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5/31/13 10:17 A

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Ok thanks. :)

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5/31/13 10:07 A

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Okay, once you have that set though, you can go into Setting - Goals and you should see a box that says ".5 lbs / week" at the top and below that there is a button that says "Customize" that pops up a slider, where you can adjust how many calories you want to eat/burn, so just slide that up to 1500 (or whatever you want it to be) and it should adjust your target burn accordingly.

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5/31/13 9:55 A

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Then I have a glitched up account because I put in 1550 with light activity and I get for target calorie burn 1675 and target calorie consume 1425. . Why does it change.

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5/31/13 9:42 A

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Well, I don't want to muck up my own settings accidentally, but it looks to me like if you go into Settings - Goals and then click on "Lose Weight" on the bottom, it lets you manually enter the amount of calories you want to eat and then go from there. But you don't have to listen to BodyMedia or SparkPeople about how many calories to eat, you can COMPLETELY ignore their recommendations. This is simple math of calories in versus calories out. You want to lose half a pound a week. That means an average daily deficit of 250 calories. Look at how many calories you are burning. If it's about 1800 a day, then you need to be eating 1550 calories a day.

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5/31/13 9:30 A

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I am constantly trying to tweak the setting in Bodymedia. It's frustrating I must say. When I set up my profile for the first time it asked me all these questions about lifestyle, activity etc. When I mentioned sedentary but I gained 5 lbs in the past month it raised the number of calories for me to consume. I then had to keep going in and moving the slider down to what I need to eat without being doubled over in pain from eating. But still can't find that magic formula and when I call Bodymedia I get the answer that they only work the technical issue of the website and that they don't help with diet. Another issue I've had with them for over a year if you notice some of my other posts on here. I really only want to lose .5 lb a week. Yes it may take me 3 years to get to goal weight but when I do maintenance won't be as hard for me. Most doctors won't even help me with my issue because of my allergy to meds because they feel as if they're wasting their time. I don't even know how to find a good holistic practionor in my area. I'm wondering if maybe I should delete my BMF account and start it over again.

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5/31/13 9:10 A

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I've got 2 ideas about it plus realize that burning 3500 calories in a week doesn't automatically drop your weight by a lb. it's only an estimate -

1. Maybe your settings are wrong on your profile for calculations? Sometimes my fingers get twisted when typing, so you may want to check. I did a test profile of 175 lbs, 5' 1", 1 lb loss per week, goal of 130. Sparkpeople showed a target date of April 2014 and a calorie range of 1200 - 1550 which is what I would have expected. The 1200 is sedentary activity and the 1550 is extreme active. I also did a test profile on myfitnesspal.com using the same settings, but they let you specify activity and if I use sedentary then it's 1200 cal to eat and you need to burn 580 in activity. If I change the active level to highest then the calories changes to 14??.

Both of these are done with out the bodymedia attached, so they are both figuring in your estimated metabolic activity for you. So on bodymedia calories burned should run a wee bit higher than the 1200 + 580 = 1780.

I just hooked up my bodymedia in the last few weeks to both Sparkpeople and myfitnesspal - With both sites having access to my "Calories Burned", I've noticed that myfitness pal gives me extra food calories on days that I'm more active. I've got to dig around and see if I can lock it it on the calorie level I want since there are days that I'm a slug and eat, so I want my week to average out and more active days have to offset the slug days. Since I'm not tracking food on SP, I'm not sure, but it's possible that they are doing the same thing. Someone in the group probably has an answer.

I have friends/family that are 5' - 5'3" and they've had to keep it around the 1200 range with occasional splurges up to the 1500 to lose weight and it's been a slow weight loss.

You mentioned a lot of activities, but may be you need some time to build up to them as the Calorie Burn daily number you shared seems on the low side. Don't stop being active just try to increase it some and don't eat those exercise calories.

