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9/11/12 11:35 P

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I don't eat any grains anymore - and truthfully, I do not miss them at all.. And I feel better without them.

I like the Dr.s Eades and the Protein Power and Protein Power Lifeplan. I vary my food plan between that and the ketogenic principle (more fat, less protein). It does all seem to be working for me. But The Protein Power books make perfect sense to me as well.

I like the book (and ideas) of The Art and Science of Low Carb Living as well, it's a newer book..

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Protein Power is one of the best diets in my opinion. The 30 Day Low Carb Diet Solution is one of my all time favorite diet books. It's so easy to use. I subscribe to their blogs. I am a big fan of veggies. I eat about 4.5 cups a day if not more.

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9/11/12 6:48 A

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Congratulations to motheroffour! It sounds like you are on the right track!!!

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9/11/12 12:47 A

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WOW so much incredible information what a great community thank you all for taking the time to respond and help me.

Just to be clear. I am following the Protein Power book by Dr. Eades. It is high in good fats and protein and low in carbs. I try to stay under 30 a day for now. He calls it a Enough Protein diet since most people don't get enough. I am never tired on this diet and never really super hungry. I get hungry in the evening after dinner that is a bit rough but by morning I get up and workout most days on an empty stomach and I am fine. It's like you can tell when your body switches from glucose eater to fat eater! I have grown to like the fat eating phase! haha

Update on my progress! Since August 28 I have lost 3 and a half inches off my waist that has not budged at all for 3 months! My husband talked me into stopping the scale! I just get so defeated so I am going to weight less. I started at about 162 and now I am at 157 so it is some weight but looks like more on my body. I have to focus on physical change right now. So my new diet and exercise addition is really working. I think it just took a couple weeks for it to kick in and show. Everyone I see these days says oh my gosh look at you even the receptionist at the dentist office took me aside to ask advice!

I am also getting in so much better shape! I used to want to puke running stadiums and lifting weights and now I can do them much easier. It is exciting to know I will go into the next pregnancy so much more fit and ready to take that challenge on. I am thrilled.

Of course sticking with it is always a trick. I fall off the wagon some days like this saturday when we had a family dinner at a steakhouse. But I just make sure to get right back on the program the next morning. If I go 2 days cheating all the cravings come back and it just isn't worth fighting them. So I am pretty dedicated.

I cannot do this diet minus the dairy but I am trying to not eat it when I am not really wanting it. I skip it in my eggs and use veggies instead now.

I added more veggies. I have about 3 or 4 cups a day now including some spinach in my shakes, lots of broccoli cauliflower dishes and lettuce/cabbage a lot.

I try to keep things mixed up. Most days I aim for 1,300 calories in and 1,000 calories out through exercise which has been about 2 or 2 and a half hours these days. But some days I eat 2,000 calories or just don't workout. I try to keep my body guessing.

I don't really think I should go up in calories. 1,300 is about as low as a person can go without their body thinking they are starving so I will stick with it until it stops working.

So I guess going off of how I feel and the progress I am having I think I will stick to my plan for now... but if you see anything that is effecting me negatively please share!

Thanks so much for all the support!



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9/10/12 11:20 P

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Actually there is quite a bit of controversy about whole grains. Some food gurus put them in the processed food group because they can't be eaten as they come from the tree, ground, bush. etc. I'm all for the veggies, fruits, seeds, and nuts though.

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9/10/12 11:09 P

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I woild like to edit my earlier post:

Regardless of how much fat we consume or even what TYPE of fat we consume, the bottom
line is that a healthy diet should consist primarily of whole foods, especially vegetables, fruit, whole grains, nuts and seeds. I don't think there is anything particularly controversial about this concept.

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9/10/12 8:54 P

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I think I would have to kindly disagree with Kestes in the saturated fat area. When one is eating very low carb, then you need to have a lot of fat (60-70% or so) and saturated fats are fine - no trans fat though, that is NOT good. Avocados, meat, eggs, cheese, things like that are fine and are recommended..

I know it is about the opposite of what WW teaches and recommends, but it's a whole different way of eating. I for one did not have success on WW in later years - I did when I was young however.. And I know it works for a lot of people, but not for me.

Protein Power, Atkins books, Gary Taubes, and other books recommend eating more fats - that's what keeps the energy up, not the protein. Protein should probably be 20-25% of your daily allowance and carbs about 5-10% in a low carb way of eating...

I am well aware that everyone is different and different plans work for different people, I'm not trying to persuade anyone one way or another and I fully respect however and whatever anyone chooses to eat.




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9/10/12 8:14 P

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How long do you stick to this plan? Do you give up after a few days and binge on the weekends?
I also don't think you are eating enough calories, you are 5' 10' and are very active, yet you are only eating 1300 calories a day. I think you could eat at least 400 more calories a day.
You also could get more low starch veggies in your diet.
Also, watch your sodium intake.

