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2/15/09 10:40 P

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I totally agree with the low blood sugar feeling telling your body to eat, eat, eat!! When my doc put me on Metformin it has really helped. It's not like I've lost a lot of weight more quickly..but it's been easier. Before I had to eat every 2-3 hours. I HAD to otherwise I'd get the low blood sugar and feel like I had to eat otherwise I felt miserable - shakey, weak, headache, overwhelmed. Once on the Metformin I just felt hunger. (And boy, hunger is much easier to deal with than low blood sugar.) I didn't feel like I had to self-medicate with food the way I did before as if I were an addict. And I mean that seriously.

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DICHOTOMYGIRL's Photo DICHOTOMYGIRL Posts: 1,580
2/11/09 11:54 A

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What you said about opening the gate reminded me of something I read in the IR diet book.

About how when you eat a meal heavy in carbs, and it causes your insulin to spike, which eventually causes your blood sugar to drop, and it's the low blood sugar that makes your brain tell you "I'm starving! Eat Carbs!"

It is SUCH a vicious cycle!

~Michelle~


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CECE0330's Photo CECE0330 Posts: 3,442
2/10/09 1:44 P

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Yup....those foods totally do me in. And the crappy thing is once I open the gate, then BOOM....the cravings go into overdrive.

I feel better at least understanding my body now, and even when my cals are under max, if I am showing a gain, I remind myself that I need to make better food choices. Just another reason I am SO glad I found Spark! Trying to lose without it was pretty much impossible for me.

Thanks, everyone! emoticon


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2/9/09 1:56 P

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Wouldn't surprise me - I know chips, pizza and fast food all make me gain 1-5 pounds the next day if I eat it.

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2/9/09 1:51 P

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I have read that PCOS prevents our bodies from metabolizing carbs like normal people. Because we can't metabolize simple carbohydrates as readily as we should, when we eat them, they basically get stored as fat. Ugh. Unfortunately, cake, pizza, bread, pretty much anything that tastes good falls into this category.
Try to stick to whole grains and if you just have to have some simple carbs, go for a half a serving and no more in one day. (I personally find that if I give into a little bit, it sends me into a crazy tailspin and I can't stop).
Like everyone else has said, only weigh yourself once a week at the same time of day (I do mornings). Any more than that, and your weight can flucuate just due to how recently you ate or drank, water retention, etc.
Luckily you are not alone to suffer through PCOS, we are all here to offer you support. Good luck!

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2/9/09 10:32 A

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I think Sweet Sunshine got it pretty right. The weight gain was my biggest problem before I knew I had PCOS / IR. I could lose weight when I dieted by the book, but when I ate "bad" food (even thought the calories should have been in maintainence mode) I gained weight like crazy.

In fact it was due to that kind of weight gain that I gave up, and gained back 73 of the 83 pounds I had lost. Of course, I later went to the DR. got diagnosed, got some metformin, got educated, and have lost about 40 pounds since last May.

The big chance I have noticed with the Metformin, is that in my case, when I eat "bad" (in moderation), I don't get as many weight fluctuations.

One thing that also really helped is reading the Insulin Resistance Diet. Limiting the amount of Carbs that you have in a 2 hr. time period, and always linking them with protein helps as well.

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2/8/09 8:40 A

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I may not have this completely right, but here goes...

Over 80% of us Cysters have Insulin Resistance (personally, I think it's actually more than that, but that's just me). IR causes excess insulin to "float around" in the body, because it's not all being used. Excess insulin prevents fat from being burned, and tells the body to store more fat faster. Eating easily-processed or pre-processed carbs ("bad" carbs), especially if it's not balanced out, increases IR, which makes there to be more excess insulin in your body.

So, what this means is that eating junk keeps you from burning fat, and makes you store even more fat. Also, because it takes your body a few days to "recover", even if you go right back "on the waggon", it will still be a few days before your weight starts to return to what it was. Add in the effects of excess sodium, causing water retention, and you can REALLY throw yourself off after a "bad" weekend!