2. From the additional info you shared - I don't think I would ever force myself to eat at a certain calorie range if it was making me ill. Most sites don't recommend going below 1200/day for anyone, but because of my health issues my doctor monitors me at times with calorie ranges of 1000 - 1200. This is hard to do and allows no cushion for anything other than healthy food carefully prepared as I'm 5'7". It is also not a permanent setting. Again, it's under a doctor's care.

With your calorie burn daily of 1870 and then a conservative correction factor of 10% reduces that to - 1683. If you are eating 1800 calories/day, then 1870 - 1800 = 70, then it would take over 1.5 months to lose a pound. With the potential error adjustment, 1683 - 1800 = (117) - you would be targeting to gain about 1 lb/month.

With a calorie burn daily of 1870 and then a correction factor of 10% reduces that to - 1683. To lose 1 lb/wk would require approx 500 calorie deficit. Without changing your activity level that would have you consume 1683 - 500 = 1183 or 1870 - 500 = 1370.

The target settings on Bodymedia are with you being a lot more active than you currently are. These settings are also adjustable.

Always keep in mind it's a process and a lifestyle and we've got to find the sweet spot that we can live with. If we don't then we'll be miserable getting the weight off and not be able to maintain it going forward.

Hope some of this helps, because I know how frustrating it is to be trying to do it right but then gain weight.


Edited by: SEAMYST at: 5/31/2013 (09:13)
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5/31/13 8:16 A

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I guess I still don't understand. If BodyMedia is showing a daily burn of ~1800 calories, why on earth is it recommending you eat 2500 calories? It sounds to me like you have something configured incorrectly on the site. I would recommend calling customer service and having them walk through it with you to make sure everything is set up properly.

Also, you are incorrect about SparkPeople recommending 1846 calories "regardless of how much you work out". If you have your weekly calorie burn from cardio accurately reflected on your Fitness Goals page, it will adjust your target calorie range accordingly. If you are going significantly over your weekly calorie burn target, you should see a warning message at the bottom of your Fitness Tracker page toward the end of the week.

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5/31/13 1:19 A

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Maybe I didn't explsin clearly. Bodymedia eants me to consume 2500 calories a day and that is with 30 minutes light activity a day like walking. Sparkpeople wants me to eat no more than 1846 calories a day period regardless of how much I workout. If I ate as much as what Bodymedia wants me to I'f be in the hospital doubled over in pain from this acid reflux (GERD). Not to mention i still put on weight. I'm not a tall person. I'm only 5 foot and small boned. I'm barely able to eat the 1846 calories because of this sickness and am generally doubled over in excruiating pain at 1200 or 1300 calories. Sadly doctors can't do anything because I'm allergic to meds and can't take stuff like Prilosec or even Pepto Bismal. So do you find the calories that Bodymedia wants you to eat more accurate or what Sparkpeople wants you to eat?

I weigh all of my food on a scale. I don't eat processed foods. I eat lots of veggies, not so much fruit as I despise anything that's sweet and again sweet stuff triggers my GERD. I don't eat bread but eat wild rice. I get more protein but it's usually from plain fat free greek yogurt. I only drink water or herbal tea, unseeetened. No candy and again no nibbling as I'm too busy working and driving to be ninbling on a bite here and a bite there.

The calorie burn Bodymedia shows I actually do is 1870 a day. Sometimes it shows an unbelievable burn like 500 calorie burn in 15 minutes when I was just sitting there watching Netflix. I don't care who you are I find it hard to believe anyone can burn that many calories just sitting especially a 57 year old woman who has been inactive pretty much all but the past 2 years of her life. My thyroid however tested fine and my blood sugar levels are good. I watch my sodium because I have one issue of low blood pressure and another issue of severe bloat if I have more than 750 mg of sodium a day.

Edited by: MOONSTONEWOLF at: 5/31/2013 (01:36)
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5/30/13 9:46 P

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I agree with SEAMYST. Accurately tracking your food is critical. If you don't have a food scale, get one. Track your food by weight (grams or ounces) instead of servings. And don't just eye-ball things. Like we've both said, if you are accurately tracking your food and wearing your BodyMedia device the vast majority of the time (anytime you're not showering or in water) and your reports are showing a deficit then there must be some other underlying health-related issue.

