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Thanks Gardenstar. I don't remember if I actually asked for chard info on the team, But I know I asked the question here at the house. I've decided that instead of stressing of what to harvest when, or what to do with it when I have harvested it, I'm just going to jump in and try it and see if I like it. I'm amazed at how much I don't know.

To day I pulled up a garlic. The base was bulbing, but no cloves. So I wondered about using it like a scallion, when I wanted a strong tasting addition to a dish. Well, it was very tough, So I decided using it raw was out of the question. I think I'll try chopping and steaming it tomorrow.

I had something growing in a box when I got back from NC that looked like it was in the cabbage family, but the leaf wasn't like cabbage or broccoli or cauliflower. Don't think it is turnip, collards or mustard. It's growing tall and compact. Well, this week small flowers were appearing at each leaf. I'm dedeucing it's brussels sprouts. If that's the case, I'll know next year to transpalnt to 1 per square. The seeds must have been in one of those mixed greens packets.

What about Elephant Garlic? I have one green thing sticking up above the ground 3/4 of and inch. The regular garlic and shallots I planted at the same time in september is up over a foot. Every single one of them. I planted 3-4 elephant garlic cloves.

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a note on Swiss Chard, which some one didn't know what to do with. It can be used like spinach, steamed, sauteed in garlic in olive oil, even used raw in salads.

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My husband recently planted the garlic. There still is plenty of rapini and turnip greens, some beets and carrots that I hope will reach a respectable size. All of the kale seed I planted seemed to be dead, and I just bought it at the local garden store! I was not happy. Right now the frosts and freezes are happening, so the plastic covering has been on the rapini for days. We are seriously considering hoop houses, even in zone 8b things can be unpredictable and there are freezes.

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I've watched several, I think. I especially liked the way you started seeds in toweling. I did mine in napkins. Just the right size for a square. So I put the seeds at the right spacing, followed your directions, but did not cut apart. I simply flattened out the napkin in the square and covered with Mel's Mix. Worked great!!

It was hard to see the clamps in the videos since you weren't really focusing on them but I think they are snap clamps. Do you like them as much as I do?

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Not sure if you saw my fall garden videos but i am using snap clamps i think.

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Don't have a You Tube channel. But when I have the true framework up, I'll take pics or put up a video on a blog. I planned on using snap clamps to hold plastic to framework, but they appear to have been donated when I thought I wouldn't live to plant another garden. I'm ordering some more. Snap Clamps are a great invention!!

They hold plastic and shade cloth on PVC pipe frames.
www.snapclamp.com/ You can make your own clamps out of PVC pipe, but they don't have the ridges inside which help to grip tightly.





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This lady shows making the hoop frames and sticking them in the ground. She never shows how to attach her plastic. I cut smaller pieces of bigger diameter PVC and pound them into each corner of the square. When I'm ready to cover, in goes 1/2 inch PVC criss cross. Lay the plastic over top and shap clamp it down at ground level. 2 pieces of 10 foot pvc and 4 2 inch snap clamps are all I need. Looks like they are selling 4 inch snap clamps now. It cuts easier than pvc pipe. I used to get it in 30 inch lengths and cut whatever length I needed.

Hope this helps.

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BRAVELUTE sounds Awesome! Glad to see you growing so much veggies in your zone. I would love to see how you protect your plants - do you have a youtube channel? Adding the UV plastic has done wonders to my fall garden. Our night temps can get in to the Low 40's or mid 30's. I have some fun gardening experiments i am looking forward to showing you all. Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving!

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From a zone 6A gardener, I'm jealous of all the veggies you have going this tme of year. I have had to start buying most of mine.

