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1/18/09 1:13 A

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In the past I was on the WW core plan and lost 30 lbs. That's not a low carb diet.........Every BODY is different even if we all share the same condition. Do what works for you. I refuse to take any medications, only acupuncture. That's what works for me.

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6/18/08 9:56 A

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Krista, I'm pretty new here and admit I was stunned by some of the things I read, but please don't leave!! The support is so important, and don't let a few ruin that for you. From what I have seen, most of the women here are very helpful, if all the good people leave, it is a disservice to everyone else that can be helped by this type of support. Just my thoughts :)

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*Additional 8 lbs by August 21st

*Additional 12 lbs by October 29th

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6/18/08 9:16 A

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I just wanted to say that I am leaving this group based on some of the interactions on this topic. I find it disturbing how a few people went after LEAVY1213 simply because she voiced her own opinions & experiences.

The thing I have always loved about Spark People is the positive attitudes & support I've received from others & to be honest, I was not feeling this here on this occasion.

I'm sure you are all wonderful women who each have their own struggles & issues to deal with regarding PCOS. I know its a frustrating disease, which is why support is so important. I wish you all well.
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6/17/08 12:19 P

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Auntheddie, sometimes our bodies just stick, even moreso with PCOS. 45 lbs is wonderful! You should be very proud of that. It may just be time to shake things up a little bit. Try cutting back on your carbs for a week, but if you are falling short on your calories, that is going to affect your cals. Try adding a few more low carb snacks in to hit your cals, you really need to get at least 1200 or your body may not like it. Sometimes you just have to experiment with other things, move calories around, trick your body, know what I mean? I would be happy to be your buddy if you need one!

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* Stay within Nutrition limits for month of June

*Lose 16 more lbs by July 17th

*Additional 8 lbs by August 21st

*Additional 12 lbs by October 29th

*Hit goal for good by end of 2009


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6/17/08 11:29 A

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I was doing so well on with my life style change. ( I hate the word diet and for me, I have to change my habits). I eliminated most of the refined carbs out of my diet. I don't drink soda, add sugar to anything, no white bread, pasta, potatoes, or rice. I gave up chips and snackys. The only thing I haven't given up is dark chocolate. I switched and when I get the craving, I indulge with a piece. (Which lately isn't all that often.) I have cut way back on my caffeine intake. I started working out more. I have lost 45lbs. Now I am stuck, but I have fallen off track this last few days. I really need to get back on track. The other problem I have been having is trying to meet my nutritional goals. I fall short in meeting the calories (1200-1550). I am not sure if I should lower my carb intake? Spark plan has me at 132 - 150. I feel like, I eat more now than I did prior to being diagnosed and starting the life style change. I am just trying to eat healthier and maintain my goals. I am having a hard time doing that. The weekends are killer for me, my honey is home and we have things going every weekend this summer.(Weddings, birthday parties, cookouts) So far, my honey has been wonderful with my dietary changes when I cook. He has no complaints and I think he enjoys the compliments as much as I do about my weight loss. I am not having a problem in the fitness section, I can stay motivated for that. I am feeling better and more energetic for the most part. I work outside often and stay on the go. When I am not on the go, I am doing Tae bo, on the Gazelle, or strength training. I just am having a hard time staying on the nutritional track, I need to be on. Any advise please? I have read the posts and am starting to think I need a Buddy.

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6/17/08 10:41 A

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I'm back to losing weight now that I've increased my carbs, I was going to back off, but I've just readjusted things. I've tried to stick to 150g or less, which is technically low carb (a real low carb diet, not fad, is eliminating white bread, sugar, pasta, desserts, sweets, processed foods, etc) but I also make sure I get at least 25g of fiber, and that the majority of my carbs come from fruit, veggies and whole grains. Doesn't always work out perfectly but for the most part it does. I've kept my calories low (1200-1400), my fat low and kept an eye on my saturated fat and sodium. It took me all year to lose 14 lbs, but I've lost 3-4 in 2 weeks since doing this, so something is working. I think I was scared of carbs, but all carbs are not created equal. I do watch what I eat more than ever and I take care to learn about what I'm putting in my mouth.