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I can't judge the 1800 calorie level since I don't know your current weight, height, activity level, age, etc. but there are numerous calculators on the internet that you could use to test it from a different source and see how that compares.

What kind of numbers are you seeing on Bodymedia daily for "Calories Burned"? Do you know how to run the report to see an average for the past 3 weeks? Look at your average deficit on the report - if it's not much, then BodyMedia reports the device as accurate within 8% - 10% - if you reduce your "Calories Burned" by 10%, then how does that number compare to your average "Calories Consumed" If it's still a deficit, then look at how your doing your food...are you guessing at measurements or truly measuring it out? The book mindless eating will convince you to truly measure it out. It's amazing how our mind plays tricks on us. People most commonly under report what we eat and over report our exercise/exercise effort

If you eat it are you recording it? I mean even taste bites or little candies. It's possible to go through Sam's on a weekend eating the samples and consume well over 1,000 calories without realizing it.

If all of that's in line, then look at the composition of your food. For me and my thyroid if I eat a moderate carb diet then I gain weight even with calorie deficits. I've found that I need to switch out some of my starchy carbs for lean proteins. Sticking with lean protein and lots of non-starchy carbs lets me lose about 1 lb/wk. If my proteins starting getting fatter, then even if I'm within my calorie goals it will still stall my weight loss. I love carbs so I'm not no-carb .


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5/30/13 6:03 P

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My sleep is good. I get my 8 hours but then I have a regular meditation practice in the evenings. I've noticed BMF wants me to eat an ungodly amount and as one suffering GERD I have to be careful not to go over 1800 cal a day consumed. Just found out that the spark app has a barcode scanner. Shows how observant I am.

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5/30/13 5:54 P

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I hooked my body media to myfitnesspal.com for food tracking - I've found it much easier than Sparkpeople for food tracking.

When I first started using Bodymedia I was logging 500 - 700 calorie deficits daily and gaining weight. I took three months of my food logs in printed from myfitnesspall and my activity / sleep / calories burned from Bodymedia in to the doctor and told them something was wrong. I had been complaining but this gave me "proof". Turned out the usual blood tests showed my thyroid levels as "ok" but after some different testing I was actually low and my body doesn't convert T4 very well into the T3 that the body actually uses. We're still tweaking the dosages but once I got on the medicine I started losing 1 - 2 lbs a week and felt better than I had in 10 years. I cried when they agreed to put me on the medicine.

I've now stalled but am due back in to Dr. in the next 2 weeks and they will do more tests.

Also, check your sleep patterns if you have the Body media that tracks it with efficiency. I have difficulty losing weight and keeping my food calories in line when I'm getting less than 6 hrs. of good quality sleep per night. Inability to sleep can also be a thyroid symptom. It's one I continue to struggle with and usually get less than 5 hrs/night.

I always estimate food high and activity low if the activity is one that I have to manually add as in swimming.

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5/30/13 10:15 A

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What is your average daily deficit?

When I first set up my BodyMedia plan, I used the calorie goals I'd already been aiming for based on the SparkPeople recommendation. But honestly, I pretty much ignore my daily targets for burn and consumption on the BM site and just look at my deficit each day. I aim for a 1000 calorie deficit (7000 per week) so I can lose about 2 pounds per week.

If you are accurately tracking your nutrition either here or on the BM site and you are wearing your device 23 hours a day and you are showing an average deficit, there is no reason you should be GAINING weight. Can you give us more details about how much you are typically burning, how much you are typically eating, how long/often you wear your device, and any other factors you can think of (medication, health condition, etc.) that might skew your numbers?

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I don't seem to be losing weight, in fact I'm gaining. I think it's time I did something different. Seems that Bodymedia has me eating too many calories. Do you use the nutrition goals set by Spark People or on BMF? I'm 40 lbs heavier than when I started using the Bodymedia. Thanks.

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