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Haven't tried Costoluto Genovese - I wonder if it would do well in my cooler shorter growing season.

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We are lucky to have a lot of plant farms around us which grow their own plants from saved seeds so mostly I get to buy my plants already started. Beyond that, I like Park's heirloom collections and the afore-mentioned Seed Savers. Some really good producers in my part of the world are Cherokee Purple and Black Krim. Most of the Russian seeds don't stand up well to our heat. In fact, most heirlooms don't which makes it hard not to be tempted by the GMOs. The Italian indeterminates like Costoluto Genovese are favorites for canning and taste really rich.

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My favorite heirloom red tomato is Box Car Willie. Great flavor, nice size, works well for slicing, canning, and eating fresh.
For the pink-purple kind (lower in acid) we have to grow Mortgage Lifter. Very large, very flavorful. Also known as Radiator Charlie.
I like Dixie Gold Giant and Kentucky Beefsteak for the yellow-orange ones. Again, low acid, but full of flavor and not bland like some yellow tomatoes can be. Large too.
Black from Tula is a dark one, full acid so fine for canning, but it does split easily and it doesn't last long once ripe.
White Potato leaf is a great tasting Ivory colored tomato, but the skins are tender and it bruises easily.
Aunt Ruby German Green tastes great (you pick it when you see a hint of yellow on the top) and is very large, and Green Zebra is a great tasting smaller green tomato. Some people can't get past the green color, but if you have your eyes closed, you probably couldn't tell the difference.

I definitely would grow eggplant. Don't let it get as big as the ones you see in the store. You won't believe the difference in flavor! Much better than store bought. And even potatoes that you grow at home are denser, sweeter, and better tasting than you buy in the store too, if you have room for them.

We like to grow colored bell peppers and there are some good heirloom varieties but I can't think of what we grow offhand.

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I generally like and *try* to grow tomatoes, peppers, beans and squash varieties. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't :)

Am also open to trying other veggies, those are just the ones we have the most seeds of.

I am also going to attempt eggplant this year for the thrill of it. We can buy eggplant pretty cheaply in the summer...



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I agree. I also use Totally Tomatoes to order my heirloom tomato seeds, though they have more than just tomatoes. I've tried lots of different varieties and have some that are Must Grow every year, and others that I do like but may not grow every year as I've got limited room and want to try some new ones as well.

What kinds of vegetables do you like to grow so we can let you know some of our favorites?

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Heirlooms:

Vermont Bean Seed
Tomato Growers Supply
Seed Savers Exchange
Southern Exposure
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is there a particular vegetable you're looking for?

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What about recommendations for heirloom seeds? I may dabble next year and was curious if anyone had a preference, I'm in the Mid Atlantic region - Jersey Strong :)



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4/4/15 10:22 P

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Burpee's - my favorite (which has an organic seeds section)
Henry Fields
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I like Seed Savers and, I got seed from High Mowing organic seeds

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Seconding the distaste for a "useless lawn."

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I ordered from Fedco this year, no specific reason other than it was the only catalog I received, glad to see they are not a Monsanto seller. Last year I planted all from saved seeds and the garden did pretty well until late summer. I didn't set up my hose outside and the drought we had in late summer killed almost everything.

I have better plans for this year and am adding a lot of flowers where I have useless lawn space.

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I've ordered from www.highmowingseeds.com/ . They offer many different and unusual seeds.

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Oh, too bad about Blue Lake beans - those produce well for me. Maybe I'll just save seeds from the ones I've grown in the past.

I'm partial to Tomato Growers Supply. Many of their varieties are heirlooms. I never buy hybrid tomatoes because I like to be able to save seed from year to year, but I guess there's no guarantee that an open-pollinated variety is GMO free unless it's specifically labeled that way. Sigh.

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This year I plan on ordering my tomato seeds again from "Totally Tomatoes". They have well over 100 varieties of heirloom tomatoes, plus cherry ones (the cherry tomatoes are all together, hybrids and heirlooms, so it makes it harder to count). These come from all over the world, some suitable for hot summers, some for cool summers and shorter growing seasons. They also have lots of varieties of peppers and some other vegetables as well. Unlike the tomatoes, the other vegetables are all together, so harder to know which ones are heirloom (some are labeled hybrid, but not sure if that means the ones NOT saying hybrid are then heirloom?).
www.totallytomato.com

I get plenty of other seed catalogs, but I've noticed that though some of the seeds are labeled Hybrid, the others don't say. But they also don't say that the non-labeled ones ARE heirloom either, nor do they say whether they are non-GMO or not. I'd rather order seeds that I KNOW are heirloom varieties, which would also mean they are non-GMO. Any good recommendations for catalogs that DO offer definite heirloom/non-GMO seeds?

What catalogs are you ordering from this year?

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Thanks for the link.I didn't realize Monsanto "owns" Early girl and Marketmore 76, nor that Burpee sells some Monsanto seed. I buy from a variety of seed companies: Uprising Seed, Bountiful Gardens, Horizon Herbs, Nichols , but I do some impulse seed shopping from time to time as well, and I have a couple Burpee and Ed Hume seed packets. I'll know to check things out more carefully next season.