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* Stay within Nutrition limits for month of June

*Lose 16 more lbs by July 17th

*Additional 8 lbs by August 21st

*Additional 12 lbs by October 29th

*Hit goal for good by end of 2009


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6/17/08 7:41 A

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Personally I don't eat low carb. However I do keep it between 150-200gs a day, & everytime I eat carbs I eat protien, something I didn't do before. I have tried low carb in the past & personally (this is just me) it left me with no energy at all & horribley constipated. I spoke to a nutritionist who works with woman with PCOS extensively & she said as long I keep my calories on the lower side & keep fat & carbs in a resonable range & exercise, I will lose weight. & shes right. I have lost 21 lbs in 2 months, I have lots of energy & feel great. I realise some people swear by low carb, & if it works for you, thats great. My Endrocrinologist told me that every woman with PCOS have different issues to work on, some are more Insulin resistant than others, some aren't insulin resistant at all, therefore carbs would effect them more than others.

Bottom line, do whats best for you. Aim to be healthy, exercise more, eat better, be positive & support each other. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't have any friends or family with PCOS so I rely on you bunch to help, support & motivate me to do the right things. Play nice :)

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6/16/08 11:38 P

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At the risk of starting something up, I thought I should point out that perhaps the miscommunication about low-carb diets is in the terminology--PCOS is often accompanied/sometimes thought to be caused by Insulin Resistance. People with IR can't process carbs the same way as "normal" people, so cutting carbs or sticking to whole-grain/healthy carbs is necessary for them. However, PCOS doesn't necessarily mean that you have Insulin Resistance, and I've encountered women with IR who can tolerate many more carbs than I can. So there's room here for everyone to be right.

And I have a new tip for weight loss...taking small steps. So many times we don't start something healthy because it seems overwhelming, but I've had a lot of success breaking things up into small bits. For example...exercise. I never had an HOUR to dedicate to exercise, so I never started a regimen. But when I went in with the attitude that every little bit helped, and only did five or ten minutes when I could, I was able to do that. Then I had more energy, which I put into more exercise. It took me nearly three months to work up to it, but I finally have an hour dedicated to exercise three days a week. Now I'm working on five days a week. emoticon

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6/6/08 11:55 A

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cruisegirl, I enjoyed reading your post. You have a lot of good info in there. Good for you for getting your life together and focusing on health instead of being obsessed with weightloss.

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Thank you Cruisgirl ;)

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6/5/08 7:13 P

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Many of you have discussed dietary issues and I think that the other side needs to be equally represented in these tips exercise... I realize that we all have different routines but I sit at a desk most of my day and have found that for me the most important thing is getting up during the day and moving around. I have made a habit since January with one of my co workers/friends to take at least 30 minute walks around the town either to grab lunches or whatever. This has not only helped me to stay focused in the afternoon but it has added 30 minutes to my cardio daily.
Now, let me say this is not my only exercise I also do the p90x system which is both weight training and cardio and try to do ab training every morning. I have not been the most successful in weight loss but I am very healthy, have lots of energy and a positive attitude.
Hope this helps. Enjoy the journey you may never reach the destination.
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6/5/08 4:27 P

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Wow, put a bunch of non-menstruating women together and look what you get :p

My 2 cents. I've seen specialist after specialist. The last basically told me "What PCOS means to your body is you don't process carbohydrates the same way most people do, your body has a harder time especially with anything processed". Made sense to me and I have no reason not to believe it, it makes sense, because of what my body has done over the last 3 years.

So, for me, I was low carb (I mean LOW) for many months but started feeling fatigued and my BP was going up. Dr said I was going too low and to add carbs (fruits, whole grains, sensible, low-fat, etc) Which is what I've been doing. I've gone nuts on it though, because I'm up to about 150g net carbs a day. So I'll be backing off, but even at the amount I'm having now, I'm still getting the majority of my carbs from fruit, whole grains, veggies, etc. I also make sure I get a lot of fiber and supplement if needed. I keep my saturated fat below 10. I don't eat fast food (I don't even try to fool myself into thinking any of it could be good, I don't need the temptation. Go in thinking I'll order a grilled chicken on whole wheat and leave with a burger and fries :p). I take LOTS of supplements, including Cinnamon which I'm convinced has graced me with 2 periods this year when I've averaged 1 a year for the last 3 years. I got off the Metformin (it made me sick and I hate medication). I drink LOTS of plain water, I don't allow myself anything that isn't water until I've had at least 10 glasses (except for 8 oz of Fuze Slenderize sometimes), after that, I allow myself a diet green tea, or a diet rite, glass of wine, iced decaf coffee, etc. Exercise is key, cardio and strength training.