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9/5/12 8:38 A

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Saturated fat has really not been proven to be unhealthy. Transfat should be avoided and it is in processed foods.

-American consumers have no problem with carcinogens, but they will not purchase any product, including floor wax, that has fat in it. - Dave Barry
-My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four; unless there are three other people. - Orson Welles
-The food here is terrible, and the portions are too small. - Woody Allen

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9/5/12 7:30 A

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Here are some suggestions based on your food journal: The first suggestion is to cut down on your fat intake. The human body is EXTREMELY efficient with fat and as a result, it only needs a tiny amount of fat to maintain healthy cells and organs. Your habit of having three eggs plus bacon is way too much saturated fat and is likely to backfire. I would suggest that you switch to healthy fats such as avocado and 1-2 tablespoons of heart healthy olive oil per day. Next, I would like to address the fact that you seem to be inconsistent in your measuring. As a result, you are likely underestimating your daily calorie intake. When you say that you had a "couple" of tablespoons of something, you really have no idea how many calories are in there, which can be problematic for foods such as cheese or mashed potatoes. My final piece of advice is to increase your intake of vegetables and fruit. Your journal indicated that you had "two" mushrooms on one day, but it is is not really necessary to count the quantity of your veggies at this point (though I realize some people have to be careful about fruit). A this point, there needs to be a DRASTIC increase in the mount of fiber you consume (which is generally NOT found in animal products). This will help to "move things alone" and thus increase your weight loss. I hope this helps and good luck!!!

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9/4/12 9:12 P

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Yep, Atkins spoke about dairy allergies causing stalls.

-American consumers have no problem with carcinogens, but they will not purchase any product, including floor wax, that has fat in it. - Dave Barry
-My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four; unless there are three other people. - Orson Welles
-The food here is terrible, and the portions are too small. - Woody Allen

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Morticia and Kierae are experts in low carb. They have given you excellent advice. I am not an expert, just a well read dieter who tends to follow low carb holistic eating.

A second for eating your veggies. I eat tons of low carb veggies. The carbs that I eat are very low on the glycemic scale. I'm at goal and feeling great. When losing weight there were times I plateaued. To break the plateau I bumped up the calories to about 2,000 - 2,400 for a few days and then went back to my diet. That did the trick. 1,300 or 800 calories a day does not seem to be enough for the amount of exercise you are doing. The body's metabolism can't get going if it does not have enough nutrition.

One other thought and that is I am wondering if you have allergies. Perhaps to milk products which is why you love them so much? Allergies can keep you from losing weight. You might want to try to rotate your food intake so that you do not eat the same thing within 3 days. Just a thought.

Good luck!! Carol

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Have you tried calorie cycling? First glance I would guess that you arent eating enough since your calories are fairly low in comparison to your exercise expenditure. If you have been doing the same routine with food and exercise, you may need to shake it up. I have seen folks back off on exercise, increase calories, shift their numbers (ie add more protein or fat or low gi veggies).

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Most of those studies making claims that people who eat more dairy/whole grains/cereal lose more weight, blah, blah, blah are bull crap. Funded by vested interests and use poor science while ignoring the scientific method. I'm a nurse and a science major. My son is a science teacher. The majority of them can be chucked into the waste can. There is a pseudo- scientific study arriving almost daily.

Cheese is not considered dairy on many diets. On many only milk and plain yogurt are on the dairy list. And most diets have rules for cheese. Since you mentioned trying to stay below 30gms of carbs a day I will refer to Atkins. It has to be a certain group of cheese - full fat cheese, no cheese products, imitations cheese, etc. Things like string cheese - no. The allowed cheeses have around a gm of carb per ounce. Atkins only allows 3-4 ounces a day but Atkins lists cheese and nuts as a reason plateaus occur. I love cheese too but I can't eat 3 or 4 servings a day and lose weight.

I didn't see any other reason for a stall other than the cheese. When Kierae is able to answer maybe she can see something else I have missed. It could be that can't lose on 1300 - 1500 calories a day too. My advice to you would be to eat more low glycemic veggies. Even Atkins recommends 3 cups a day.

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Just off the top of my head, is it possible you're not consuming enough calories for the level of activity you're doing? Could your body be holding onto everything you're eating because it doesn't think it's getting enough?

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You might want to watch your sodium. Some cheeses contain a lot of sodium, and some people retain water weight when consuming too much sodium. It doesn't affect everyone that way, but you can add sodium as a nutrient to your tracker to see if that's an issue for you. Hormones also can affect your weight. Where are you in your monthly cycle? If you're PMSing, you could be retaining water weight as well.

To see if it does affect you, cut back on it for a few days, then eat a high sodium meal. If your weight goes up the next day (sometimes 2-3 pounds) then you might want to cut back. Drinking extra water will help to flush it out.

The sodium RDA for healthy people is 2300 mg (about 1 teaspoon) per day, for those with health issues like high blood pressure, it's been lowered to 1500 mg per day.