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Thank you for the link to the article. I agree that we need to avoid supporting Monsanto. It's a shame that they now own the copyright to some of the names of heirloom varieties that I've grown before (marketmore76 cucumber, charleston gray watermelon, Celebrity tomato, Black Beauty eggplant, Blue Lake green beans among them). Will definitely do my best to avoid buying from any companies they have a stake in or any seeds that belong to them either.

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Buying organic seeds without supporting Monsanto (they're in the "organic" and "heirloom" market now).

www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/the-
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Gonna significantly expand my shell beans planting this year. i'm hoping for more foods that will last me into the winter than just sundried tomatoes and hard squash.

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The catalogs are great, but I've been able to find what I need locally the last few years. It saves me time and shipping costs, especially for a small garden.

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I love the Seeds of Change site. Each year I like to try something new in our garden Hubby always growls when I start talking garden as he has to plow and help me plant, but he loves to harvest and eat

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I'm so tired of the snow and cold...I bought some supplies already...My son is always talking about heirloom seeds, so, after last years disaster, I thought i'd give it a try this year...
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Seeds of Change packedt from Lowes
I ordered from Seed Savers Exchange and Patriot Supply
Here's a site I found on Pintrest...a list of seed companies that are non gmo, organic

Off Grid Info - Food Independence - Where To Get Heirloom Seeds - Non-GMO Seeds - Organic Seeds



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A couple more I'd add, and I too have a preference for heirloom varieties...

Tomato Growers Supply
Seed Savers Exchange
Southern Exposure Seed Exchange
Vermont Bean Seed

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Good info everyone & will use it. emoticon Thanks!

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Timely conversation--thanks everyone for the input!

Heirloom varieties would definitely be NON-gmo. It's time to get ready to start some seeds.

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Regarding GMO - except for corn and maybe zucchini and yellow squash (which I didn't realize was on the list), you probably wouldn't plant GMO crops like wheat or soy etc..
Here's a link for what GMO actually is and the crops affected:

www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/wha
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As to non-GMO seeds, I assume (hopefully not incorrectly) that heirloom seeds are GMO. After all, they are not hybrids of any kind but are varieties that have been around for a long time, long before GMO was possible. In my mind, GMO seeds can't be considered heirloom varieties. I'm hoping the seed companies think the same way.
And personally, I believe they taste better. They may not be as disease resistant as hybrids, or have as smooth a skin or uniform size (especially regarding tomatoes), but you can't beat the flavor and you are able to save the seeds from year to year as well instead of having to always buy them.


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@ Birgit - If you send me a PM with your e-mail we will send you a materials list and directions to build a mini-green house. DH is in construction and is willing to advise you. No charge. emoticon It would take too much space here to list everything out.

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I order from the ones already mentioned but I also like Territorial Seed Company because they have such excellent info for each family of vegetables such as:
"culture, preparing and maintaining the bed if it's something like asparagus, insects, pests, diseases and harvest." They also have a good selection of organic seed and heirlooms and I always had a good germination rate with their seed. I mainly like them because they are one of the few companies who carry my one of my favorite tomatoes Ananas Noire .


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Baker Creek Heirloom Seed Co - www.rareseeds.com/
Great catalog, lots of varieties, great pictures and recipes.

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Not far from Pullman.
My hope is to eventually put up a mini-greenhouse. I tried once with too thin PVC pipe and then realized it needed to be much stronger. What materials are you planning on using?
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Thanks Birgit. Where in Eastern WA do you live to have frost in July or August? Up around Spokane? I live in Bremerton, on the Peninsula directly across from Seattle via the Puget Sound. We still have frost sometimes into early June and then it starts again in early September. With a whole lot of luck, starting out seeds in the house and transplanting them, we can grow tomatoes and bell peppers. DH is planning a mini greenhouse, 8x16, for us in the backyard that has lots of sun exposure. I am hoping...

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Ruth,
you are still better off than we are in Eastern WA where we have a frost in July or August about every 5 years, LOL.
I think you should be ok for planting frosthardy things like kale, radishes, lettuce, arugala etc. as early as early March.
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Thanks for the Seeds of Change link. I just checked it out and they specify being non-GMO and certified organic. I just hope they have seeds that are for areas with a short growing season. Some years we still have frost in late May/early June. It is nice and green here in western WA but it stinks for having veggie gardens without a greenhouse.

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One for Asian seeds! emoticon

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For Asian seeds: www.kitazawaseed.com

For organic seeds: www.seedsofchange.com and www.seedsavers.org



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As a rule of thumb, if you go organic, it is non-GMO.

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I am wondering which companies are non-GMO. Does anyone know?

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keeping this tab open to write down the list. Can't wait to get started. Going to clean my backyard today and get it ready. California weather has no rain in sight so not sure how this year is going to play out.

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Great topic, I'm hoping to learn a lot.
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I thought it would be good to share which seed catalogs we like to order from, and/or which ones we get.
One I order from all the time is "Totally Tomatoes". They have hundreds of heirloom varieties of tomatoes, from all over the globe and ones that are suited to cool weather climates as well as ones that will do well in extreme hot weather. They also have lots of pepper varieties, more than any other catalog I've gotten, as well as now introducing some other veggies - though not too many.
I also get the "Vermont Bean Seed Company" catalog, which I believe is from the same company, but deals with other vegetables than tomatoes and peppers. I have not ordered from them before, but will be considering it this year.
"Henry Fields" is another catalog that I've used in the past and have always been pleased with them.

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