That said, I think my number one tip would be this: Something really important is attitude, sense of well being, and taking care of ourselves mentally. PCOS is a very difficult thing to deal with. Some of the symptoms are not only painful, but embarassing. It can leave emotional scars and make us emotional wrecks in the process. It can cause lack of sleep, lashing out, despression, etc. I think this is one of the keys to conquering everything PCOS throws our way. You have to be mentally able to battle, you can't do a halfway job of it. If you only got 3 hours of sleep, how are you going to take on the day and battle PCOS? Answer is, you aren't. You are going to make excuses, and most likely, blame PCOS. If you are depressed, you won't be able to fight it either. Whatever you have to do to get your mind right, do it, that is a huge step in fighting back. I know when I finally did through cognitive behavior therapy, my life turned around. I stopped being consumed with losing weight and started being consumed with being happy and healthy. Once you get there, I think the rest comes much easier. Just my 2 cents.

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*Lose 16 more lbs by July 17th

*Additional 8 lbs by August 21st

*Additional 12 lbs by October 29th

*Hit goal for good by end of 2009


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6/5/08 1:13 P

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Congratulations on giving birth not once, but twice!! Gives hope to people with PCOS who want to have kids!!

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6/5/08 1:10 P

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Ok, Going off of the totally beaten path here since the discussion has gotten deleted. We are women so we naturally are attracted to a little drama now and then, makes life interesting. But to the reason why I'm posting

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I WANT TO CONGRADULATE ALL OF YOU FOR ANY AMOUNT OF WEIGHT LOSS YOU HAVE ACHIEVED. You are winners regardless of the #.
I have suffered from PCOS since I was preadolescant. Although I did not know until I was 24. I found out by going to a fertility specialist trying to get pregnant *IT IS POSSIBLE-I AM PROOF* After a series of test, and all medication I conceived on 4/22/03 with my first daughter Hope. My second daughter Faith was much appreciated surprise from God. Back to discussion here.lol. I tend to ramble. After my first daughter I gained 50 lbs of fluid weight preeclampsia and lost it all within 3 days after delivery. I went on the No carb Atkins diet because we were going on a cruise and I knew it would be the fastest (by no means the easiest) I lost 42 lbs and went from a size 22 to a size 18 for the cruise. I was ecstatic. BUT...Upon returning I went back to eating what I wanted when I wanted, hence gaining all the weight +30 back. Which brought me to a staggering 200lbs. I got pregnant Dec 2006 with second daughter gained 20 lbs, lost after delivery. Still left me at 200, I received IUD, (which was advised causes about 10lbs weight gain) so I go to 210. In the last 21 months since my last daughter was born I have gain an addition 36lbs and brings me to 246 MY Current Weight. I am only 4'10" now although I mentioned that I had used the No to Low carb diet earlier, and Southbeach has been recommended more that once. My weight bothers me, but never irritated me until I was refused a breast reduction surgery because my weight puts me at High Risk for Blood Clots. Thanks to all you WONDERFUL ladies I learned something noone bothered to tell me, that we special ladies with PCOS have a problem with carbs apparently. That would explain so much that I can't put in to words. So sorry this is so long. But I hope you understand what I was trying to say.

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Whew! Okay, now that we all are aware that you can lose weight w/ or w/o being on a low-carb diet if you have PCOS (LOL), I just wanted to go back to the original inquiry by stating what I do to lose weight. I lost 9 pounds in the first 9 days. I am on the Fat Smash diet, and it has worked wonders for me. Granted, I just started on this new plan (I am on Week 2 1/2), but that is a good start! This is (thankfully) NOT a low-carb diet; it discourages ONLY white and simple carbs (as the earlier posts mentioned). So, I'm "allowed" to eat brown rice and beans from day one. Even while eating those things daily for 9 days, I still lost 10 pounds.

So, I just wanted to provide my number 1 tip so far even though it was already mentioned previously: eat simple/white carbs only in moderation. Try to steer away from them by being creative with dishes that include healthier carb and non-carb options (e.g., the Sweet Potato Fries someone mentioned below or Mock Cornbread (main ingredient? beans). Thanks for this post; it makes me even happier and pleased with my dietary program!

