower. After, waxing the hair on my lip, I just watch for new growth and pluck it before it gets to bad. With waxing it seems that it last a good 2 weeks before I notice it growing back.


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I first started with the Nair removal stuff, then I graduated to shaving when the hair got worse. Now I go for laser removal, although I still have to shave occasionally.

If you focus on results, you will never change. If you focus on change, you will get results.

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I've never thought of threading. I may have to try that. My hair is blonde but so thick that I'm waxing it.

Do you get sick on metformin? I got so sick every day that I couldn't even continue taking it.

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I have had to deal with pretty coarse facial hair, especially on my chin and at my hairline, for some time now. What I have noticed is that the better I take care of myself, especially eating a lower-carb, PCOS-friendly diet, staying consistent on my Metformin and working out, etc., the better the situation seems to get with my "Italian Aunt" hair situation. There are also prescription medications on the market like Vaniqua (sp?) that seem to work for some. In the meantime, I actually go to a threading salon - more thorough than waxing and it seems to last longer.

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I hope to see some good suggestions on this one. I have those few stubborn hairs on my chin and one aggrivating one over my upper lip. Right now I just use one of those slender trimmers that are about the size of a pencil.

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I absolutely hate it, but thankfully I do not have much at all...just whisker on my chin. I used to go for laser treatments when I had more facial hair, and thankfully a lot of it has vanished, but I can no longer afford such expensive laser packages for now, so I am shaving the whiskers daily. :(

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One of the most embarrassing aspects of PCOS, besides the beluga whale belly, is the facial hair growth. How do you handle it? I'm thinking of waxing it off. I'm sick of the excess beard!

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