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The cheese/dairy part confuses me. Don't most studies say that dairy actually improves weight loss in women particularly? Why does it tend to stall weight loss you think? The dairy has always been a sticking point for me. Because when I first had my baby and was breastfeeding I had to go off dairy for 3 straight months! Never done anything so hard. Anyway my weight did not budge at all not a fraction of a pound.

I am not arguing either way... I am just curious why dairy is an issue? It really helps me stay on my diet dairy is the only part of the high protein diet I really like I am not really a meat person I am a carb person haha obviously that is how I got fat! I am trying to learn to love protein I just find adding dairy makes it more enjoyable... but I certainly don't want it to stall me I am working way to hard to get stalled.

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My advice would to watch the cheese and keep it to one serving a day. You had a lot the first day. Cheese and nuts tend to stall a lot of people.

The heavy cream is okay in my opinion as long as you don't consume a ton of it.

I also think artificial sweeteners are okay as long as you don't go overboard. Some people will disagree with this as studies have shown that it causes an initial rise in blood sugar until the body realizes it is not actually sugar.

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Hello I am wanting a little advice/guidance/critique of what I am doing. I am trying to just go by a low carb diet and stick to the 30 carbs and under guide. I did this in February and March and lost 25 pounds pretty quick then sort of got lazy. I did not gain an ounce back but want to keep losing again. My goal is 30-50 pounds by Dec. 1 I have been doing this 2 weeks so far.

I am a fit 5'10" 260 pound 34 year old woman. I have been above 230 now for almost 7 years and had a baby a year and a half ago. I lost the extra baby weight but now I want to lose more before getting pregnant again. I want to make it all easier on my body this time. There is my background.

Here is a few days of my diet:
woke up 7am got up went to the gym did spinning class 45 min. and then eliptical trainer 135 HR for 45 min. (600 cal)
Drank 60oz of water

9am
3 eggs, 1 egg white, 2 slices bacon, 2 mushrooms, some leek and a couple TBLS of shredded cheese cooked in a bit of butter. And 1Tbls fish oil

12:30
1 scoop shake mix, 2 TBLS heavy cream, water
(Smart Smoothie protein shake (120 cal, 4 gram carb, 20 gram protein)

3 hungry
1 string cheese

4pm (1 hour) walk around neighborhood with baby and dog. (300 cal)

5:30
4oz steak, some grilled onions, 1TBLS blue cheese crumbles, 1 slice bacon with 1 cup of broccoli/cauliflower mash with some cheese and butter.

Calories about 1,300 exercise calories 900

I drank about 4 Liters of water today. Did not feel hungry at all and had good energy.



DAY 2
breakfast 8am
4 eggs, 5 little smokey sausages, some cheese and butter.

workout: Weight training pretty heavy weights 45min super high intensity workout. Did light treadmill walk for 20 min.
(600 cal)

12:30
leftover grilled chicken breast 4oz with a 1/2 cup of broccoli.

3pm
walk around neighborhood 1 hour (300 cal)

5:30
cooked chicken breast slices dipped in some ground almonds and unsweetened coconut shreds in coconut oil. So like mini mock breaded chicken. Ate 4oz of that with 1 TBLS greek yogurt and some splenda. Drank a 5oz coca cola zero

6:30
1 hour on exercise bike while watching tv heartrate about 135HR
200 cal

TOTAL 800 cal. Total calories for the day about 1,300




Day 3

8am am got up worked out eliptical trainer 45 min. kick boxing class at gym 1 hour
700 cal

10am
4 eggs, butter, cheese, 2 slices bacon

1 TBLS fish oil

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protein powder, 2 TBLS heavy cream, water/ice

3:30
string cheese

4pm walk around neighborhood 1 hour (300 cal)

6pm
4oz steak, onions, blue cheese, broccoli cauliflower mash up with cheese and butter.

desert 7 ... 4 blackberries in 2 TBLS heavy cream 1 pack splenda

TOTAL cal burned working out 1,000 diet for the day 1,500cal --- 4 liters water


Ok so there is an idea of what I am doing. I work out a lot but I feel good and watch my HR etc. I do that about 6 days a week and always have a day of rest sometimes 2. I drink a lot of water and do about 3 meals a day I find it helps me not to obsess over food. As you can see I try to stay mostly at 1,300 cal. but pump that up higher every now and then to try to trick my body into thinking I am eating more.

What I want to know is... is the heavy cream a bad thing even thought it does not have carbs? I use it to add a few more calories that are carb free to my diet and it helps me not feel deprived. Also do you all find that drinking fake sugar products impedes your loss? I need a crystal light or a diet coke on occasion I try to keep it to a minimum.

Anyway... I have seen inches lost about 2 around my waist that has not budged in months but the scale is not very active.

See anything I could be doing better????

Thanks for your help!

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