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5/30/08 1:44 A

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Well since I am the one to have sparked this whole insanity of what to eat and what not to eat, I felt the need to come and clear the air!

First off, I have never Apeybaby had any of the 6 dr's I have seen tell me that low carb or GI diet is the only diet for PCOS, and all of them were/are aware of my PCOS. What I have been told however is to eat healthy, to eat in moderation, have small meals and several. I've been told To cut the soda intake, but never been told to do low carb or GI diet or any other diet under the sun. And all of my dr's are well versed in PCOS. I won't see any dr who isn't.

Secondly! I don't eat the PB and honey Sand. Between every meal. I also have salad, or a little bit of cheese, I even have had fruit. My diet isn't solely made up of this one thing. It's made up of other healthy stuff. That fills me up, keeps me going through out my day, as well as keeps my mind mentally sharp. The PB and Honey is just a treat for me when I'm just going bonkers and need something sweet. It also keeps my b/s from falling so low it makes me ill. I'm on two medications for my diabetes. Which can at times cause a minor issue with my blood sugars.Which yes my dr is aware of how i combat it and says that it is fine.

Thirdly! Why is only a low carb diet is the only way to go with PCOS? Why can't there be other ways, such as WW's or Jenny Craig, or Half a dozen other diet plans out there, I'm sure they work. If they didn't including having weight lose surgery for those who so choose, then it wouldn't be out there for women with PCOS. Much less for anyone else, It wouldn't be marketed like it is.

My diet isn't worth arguing about honestly. It's my diet. It's what I can live with It's what I can do. You don't know me except for the words that are typed in a message. You don't know me personally to where, you know all my health issues, you don't know what I look like, much less do you know how much muscle I have on my body or how much I do in a work out.

All Leavy did voice her opinion that my diet isn't wrong for me, or hers for her.

Honestly If it doesn't work for you then don't pick it up. If it does, then by all means more power to you. This place is supposed to be about support. Not about demeaning other peoples diet choices.

In short let it go, and I hope I cleared the air in regards to my treat. As well as this has taught me a valuable lesson.

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5/29/08 8:32 P

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So, a peanut butter and honey sandwich on raison bread between meals IS a safe diet tip?

Now you feel attacked because of how I feel? Pot, meet Kettle

eta: every PCOS diet book ,message board and doctor stresses either low carb or the GI Diet (also, low carb)

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I know I said I wasn't going to say anything else, but first of all I am not going to let someone attack me and the way I eat. I must have missed something here on spark because I never saw ANYWHERE that it said you have to eat low carb to be healthy! There are other ways. I am NOT saying low carb is unhealthy, all I am saying is you don't HAVE to follow a low carb diet if you have PCOS.

I DON'T eat low carb, I DO have PCOS and I HAVE lost 35 pounds in 6 months! I am extremely healthy in what I eat. I eat whole grain bread, whole grain pasta, skim milk, veggies, fruit, and everything else healthy. And it is something I can stick with forever and not get tired of. So just because I don't eat low carb does not mean I am unhealthy. Secondly I know someone else on here who DOES have PCOS, and who DOESN'T eat low carb and has lost 80 pounds. She eats over 8 servings of fruit and veggies a day. She exercises over 60 minutes a day every day. She is not unhealthy in anyway.

So as I have stated already, you don't HAVE to eat low carb if you have PCOS. If it works for you great, but we should not be saying that everyone has to eat low carb. Also, I have never heard honey is bad if you have it sometimes. In fact, Spark has an article stating that honey is good in moderation. If you would like to read it here is the link www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutriti
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I wish you all luck in your weight loss and your quest to become healthy.

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Quoted by Leavey: "I just wanted it to be known that just because we have PCOS doesn't mean we HAVE to follow a low carb diet."

It does if you want to lose weight and be healthy. By all means, eat what you want. But, in a support setting for people with PCOS trying to lose weight posting about their number 1 tip..I would HOPE someone would step up and tell me I was doing something wrong. Or course a peanut butter and honey sandwich isn't going to make you graze anymore, but it will also not help you live healthy and promote weight loss (which is what I thought this whole site was dedicated to)


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I read everything that was said which is why I made the comment and I will only say one more thing too...I still feel that just because we have PCOS (I have it too or else I wouldn't be on this team) doesn't mean you SHOULD or HAVE to follow a low carb diet. What I am saying is that it is not always a one size fits all. So just because she is or isn't following the low carb diet doesn't mean what she or anyone else is doing is wrong. That's all I am saying. So sometimes "giving advice" comes across to others as being rude or unhelpful and just attacking. (Although I know mine did too, I just wanted it to be known that just because we have PCOS doesn't mean we HAVE to follow a low carb diet.)

