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4/21/08 10:50 P

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Thank you, me too... THAT was not a fun time. :o)

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4/21/08 9:42 P

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Wow! I take Lipitor to get my cholesterol *down* to 140. Probably genetics for me too, though I'll be thrilled if it turns out to be PCOS and I can get off the Lipitor. I'm sorry to hear about your heart attack! Here's hoping you never have a repeat.

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4/21/08 8:38 A

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:o) Thanks for the clarification, ( I am a blonde hairdresser) hehe, and for realizing I was being a bit humorous. I had a heart attack last year, but my cholesterol at the time was 140 total, now with the help of diet and Lipitor..it's a whopping 99 total! The LDL is 49, I should say I'm quite lucky considering this study. My attack was due to atherosclerosis, which basically means whatever plaque I do have is sticky and heads right for my arteries. I've been told it's genetic, my father had the same. I also believe my mother had PCOS although it wasn't diagnoses as such back then, but I know she had the symptoms..yay for genetics.:o)

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4/20/08 9:53 P

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LMAO

Well, I'm not a doctor, but my understanding of it is...a study found that women with PCOS and without, of similar weight, cholesterol levels were similar but good cholesterol was lower in the PCOS women, in both obese and "lean" women. Other studies have found that high bad cholesterol is the most common cholesterol abnormality in PCOS women, even if they're not obese. The rest of it was unnecessary, I'm sorry I copied it--I was reading about it in an article on a study done to determine what the differences in diagnosing PCOS were between endocrinologists and OBGYNs.

I just thought it was interesting, and I had already mentioned cholesterol here. LOL.



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4/20/08 7:18 P

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I have one thing to say. . . . HUH? :o) That was WAAAYYY too deep for me. (smile)

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4/20/08 11:04 A

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Hiya! I was poking around the soulcysters site and found this, which seemed relevant. It's from the thread entitled Newbie Road Map, and it's the link for PCOS: Marked Differences between Endos and OBGYNs in Diagnosis and Management.

"Dyslipidaemia is a significant, modifiable risk factor for future cardiovascular disease. In one study comparing women with PCOS and weight-matched controls, total serum cholesterol levels were similar in both groups but high density lipoprotein (HDL)2-cholesterol was reduced in both obese and lean women with PCOS.[13] By contrast, other studies have found that elevated LDL is the predominant lipid abnormality in PCOS, independent of obesity.[14,15] Although endocrinologists were more likely to request a lipid profile on the index case, there was surprisingly no significant difference between the rate of lipid assessment between index and the older variation case in either respondent group, despite the increased risk of cardiovascular disease in older subjects."

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4/15/08 9:34 A

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I've never heard the cholesterol connection with PCOS, I had some cholesterol issues, but I have a family history through my father, so no one was really shocked. However, I managed to get my cholesterols entirely under control, and I attribute olive oil and egg whites (i have to limit the yolks, or I shoot back up) to that, as well as Smart Balance buttery spread if want some ideas.

Triglycerides often increase with insulin resistance
(high blood sugar affects them), so they are another story. Mine only came under control when I got on metformin, but I also take a daily fish oil supplement to help with that.

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4/15/08 12:43 A

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Also, the low HDL and high LDL and triglycerides are indicators of PCOS. I've been on a low-fat diet for at least fifteen years, and on Lipitor for at least two years, but neither have managed to satisfactorily manage the cholesterol. I've been told that's because of the PCOS.

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4/14/08 5:14 P

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Hi Lisa, I'm not in the medical field, however i am in the beauty business. Superfluous facial hair does not grow back black once you've shaved it. The blunt edge created by shaving vs waxing or plucking feels nubby and seems more noticeable because of this.If it's not too noticeable, I would recommend that you grow it out enough to wax, then the ends of each hair will have a softer tapered end, so no more nubbies,and you won't have to address it daily. But, the black has nothing to do with the fact that you shaved, so you can let go of feeling to blame.
I was diagnosed with PCOS from a combination of blood tests and symptoms. I do not have the multiple cysts that might seem typical.I do have "a" cyst. However, one could be diagnoses with PCOS without having any cyst. I also do no have alot of superfluous facial hair, just a few that I pluck on my chin. One might say many women my age, (50) might have such hair, however, this was all new and sudden for me. The weight gain,(although i was eating healthy) and I was unable to lose it eating a "heart healthy "diet was also new, (I also had a heart attack last year). Plus, my periods just stopped, and blood work also suggested that despite my age I am not in menopause yet. I also have IR. So, now I'm on Metformin and stopped taking one of my heart meds that also contributed to IR, my doctors both (general and cardio) agree that I should follow a more low carb eating plan, plus exercise. I feel better, more myself, and just recently after being on Metformin for 2 months, i've started to lose. Best of luck to you, and I'de have to say from what you've said it does sound like you've found the right team for you.