The good news... If you do "go on a bender", you CAN recover from it by going really strict for a few days. Just don't weigh yourself every day or you'll go nuts! Use this as a gauge to figure out how much you can treat yourself, but still lose weight over-all. My Naturopathic Doctor (ND) says that to maintain, sticking to the wholesome way of living 80% is pretty good. If you want to lose, though, you have to go stricter, but remember to keep some space open for "living".

Does this help explain? emoticon


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2/6/09 8:07 P

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Not sure if it's related to PCOS, but this is what I know..

If I eat too much sodium my weight goes up
If I don't drink 8+ cups of water my weight goes up
If I don't eat enough protein my weight goes up..

Oh heck, looking at food causes my weight to go up :) But yeah our bodies are so confusing!!

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2/5/09 10:17 A

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Thanks! I haven't read that book, but I think I'll check it out next time I go into the book store.

I TRY to stick to weekly weigh-ins, but being on vacation, I was so worried about my weight going up, I found myself jumping on the scale more often-you know: wanting to avoid that horrible shock of a big gain from one week to the next. *sigh* I did weigh myself again today, after 3 days of being VERY good in my carb consumption and water drinking, and am back down to 195-so just .2 over last Wednesday.

I KNOW that I need to be constantly vigilant about my food choices, and this past week really drove that point home.


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2/5/09 8:34 A

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I don't fully understand the science behind it either, but yes if I overdo the bad carbs I notice a disproportionate impact on my weight. It is crazy-making. I don't notice the same impact if I go over my calorie range with good carbs, and the good carbs dont seem to trigger my cravings either. I cope by trying to stick to complex, whole grain and vegetable/fruit based carbs, especially when I am at or over my calorie range. Not as much fun but less damage. I also try really hard to not weigh myself more than once a week, and that limits the emotional damage. Stay the course, take any set back as an opportunity to learn and give yourself a pat on the back for working hard. Even with set backs you can keep forward momentum and you will see the results in your health in the long-term.

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2/4/09 9:00 P

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i do, and i don't understand it either. have you read any of dr vliet's books? i haven't yet, heard they are good.

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2/4/09 4:54 P

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when you give in to the (bad) carb cravings? This is what frustrated me before, and prompted me to throw the scale out. Now, i find myself in the same boat:
On January 27 (my b-day) I weighed in at 194, down 1.5 from the day before. Since TOM was winding down, I figured I had gotten rid of any bloating, etc (and woo-hoo, nice b-day present!)

I was good that day, though I did have Chuck E Cheese pizza, and a piece of cake (a very moderate piece) and some light ice cream. The next morning, I weighed in at 194.8. So I figured, OK....the loss from the previous day was more than I expected, plus I ate more salty & sugary foods, so I thought it was justified. Well. Then, as I have a tendency to do, I started CRAVING the bad carbs: jelly beans, ritz crackers, any kind of bread, really.

I was on vacation last week, and being out of my normal daily routine, I DID lapse in the food department Thurs-Sun. I ate worse than normal, however, I don't believe I went over 1800-2000 calories on any given day. It was just junky food being eaten. I did still workout Thurs and Sat, and drank maybe 4-6 glasses of water daily.

So Monday I weigh in, and am shocked to see 197.2. That means I would have GAINED 2.5 lbs in 4 days? It's not like I was sitting around stuffing my face all day, and I've been at this long enough to have a good idea of calories/serving sizes. Determined to not get side-tracked, I drank a ton of water yesterday, made wiser food choices, and worked out. Weight this morning was 196.6, which is still 2lbs over what I was 6 days ago.

I just don't understand. The only thing I can think of is the whole PCOS factor. Does it make your body that out of whack to go heavy on bad carbs? I don't think this happens to "normal" people, does it? Normal people don't gain 2-3 lbs in a couple days when the numbers don't support such a gain: It's not like I consumed an extra, what, 1600 calories x 2 or 3 to gain that much? And I don't THINK it's hormonal, as I'm only on cycle day 13, with a normal cycle length (based on good carb choices) of 33-34 days.

Anyone experience this? It's so darn frustrating, and I just want to understand why my body is so crazy.


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