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STYLGRL((me)) wrote waaay down in this thread:"I don't want to sound critical here, but I would feel badly if I don't share my thoughts on the previous post, ( no disrespect to you Lovely). It is my understanding that honey is a definite no-no, (bad carb). The raisin bread as well, (unless it is made with whole grain flour). Peanut butter .. yes, if it is the natural/low sugar product. Otherwise, having this much sugar would send my system into CRAVE MODE. I would appreciate anyone else's thoughts on this, this sandwich could be right for some on a different dieting regime perhaps.. For me. I have to severely limit carbs.. sweets,white flour and sugar..are no-no's. Chris"
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I'm going to assume you refer to me in your post Leavy, as this seems to be where the controversy regarding "grazing" began. I encourage you to re-read my words (judgemental?). I say these are my thoughts and ad "this sandwich could be right for some on a different dieting regime".Please also re-read the opening sentence. What you don't know, is that I also sent a very nice private note to Lovley at the time and another person that critiqued me later in this thread re-read Lovley's original post, and sent me a letter of apology..(also in private) because she had misunderstood Lovely's original post. I still stand behind my comment, as this is a team for women with PCOS.., and following a low carb/no sugar diet. I'm sorry if you feel there's judgemental conversation going on here. That is not my intent. If I were to post that I have a wonderful remedy to conquer my cravings for popcorn at the movies.. I just have a hot fudge sundea and poof..no more cravings" i would hope that someone would see something wrong in this and correct me. Good luck to you with your weight loss endeavor. This..is the last thing I will say regarding this.

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I am going to put my two cents worth in here. I have been a member of this team since I started, but really haven't posted here. Just lurked. I have two other teams that I am totally active on so don't have time to be everywhere all the time.

I know what I am going to say is going to cause an uprising, but I am going to say it anyway. I don't necessarily think that the ONE SIZE FITS ALL attitude is right. What is right for one person might not be right for another. As long as it fits in their calories and they are happy with it and they are seeing results and can sustain it indefinitely then why are you being judgemental about it? If it causes them to stop grazing and eat JUST that why does it matter? I don't do low carbs, I could not do that forever and that is what this is about, this is about finding something we can do forever so we can be healthy and not just be on it to lose the 50 pounds and then stop and go right back to where we were plus some. I have lost 35 pounds to date in basically 6 months (the first month with Thanksgiving and Christmas were almost non existant with the weight loss). I eat healthy and within my ranges and exercise 5 times a week. But what I do may not be right for someone else. Or what someone else does may not be right for me. In the end it comes down to what WE can do now and ultimately forever. Not what someone else does or can do. As long as we are eating healthier (not necessarily 100% of the time either) and exercising and we feel better that is all that matters.

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Thank you for your reply. I actually lost 80+ pounds back in '06, here at sparkpeople. I did it inspite of my IR/PCOS, because I did 2 hours of cardio everyday and ate about 1400 calories. (about 4-500 less than I should have) However, that lifestyle wasn't really very sustainable to me.

And because of my IR (which I didn't realize at the time), as soon as I started eating enough to maintain, I actually started GAINING weight like crazy.

This time around I am hoping to find something that I can actually live with. I am hoping that the Metformin, will help enough that I can do a slower less obsessive version of what I did last time.



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Not really. Better to get the carbs under control. You might want to check out the IR Diet, where you do eat good carbs..but with a protein. Personally, i have found eliminating all bad carbs and limiting even the good ones helps, along with keeping my blood sugars stable by eating something (clean) every three hours. I will ad, i was eating the healthy heart way..for 1 year after haing a heart attack, i gained 15 pounds. Heathy heart eating is high fiber/low fat...translation..higher carbs/sugar. Best of luck to you. different things work for all of us. Welcome!

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Hi everyone, I am new to this team, and new to PCOS as well. (Well, actually, I think I've had it a really long time, but thanks to going to the doctor for the first time in like 10 years, I am newly diagnosed.)