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Things are happening in my fall garden!! Not 1 but 3 acorn squash, all still around 1 inch.
No zucchini.
2 tomato plants toed in and not one foot tall.
several 1 inch cucumbers
Good supply of s kinds of peas
A few green beans
Lots of lettuces: oakleaf, red salad bowl (beautiful) red leaf lettuce. green and red oakleaf lettuce, romaine
Something in brassica family has flowers on top. I'm hoping those are brussels sprouts.
4 cabbage plants that have each begun to make tight heads
Swiss chard has lots of leaves. Must find out what to do with it.
Quinoa, just experimenting. Supposed to be a hot weather plant. It's growing well and I'm using the red leaves in salads.
beets seem slow to leaf out but still growing.
4 varieties of garlic and shallots doing well.
Elephant garlic: still nothing above ground.
Collards and Mustard greens are phenomenal. Can I pick leaves now, or do I have to wait until ready to harvest the whole head?

Carrots show signs of taking off now.
Pumpkins were a bust. Must start them earlier next year. Think I'll try winter sowing them in January and just see what happens. Perhaps in a big grow bag. They didn't do well in yard at all. I didn't plant them in a raised bed.

I transplanted the last of the mixed lettuce seeds I started when in NC in October. I created lots of containers of greens to bring into the house if needed. Otherwise they are on the patio table. I move that as the sun moves.

Cold weather is coming Sunday morning. I'm getting the Plastic and hoop frames ready.

My Mom and sister gave me a dump cart and 2 more raised bed kits for an early Christmas. They didn't want to have to take them to NC for Christmas. I'm glad I don't have to bring them back down here. AND I get to use them now. Means more ingredients for Mel's mix. I hope the organic store still thinks people are growing.

I'm going there Tuesday. I wonder what they have in the huge grow bag now. The sunflowers were done the last time I was there.

Can I tell you this garden is like an adventure for me?

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The link in the previous post should be

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Hey Everyone! Just thought I'd share how the Fall/Winter Garden is doing this year. Any of you have a Youtube channel?

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Sue,
Generally Alliums, onions,various types of garlic, & shllots. are harvested when the leaves turn brown and fall over.

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Waterfelon, garlic is a first for me. Actually just about everything is a first in my fall garden.

So 4 types of garlic are up and tall and appear to be doing very well. As are the shallots. I can't wait to get to cook with them all. Do I leave them growing all winter and harvest next summer? Or might they finish earlier here in Florida?


But my grow bags with the elephant garlic have not broken the surface. I finally dug around and found a bulb and it looked like it did the day I planted it.

Are they slow to "sprout" or should I be contacting my provider. It's been 2 months.

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Don't think I could handle twins. But I am surprised at how hairy the little thing is compared to how smooth and hard-skinned the adults get.

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congratulations! It's adorable. Hope you enjoy it. Too bad you didn't get twins.
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I just wanted to be sure you didn't miss my announcement that I have given birth to a one ounce baby acorn squash in my fall garden. It will probably be my one and only, and I'll be surprised if it grows to be 16 ounces. A picture is available on the background of my spark page, if you want to ooh and aah!

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I am also sold on growing my own garlic. It is SO easy to grow and takes up very little space. I grew a German red garlic last fall as well as several cloves of elephant garlic. Very easy and fun. You can even easily grow lots of garlic in pots.

Also, really easy to perpetuate-I took 2 bulbs of each variety and broke those up to plant this fall, so out of 1 bulb started with 1 clove a year ago, next year I expect to increase my garlic harvest by about 5 fold!

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Karen,
There are dozens of types of garlic available from on line nurseries. Take a look and read the descriptions and decide which one/ones you would like to try. It may be to late to get them for fall planting but you can also plant garlic in the early spring.

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Fall Garden Update #2 - Feel Free to Rate, Comment & Subscribe :)

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Thanks for the tip on the garlic. I've never tried it.

My Swiss Chard wintered well in Kansas. Three of my four plants survived last winter.

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Last year was the first time I planted garlic. I will do it every year from now on! It is SSSSOOOOOOO much better than the store bought garlic.
I got a tip from another Master Gardener before I planted it. She told me to pierce the root end of each clove with a small pin or needle just before planting. Said this helped them root more quickly. I did this on about half of the cloves and it seems the ones I pierce grew better. So I plan on doing that to all of them this year.

