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5/6/14 1:16 A

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I think with the sun being hot here I don't think it matters because of the heat in FL gets real hot

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5/5/14 10:58 P

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Clear plastic can sometimes work even better than black plastic, as it magnifies the sun's rays as well. Basically cooks any weeds that do manage to germinate.
If you are making raised beds, you can then cover the soil with layers of wet newspaper, before putting clippings, compost, etc on top (lasagne gardening). The newspapers will eventually break down, and roots from your plants will be able to work their way through them to soil beneath. But they also help smother any weeds from below that try to come up, as well as allowing excess moisture from the raised bed to drain.


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5/1/14 11:07 P

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I am going to have to try that black plastic and see how that does., I know in Florida the heat will kill it with something on it and it does not get the sun and the heat will bake it to death.

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4/28/14 4:26 P

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Thanks, I may just give it a try for a small plot with very deep soil where the beneficials could go lower.
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4/28/14 3:51 P

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Birgit, I think the beneficials adjust to the temps. Earthworms would likely enjoy the warmth and yet stay deep enough not to be harmed. My friend attests to the fact that it's a labor-saving way to claim a plot for gardening. Of course, she buries the plots in grass clippings and leaves in the fall to build the soil for the next season. As far as I know, she only uses the black plastic over a piece of ground that hasn't been gardened before.

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4/28/14 2:43 P

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I've been thinking about the black plastic approach. I can see how it would be great to kill the weeds and make the weed seed sprout. I'm just wondering how many worms and other beneficial critters will get killed as well, altough maybe they will crawl away from it?
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When my friend cultivates a new area, she lays a large piece of black plastic over it and weighs the edges down with rocks, bricks, boards (whatever she has) and lets it bake for a few weeks. The heat absorbed by the black plastic encourages germination of weed seeds and bakes them as they sprout. When they take up the plastic, the area is ready to turn over.

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4/15/14 12:34 A

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Vinegar works and as for roundup all that does is make the weeds stronger and harder to get out.

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The vinegar is a good weed killer, with a few applications I have killed poison ivy. Be careful about tilling with bind weed, tilling will break up the roots and a new weed can grow from each piece. Also tilling will bring up weed seeds that are in soil so they can sprout.

What I would do is spray with the vinegar, it works best on warm sunny days. Once the weeds are killed, I would sheet compost on top of the area, You might consider doing the composting in wide rows and cover the areas between the rows with landscape fabric and mulch to prevent weeds. A good layer of shredded leaves with some blood meal, bone meal and a little wood ash will add a lot of nutrients to the area. This would probably take until next spring to get the area ready to plant. I would then plant directly into the layer of composted material without tilling it in, to prevent any weed seeds from sprouting.

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4/13/14 9:13 A

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Thanks for the suggestions but never mind... I figured out what I'm going to do and I am EXCITED. Keep your eyes open on the message boards- I'm going to post it separately...

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4/13/14 12:11 A

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If you need another alternative for roundup try vinegar concentrate (20% acidity) for some of the noxious weeds. You can buy online by the gallon.
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4/12/14 11:48 P

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When hubby and I got married the soil was basically dead. He sprayed roundup everywhere for years. I know it's not organic anymore, but it's all I have. We put in raised beds. In other areas I added lots of compost and Sunshine mix number 4. The sunshine mix transforms the worst soils. We have red clay and rocks. My holly hocks are now 4 feet tall and its only April. I am amazed at what adding it has done. The vegetable beds were mostly unproductive as they were filled with crappy soil. After amending it with the mix we get the best produce. We also use Miquos a good bacteria for starter plants. It helps plants to absorb nutrients better. I added rock dust, kelp meal, all natural stuff. You get the stuff at hydroponics stores. They sell better quality soil amendments than garden centers.

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4/12/14 7:20 P

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Chickens are on the list of things to do AFTER the garden is set... (I know, it makes more sense to get them before but with vacations and finishing school we have to put them off a bit longer). Goats aren't on the list at all... yet... I'm thinking major roto-tilling effort but the weeds! The perennial extensively rooted weeds! I'm dreading the thought!

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Get a goat or two, they love to eat the weeds, no weed killer needed for most of them. The manure will help make the land more fertile. If you don't want bigger animals at least get some chickens.
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We've got 1/3 of an acre - most of which is wild grassland and noxious weeds. We've gardened successfully with raised beds in some areas but I'm looking to cultivate an area that is over-ridden with thistle, bindweed and native grasses, with my lower maintenance crops (winter squash, potatoes and onions primarily). I do not particularly want to do more raised beds but rather edge this area and dig in. I'm not sure really how to accomplish this, however. What to do about the weeds so that they don't just move into my garden? I know I'll need to amend the soil, but at what ratio?

Has anyone started something like this in this situation???

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