I really really struggle with the low carb thing, because the more I restrict my carbs, the more I tend to eventually end up binging and eating everything in sight.

Wouldn't it be better to eat more carbs and eat less overall, then to eat less carbs and end up binging?

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Great idea for "grazing". I also work from home. Plus my very thin fit Hub's has a bit of a sweet tooth for his evening snack time. Therefore i always have some kind of goodie around for him. Unlike my single days when I could keep a "clean" pantry, (we've been married for 6 years(.. I have found that I HAVE to have easy to grab appropriate snacks for myself..or I'm tempted to nibble on the wrong things. Luckily, he's easy to please, I usually just have one option for him, it's not like my kitchen is full of goodies.

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Great suggestions in here! I'm still just adjusting (diagnosed 2 weeks ago) to what I need to do. I did great the first week and horrible this week. I'm starting clean tomorrow morning. I'm a grazer and I found that having a a cut up veggie tray in the fridge gives me a super easy go to snack. I work from home so I'm always tempted by everything in the fridge so this has really helped me.

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I'm another one who "grazes" but I don't do random grazing any more. I bring a certain quantity of food to work and graze on that throughout the day, keeping my blood sugars balanced, but not adding a ton of calories by eating lots of random food without realizing it.



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I just re-read her post. Yes, her tip is to stop grazing, i understand. But, I still stand behind my previous post. Her remedy to curb grazing was as harmful as grazing. Peanut butter and honey on raisin bread is not an appropriate snack for women with PCOS. I tried to say this as delicately as possible adding that "I intend no disrespect". We are here to support, encourage and learn from one another. Now that we are back on the subject RE: grazing. My Doctor has suggested that I DO graze. Eating small amounts of healthy foods throughout the day keeps the blood sugars stable and you'll get less cravings.

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stylgirl,
i'm pretty sure that Lovely was saying that she DIDN'T graze anymore (on those things that you mentioned weren't good for you) and THAT was her "Number 1 Tip" - to stop grazing

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It's so easy to lose perspective and want to see results faster...but 10 lbs since February is actually pretty good. If you keep that up for a year, that's 40 lbs gone forever!

It takes really dramatic effort to see really dramatic results...and more than .5-1 lbs per week is dramatic, regardless of what the weight loss industry would lead us to believe.
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Tori.. I "just" came home from seeing my Doctor. Your last post is toooo amazingly close to what he just suggested to me. He was very happy that i have lost 10 pounds since february. I.. on the other hand feel disappointed in that number and wish it were higher. After discussing my exercise and eating plan. He said "sorry, you'll need to exercise more and eat less". He also suggested counting the amount of calories, as you stated, low carb and healthy clean foods are wonderful, but one could still consume too many calories to be successful at weight loss. The good news is, in EVERY other way I'm perfectly healthy, (I'm a heart patient). So..with your added "SPARK", tomorrow it's 45 minutes on the treadmill, followed by some kind of weight lifting. ((and a little less salad dressing )). Thanks!

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I went to see your food/exercise logs, but could only see your exercise. Looks to me like you're getting a decent amount of cardio, but no strength training. Try adding weights to see if that helps.
Also, make sure you're measuring what you eat. It's important to eat the right foods, but it's also important to eat the right amount of those foods. Personally, I am not always tuned in to internal cues (like feeling full) so I have to measure and control my external cues (by not serving myself more food than my calories will allow.) It's helpful to control carbs and eat low GI, but it's still possible to get too many calories to lose weight on those plans.
As for books that list good foods, there are lots of opinions on that, but South Beach Diet and anything based around the Glycemic Index or the IR diet are a good start.
Hope this helps!



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I KNOW that I eat all the correct food, and I use my treadmill daily. Last week I was proud of myself for actually running on the treadmill. By the end of the week my clothes felt tighter and i feel all fat and uncomfortable. I have gained 3 pounds. I promise I ate clean..and sweat allot. PCOS or whatever "fat demon" has possessed my body makes dieting quite frustrating. I'm actually heading out to my Doctor for a previously scheduled appointment. We'll see what he might have to say/suggest. I'll share with the class later. So, regarding your question..(sorry..I digress):O) If you feel like you are eating right..perhaps you are. Rule of thumb, no sugar or white flour. No sweets. Limit fruit.Limit artificial sweetener and processed foods. Any low carb/low glycemic index food chart would help you. Good luck. Chris

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Hey is there a book or something that lists all the good foods? I feel like I'm eating & exercising right but the scale is still going up..maybe its muscle gain, but i dunno :(

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Besides restricting white carbs, strength training is a huge help in weight loss for women with PCOS. Especially those of us who have high testosterone...might as well make it work for you!
Plus, it lowers insulin resistance!