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My chard and kale has been great lately I am going to miss them... I still have brussel sprouts not ready and I am thinking about whether to plant garlic ... what do you think about planting garlic I haven't done it before and it is a first year garden in a new spot.

gardening in November in Canada near Lake Ontario

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Since they have been light frosts, the lettuce and chard will keep going. I need to finish up the cold frame and get things planted in there so I can have some stuff over the winter.

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So will they keep growing for you now after the frost so you can have salads?

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A couple of frosts has wiped out everything but the lettuces and the swiss chard in my garden.

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I worked hard to get the 4 square foot method boxes built, filled, and planted before I left for NC Sept. 30. My mom came over every day it didn't rain and watered for me. I took a picture of each box and I'm going to try to upload into the gallery.

Box 1 was first with transplants and box 4 was last, planted with salad green seeds the last week in September.

I'm concerned the cold weather coming down from Hurricane Sandy might affect my future salads because I'm not quite prepared to protect from frost yet. Right now, we are only expecting 40 degree weather tomorrow morning.



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Zone 5 here. Put in my garlic and planted some allium bulbs last night.

Mostly I'm clearing out the dead stuff getting ready for winter. Come on compost!

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I'm still waiting for it to be consistently cool enough to plant peas and lettuce without it bolting before I can pick it. 97 today, too warm.

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I have sweet potatoes, tomatoes, salad greens, turnips, beets and a few carrots going. They are all looking pretty good. I am still harvesting onions and basil from Spring.

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Hi Terrij7! Yes i grow everything in containers. The Macro Plastic bins i converted to raised beds this year was the first time using them (i picked them up from a Garage sale last year for $5 a piece). But i have been using the home made 18 gal self watering containers for roughly 7 years now. Our backyard soil is all very rocky and there is maybe 6 inches of depth to the dirt so i can't really grow anything there unless i build raised beds. I like having the grass so i can use it as compost or mulch.

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Nice video SUMITH2008! Do you plant everything in containers?

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I had to cover everything on Sunday. We were to have a killer frost.It did get very cold- mid 30's but it was not a killer frost. I have portable tents that protect my crops. The tents helped keep the stink bugs from destroying my crops this year. I have a winter blanket that goes over the tent to protect the plants from the cold. emoticon
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Fall Garden Update. It's coming along slowly

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emoticon My fall crops are growing nicely. emoticon



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My fall crops are doing well...especially the kale.

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I have been enjoying BIG salads from what I planted a few weeks ago.

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I've got collard greens, kale and swiss chard for winter greens

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I'm getting some second bloom tomatoes on the short day bloomers (the ones that were not killed by the high winds). I planted my broccoli in the pots with the tomatoes. The broccoli is starting to head up now.

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I planted some fall crops about 3 weeks or so ago. I put spinach right in the ground and it's about an inch tall now. I have broccoli and cauliflower sprouts that I started in the greenhouse a few weeks ago. They're on the back patio now hardening off and I'll plant them in the garden as soon as I finish pulling all the carrots out! But they're about 6" tall now and hopefully will not be eaten by the cabbage loopers in the fall like they were in the spring!

I'm not a lettuce eater, so it's spinach for me and they're very good fall crops. I hope to have fresh spinach at least until the end of November even once we get some frost.

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My fall crops are doing very well. My lettuce looks very nice. emoticon

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SuSmith, what is your zone? I'm in Florida, and it is still getting warm with high 80-lo 90.
I started everything in the raised beds for my fall garden. I was surprised that the carrots, beets, and peas came up so fast. I just planted the last box with many varieties of lettuce last week. Might have been too early but I'm going away for 3 weeks. I might have to replant them when I get back.

I like your paper towel method. I tried flour glue and put the very small seeds for plants that needed 9 or 16 to the square on napkins that were very close to 12 inch square. I didn't cut them apart. Just put the whole napkin in the square and covered lightly.
The mix doesn't stay in place and I worry things dry out too much. So, I think your method of cutting the squares of paper will be what I try next.

