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12/11/12 4:08 P

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Thanks for all the input!

Yes, bodybugg let's you isolate data, which is how I know that overall I'm burning more on Bodybugg than the Spark estimates, but am confused about how on Bodybugg I'm burnig so much LESS than on Spark estimates for actual exercise.

Thanks again ... I'll try to use some of your balancing ideas. :-)

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12/11/12 3:39 P

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Does bodybugg allow you to see exercise data? Like if you knew you worked out from 2-230 p.m., can you isolate the 2-2:30 p.m. calorie data from your armband? I know you can on the bodymedia activity manager or use the workout function on the bodymedia smartphone app.

If so, you could consider splitting the difference, do an average of the sparkpeople versus bodybugg if you find one too high but the other too low for what works well for you.

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12/11/12 3:34 P

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I wanted to add, even though I have not actually lost weight (actually gained weight over the past few years), I still love the idea of the gadget. Before I had one, my endocrinologist would ignore what I told him about my diet and exercise and various symptoms. He would tell me that my symptoms were all my imagination and for me to stop eating so much and start exercising ... whether he was ignoring me or just assuming I was lying, I don't know. Once I got my armband and brought him printouts of my activity levels, he started taking my complaints and symptoms seriously.

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12/11/12 3:30 P

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I have the bodymedia version, but my understanding is that they are mostly the same, just different marketing (made by same company). I haven't been using sparkpeople too much lately and generally use my polar heart rate monitor (hrm) when I did put in exercise. My hrm and bodymedia come out with similar numbers once its all averaged out. The bodymedia will read higher than my hrm for more arm intense activities while my hrm will read higher for more leg heavy where arms stay still (like riding a bike). As long as I am doing a balanced routine, it tends to average out by the end of the week, so I don't let it worry me. I would probably think of it differently if I did just biking alone.

Bodymedia number wise, I tend to bounce between 2000 and 2700 calories a day, depending on how much movement/exercise I get. 2000 is for a day where I have a deadline so I am glued to my laptop from sunrise til time to go to bed. I work from home editing papers, so I have to make a point of getting up and moving from time to time. 2700 is reasonable for me to get if I have an intentional workout session, or as I did Saturday and Sunday, spend a few hours doing yardwork. I have hit 3000-3200 a handful of times but they involved several hour hikes or being at DragonCon (scifi convention) where I was on my feet and walking around for several hours each day.

I have not been logging food for awhile. I got to a point where I was feeling obsessed with not getting anywhere no matter what I seemed to do (partly due to my thyroid, partly due to me hitting a workout slump). I spoke to a nutritionist and she advised me to stop logging food for awhile. Now that I am ready to go back to it, I am finding it hard to get back into the habit of logging everything. My goal is over Christmas (we will be doing various traveling for the next couple weeks) to get back into the habit of exercise, even if just going for a 30 min walk each day and then when we are home and back on schedule, add back in logging food.

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12/11/12 2:11 A

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Sorry for the delay (vacation week for kids, so I'm double duty), and thanks for the info. You ask Do you have a exercise burn rate put into sparkpeople? Yes, I do - that's what's so confusing to me. Spark gives me 2X as much burn rate in their calcultors, so I manually entered a calorie amount which is about 1/2 that and then Spark gives me the lower calorie intake range. On the other hand, while the Bodybugg does seem to give me far less of a burn rate for actual exercise, the overall burn for the entire 24-hour period is MUCH higher, so bodybugg recommends I eat 2000 calories and Spark recommends I eat 1700 calories maximum. None of it jives with me and I'm not sure how to interpret it all.

Also, RAINESSA - I just realized that we weigh about the same. Putting aside your thyroid issue, would you mind sharing some of your data from Spark vs. Bodybugg so I can get a feel for other examples?

Edited by: SPINNINGRACHEL at: 12/11/2012 (02:21)
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12/8/12 9:40 A

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There are a number of factors that can change things. You mention the calorie intake target of sparkpeople but not of bodybugg? And you mention the target burn rate for bodybugg but not sparkpeople. Do you have a exercise burn rate put into sparkpeople? If you don't specify one, it will assume you are just a couch potato and base your calorie intake according to that. It also assumes a stationary work style, which could end up with quite a difference if you are actually very active/physical at work. Both sparkpeople and bodybugg could be giving you a daily 500 calorie target deficit, just one expects you to burn more so gives a higher calorie intake as well.

For the sparkpeople exercise calculator, I have found to be extremely high for me. It often reports double of what my bodymedia device and various mid-level (I have used polar f7, ft80, and currently the ft60) heart rate monitors have given me. Sparkpeople can only give you a value based on your gender, age, and weight (maybe height counts into there too). While that is great if you have no other options, it does not take into account any medical factors, athletic ability, how used to the exercise your body is, how you felt that particular day, or how much oomph you put into the workout. We all have some days where we have more bounce in our step than others or days we are dragging. That can be a big factor in how a workout goes.

Another issue for me personally is that I am hypothyroid. All other things being equal, I still tend to burn less than the average person, so the basic calculators do not work well for me. Someone who was hyperthyroid would probably have the opposite problem.

That is a lot of babbling really just to say you will have to see what works best for you. But, assuming you have modest deficit or exercise targets, I would go with the more conservative exercise numbers.

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12/8/12 1:15 A

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Hi there. I just got the bodybugg from a friend and started using it about 1 week ago. When I entered my details it told me my goal is to burn 2600 calories a day. Since then, I've far exceeded that goal on most days. The thing is that on Spark my maximum calorie intake recommendation is 1700 calories even if I only want to lose 1 lb a week. Technically speaking if I'm averaging well over 2600 a day, then I should be losing 2 lbs a week if I eat only 1700 a day. On the other hand, I also find that the BodyBugg actually seems to UNDER estimate my calorie expenditure when I'm exercising. So for examploe, very high intensity aerobics still only gets me 500 calories/hr where Spark estimates almost 1000 calories/hr for the same exercises.

So I'm wondering how much I can rely on the BodyBugg vs. Spark. I know it's an experimetn and my overall plan is to play with the expenditures on the bugg vs. the menu recommendations n Spark to see if I can work out something good for me, but in the mean time ... Any ideas?

Going back where I came from...

DONE!
Done feeling fat...
Done thinking fat...
Done being fat...
Done WISHING I wasn't fat!
Done THINKING others THINK I'm fat!


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