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LOL Stylgrl, I've never had trouble with drinking water...when I found out that I couldn't take water on a plane, I thought I'd dehydrate!

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That's wonderful! I seem to have to lose 20 lbs. to lose a dress size. I guess I'm dense! emoticon

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For me it's been South Beach. I know I need a low carb diet for me to lose thanks to the PCOS. WW doesn't cut it as I can still have carbs if I want.

I've made an effort to only eat "good" carbs. And it's working. I'm 2 size smaller then when I started and almost 20 lbs lighter :)

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I used to do a low carb diet, but I had no energy, and I was desperately hungry all the time. Now I eat more carbs, but avoid "white" foods. I have more energy and no longer fantasize about food all the time.

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Wow, MC, sounds like we could go grocery shopping together, i also drink a heathy shake, every morning for breakfast. Currently I'm doing the challenge, (committed to 30 min 5 days a week of cardio). I need to exercise more consistently and drink the water.. glug..glug. :o) my dietary program is going well. ((are you back from vacation??) or not left yet?
May today be a productive weight loss day for all!!! Chris

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Cut all processed foods!

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STYLGRL WROTE: "I don't want to sound critical here, but I would feel badly if I don't share my thoughts on the previous post, ( no disrespect to you Lovely). It is my understanding that honey is a definite no-no, (bad carb). The raisin bread as well, (unless it is made with whole grain flour). Peanut butter .. yes, if it is the natural/low sugar product. Otherwise, having this much sugar would send my system into CRAVE MODE. I would appreciate anyone else's thoughts on this, this sandwich could be right for some on a different dieting regime perhaps.. For me. I have to severely limit carbs.. sweets,white flour and sugar..are no-no's. Chris"

Stylgrl, it's a sad fact that some of us can handle more carbs than others. I'm in the same boat as you, I have to severely limit carbs and I think any carbs set off cravings, but some women are able to handle more just fine.


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1) Limit carbs--I started losing weight *before* the metformin because of limiting carbs, and I feel soo much better now, lots of energy and better sleep.

2) Plenty of fiber! At least one small salad a day, as many veggies as I can stand. This is especially helpful if you have colon cancer in your family.

3) Exercise--again, I have lots more energy now! And it gives you a sense of accomplishment, it really does.

4) Get enough protein! Not just meat, either--you need seeds/nuts as well. I supplement Omega 3, 6, & 9 for heart health. But I also drink a whey shake every day, it helps curb my appetite (they're filling!) and my doctor swears by them. I made a comment about being afraid of them preventing me from losing weight, and he said I wouldn't lose the weight without them.

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:o) that sounds like a day in the life of "me".--- well..the kind of day I strive for anyway. Thanks, Chris

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6 meals per day, low carb/glycemic index, no sugar/white flour, extremely limited grains, very limited sweet fruits.

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I don't want to sound critical here, but I would feel badly if I don't share my thoughts on the previous post, ( no disrespect to you Lovely). It is my understanding that honey is a definite no-no, (bad carb). The raisin bread as well, (unless it is made with whole grain flour). Peanut butter .. yes, if it is the natural/low sugar product. Otherwise, having this much sugar would send my system into CRAVE MODE. I would appreciate anyone else's thoughts on this, this sandwich could be right for some on a different dieting regime perhaps.. For me. I have to severely limit carbs.. sweets,white flour and sugar..are no-no's. Chris

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I usually graze....i mean seriously graze through my house. I've managed to bust that by a 2 tbsp peanutbutter and 1tbsp honey sandwhich. on raisin bread.

I've stopped grazing! I'm not ready to eat everything in my house.



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Oh, and MEETING those daily goals, too!