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4/14/08 3:59 P

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PCOS is complicated in terms of diagnostics because there isn't a "definitive" test. Some of us simply are diagnosed through the combination of symptoms: cysts, acne, hair growth, insulin resistance, apple body type, and very irregular cycling are all in. I would say it sounds like you qualify. I had an intravaginal ultrasound done that showed numerous tiny cysts inside both my ovaries, that's the closest I am aware of to being "certain". Sometimes, there are also increased/decreased levels of various hormones, that's the LH and FSH (h for hormone, ovulating ones in this case), mine never were outside the acceptable range. They can check for increased testosterone too. The other blood tests were insulin resistance related, the A1C and insulin serum, they could be high in someone with untreated insulin resistance (IR), again, mine have always been normal. I am on metformin for IR even without definitive bloodwork, and I feel much better on it. I'm also on birth control to keep my ovulation and periods normal, but not everyone does that. I don't know what antibodies they are looking for, I have never heard of antibodies in PCOS. You mentioned Hashimoto's which is an autoimmune thyroid disease, that would be antibodies. Thyroid conditions and PCOS are common together, but not yet medically related. My thyroid is currently normal, so I don't know much about it. I'm a biologist and my mother is a nurse practitioner, so I can answer many medical questions. Hope this helps.



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4/14/08 3:53 P

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Welcome. I have been told that insulin restistance is what causes PCOS and basically they are the same thing. I was diagnosed with PCOS and when I got pregnant is when the insulin resistance came up because I had to check my sugars three times a day and be on a diabetic diet. To me it sounds like you have PCOS, but some women have such a light case that they are not diagnosed with it. Good luck with everything and I hope your doctors figure things out because weight loss is hard enough without PCOS in the way.

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4/14/08 3:44 P

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Hi everyone, man i feel i have been all over spark trying to feel where i belong, and im still not certain if this is it or not. Ok i have not been officially diagnosed with anything at this moment. This is where it all began, last yr, i went to the doctor and was having some major pain in my ovaries, well they did an ultrasound and it came back that i had a cyst that they wanted to watch. Also they wanted me to go to an endo because i tested positive for antibodies and they through the term hoshmitos out there. Well when i got to the endo she asked me have i ever been diagnosed with pcos because of the acne on my chin, which is about the only place i break out and its almost cystic looking when it happens. I also get whiskers there but cant say what that is related too because when i was a teenager, they were blond so i did the dumb thing and shaved them and now i have to continue to do that or they get black, so i cant really say if that is due to any hormonal imbalance or not. Well i do know they did say i had a enlarged thryoid at the time. I also was diagnosed with insulin resistant. Well lets fast forward to now, ok i had a physical 2weeks ago, and i tested positive for antibodies again, but my gluclose was 105 so they wanted to do further test, so today i had an A1C test, and insulin serum test and two labs that are called LH and FSH done, now the last two i looked up on the web and it is dealing with hormones and there was the term PCOS thrown around. Im not sure what i go going on, but i have a friend who is a nurse and she brought me a blood gluclose monitor and i have been checking it and it has been fine. I do know i carry all my weight in my belly literally, my legs and arms are not the size they should be for someone of my weight, not that there skinny but they just arent that big, my belly looks like im carrying twins. I do know my menstrual has changed but not drastrically, and im blessed i have two children and my tubes are tied so if i do have PCOS i dont have to worry about having children. Im just curious though what test do they do to see if that is what it is, is it the two labs i had done, and have any of you have these labs done in the past. Im just a nervous wreck and i go talk to my doctor on friday about all the results. I do know my cholesterol isnt too bad, my ldl is a little high, 120 but not too bad but my hdl is very low, it is only 35, triglecerides were in the normal range.

Ok i know this is all over the place but would love some input or anything anybody would like to offer, does it sound like PCOS or something different.

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