I don't think I'll need 72 unless I start a 5 and 6th bed for my spring garden.

Will you have to protect from cold temperatures as winter comes. I guess what I really want to know is when is your first frost, if you expect to have one?

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Awesome job, thanks for sharing. I may try this method. I also like the fact that you set up drip irrigation. Does each plant get their own water supply? I've never used drip lines before.
This motivates me to finally get my seeds in the ground while it's still warm enough. emoticon
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I started a mini fall Garden this year. My plants are still fairly small. Our latest challenge is these super hot temps. This whole week is going to get back in to the 100's. I have a youtube channel just to keep track of what i do yearly so its easier to see what i did wrong or right the previous year. If you have a youtube channel feel free to subscribe and I will do the same.

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LOL! It's like a little lettuce or green - it's also called corn salad or lamb's lettuce and very cold tolreant






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Gabby, thanks! You gave me my web search for the day. I have no idea what mache is, except for papier mache, though I don't think you'd plant it.

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Eliot Coleman has excellent books and articles about extending the growing season. He lives in New England and grows things thru winter which is why their farm is called "Four Season Farm" LOL.I live in W#estern NY and missed the last start date for Kale, turnips etc but I did start beets. lettuce and radishes. I'm going to utilize a small cold frame that I have and add some good soil to it and plant some carrots, beets, kale and mache in there and see if I can harvest in November.

Here's an article from him on hoops:
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I hope I gave you the right links. One was to a video, and one was to an interactive software program online that helps you plan your fall garden??

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Thanks for the link. It was an interesting read.

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I live in FL. I have been starting things in my fall garden since August. Lettuces are the last to go in since they really don't like anything about the heat. I hope to get the last 4x4 bed mixed, filled, and planted before I leave for NC Friday. That will be the salad green box, with a sturdy rabbit fence around it.

I have already planted tomato, spinach, turnips, carrots, beets, beans, peas, zucchini, acorn squash, garlic, shallots, onions, leeks, strawberries, chocolate pepper, stevia, and two tomato varieties.

I have hoop frames ready to support plastic protective covers if we get a frost in November. Last year, we had one frost around Thanksgiving, then a return to summer weather until mid-January.

But even with the frost the majority of what I've planted will be happy without any protection. I'm pushing it with the stevia, peppers and tomatoes. I will get at least small zucchini like you'd pan fry with the flowers??

I've also planted 3 pumpkin seeds with a thought toward having something to grace my Thanksgiving table. It's a small table.

I'd recommend anyone wanting to grow all year to check out the Square Foot Gardening Book by Mel Bartholomew, or any of the many videos on You Tube.

And I watched someone video a tour at a facility that grows organically in the snow, with vermiculture, tilapia, many kinds of plants, and he shows how its done, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin .
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRnulbOqo0k

Here's an online fall garden planter. You input your frost date and you get info on things to plant.
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I will be planting various lettuces and greens. I am also thinking maybe some beets and winter squashes.



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In my area, the first frost date is usually mid October I have planted letuce, spinach and radishes. Since the ground is still warm, the seeds sprout very quickly and I started harvesting lettuce about 3 weeks after planting. If you cut lettuce 1-2 inches above groun levl it keeps produce until a hard frost in the fall. I'm trying to get a cold frame built before winter, so I can plant in it. With a couple of light bulbs, moving blankets and a tarp, I should be able to harest lettuce and spinach most of the winter.

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Thanks! That looks like exactly what I needed. Now I'll just have to find family members to volunteer labor. emoticon emoticon

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I thought you might like this, about fall gardening and extending the growing period:

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I've never planted a fall garden since I've usually been glad when I was done for the year. But organic food is expensive to buy. We just pulled all our tomato plants and only a few things survived the two night frosts we had. But the days are still in the 70's, so I thought I might try to seed some kale and other frosthardy greens like mustard greens that I can cover with a small hoophouse.
Does anyone else plant a fall garden? What do you like to plant?

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