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Excercise, allbeit hard to do, is the ultimate key to being healthy. I recall being in the ER for chest pains in early Feb. thinking it was a side effect for some thyroid medication I had only been on for 6 days. I had a ton of tests run, EKG, enzyme profiles, etc. The good news: My heart is in excellent condition! Despite the news that obese women are at a higher risk for heart disease, I believe that it is possible for women to be fit while being "fat" (news article on yahoo this week confirms the results). I always push myself to go a little farther than the time before, I may not be fast, but I am indeed strong! That knowledge alone boosts my self-esteem! You GO girls! I think setting a goal on a daily basis also helps with self-esteem. emoticon

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this is really helpful... i think exercise is really important too. granted i could do SSSOOOOO much better with everything but even if the weight doesnt come off at least you know you are doing soemthing good for your body... which is my case

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Really limit "white" carbs, and eat protein with every meal. Ok, that's two, but still ... emoticon

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I've started eating on a Zone ratio diet, and it has done wonders for keeping me balanced, full, and generally functional. Essentially, that means that 30% of my calories are from lean carbs and 40% are from low-glycemic index carbs (high fiber, whole grain, whole fruits/veggies), and that leaves 30% from good fats (olive oil, nuts, etc.). As long as I include all three in any meal/snack, I am good.

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I have to tell you that I have pretty muhc given up white carbs. Everything in my house is whole or multi grian. All my pastas & breads. I use chick pea or whole wheat flour as much as possible and I use brown rice instead of white, for the most part. Giving up carbs entirly is not good for your health, in the long run. It leads to gount and liver problems just to start. I do still eat a potatoe hear and there. I do love yams better then a regular potatoe though.
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I totally believe that, too! Just a taste can lead to wanting so much more....I have stopped putting sugar in my coffee and my hot tea. I don't eat bread too often unless it's whole grain. We eat alot of leafy greens and lean proteins, so it's kind of like a South Beach Diet. Except for I eat alot of fruit, too, and many fruits are not listed with the South Beach Diet because of the natural sugar content. I believe that if it's natural, it just can't be all that bad for you!

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This was a great idea to post...I look forward to hearing from everyone else as well.

I try to eat more protein (lean meats, seafood)than carb and eat dark green vegetables; I've been eating a lot of broccoli and fresh baby spinach leafs (which reminds me I ran out of both). For example if I'm eating 30g in carbs then I make sure to eat at least 15 or more grams of protein. Protein balances out the carbs when grams are just a little under half the amount of grams in carbs. Very little amounts of fruit, because of its natural sugar, content. I do about 1, 2 servings at the most in my daily fruit intake. When I do eat fruit I either eat berries or sour fruits (grapefruit, lemons, plums,etc). Another way to eat fruit is to eat it before it completely ripens so that it is less sweet.

Definitely, if not anything else, EXERCISE is #1. Don't underestimate it; especially strength training and walking.

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I'm also a huge fan of sweet potatoes, I just cut in half lengthwise, rub with a bit of olive oil and roast face down on a cookie sheet, half for me half for the Hubs. My daughter has trouble giving up the potatoes though, I just try to remind her, "what is better.. that potato or being h a healthy weight?" Back to the original posted query though, my Doc also says south Beach, especially since i'm also a heart patient. But I also limit artificial sweeteners, I've read that they can also cause insulin to spike in turn causing more cravings. Eating every three hours is another craving buster..and WATER. We all know what to eat and not to eat it seems, getting the cravings under control is key for me to stay clean on my diet. Once i "cheat" and have some insignificant amount of a carb, like a teeeny tiny edge of brownie....my cravings are off and running. So, theres my tip, Chris

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Tommie, it's not that you can't ever have them, just less frequently. Sweet potatoes (skins included) are a better choice, if you like them. They make awesome homefries, are great roasted and baked and mashed, and my favorite? Oven fries! Tossed with a little olive oil and spices, then baked at 425 for 20-25 min (depending on the size of the fries)--perfect!

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Oh man, but I LOVE potatoes. I can live without bread and pasta, but I love roasted potatoes, baked potatoes, twice-baked potatoes, mashed potatoes, potatoes au-gratin, hash browns, baked tater tots, homefries.........AAAAAHHHH!!!

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Hope you all dont mind that I started this thread. Since I am new and a lot of others are too. It would be very helpful to hear everyone elses best tips. My #1 tip is to Eat carbs in moderation. My fertility doc said south beach diet is wonderful for pcos.

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