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I will, thanks!

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There are several companies that specialize in organic seeds and in heritage varieties of seeds if you do a search for either one you should come up with several choics.

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SHARJOPAUL thanks for the info. I'm trying to find a company that isn't linked to them. It's my understanding that they have taken over quite a few seed companies.


I've been using paper pots and have had good luck with them. I try to get the pages that don't have any color on them. My granddaughter loves to help me make them.

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Thanks for the link SK

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We start all of our seeds in newspaper pots.

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2/12/12 8:26 P

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There is a way to fold newspaper pots, origami-style. Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms7hUdbl8Ds
. I used a minuscule piece of masking tape for each pot.

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Monsanto of Round-Up fame, is also reported to be heavy into genetic engineering of seeds. A few years ago that came out with what they called an organic round-up. With all the negative press they have received, I do NOT trust them.

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This maybe should be a new thread. I was looking at an organic gardening site and came across this company called Monsanto. From what I've read it's not a very nice company. Has anyone else heard about it?

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I planted lettuce seeds in a potting soil bag in my greenhouse/hoop house and it is coming up. Fresh greens, yes! All you do (I learned this from Mother Earth News, of course) lay a bag of potting soil flat. Cut out a rectangle on the top leaving 2" all around so the soil doesn't flop out. Automatic garden bed! It works GREAT! No tilling involved either! I will keep you posted.

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I'm getting fired up for the new garden season - only a few months away!!! After looking into some companion planting I sat down and planned out my plots. Hopefully this will help each species thrive!! emoticon

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Have any of you tried the Mother Earth News Garden planner? I just digned up for the 30 day free trial, I can see the value in it already. I love how you can swap around the rows to lay out the perfect garden.

I not onlty get the seed catalogs, I sign up for emails with some of the big ones. The other day in an email from Burpee they advertised a wooden form fo $20 that would form regular newspaper into seed starting pods. I was wondering if anyone has seen or tried this before.

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Wow, some of you already planting indoors....that's one think I don't like about not being in the same state my garden will be in during the winter. We won't get back there until late March or early April...pretty late to be starting seeds at that point. I may have to rely strictly on plants...I don't like that part.....

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When I pull back the shredded leaf mulch, I can pick some spinach.

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Somehow the exercise gained in the garden is fun and it pays results. It is snowing out and I'm still picking kale from the garden. How many people can do that?

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You are a lively and happy group. How nice. Must be those organic veggies and all that exerscise you get from growing them..

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My parsley always does better in the fall. I had white spots one year when little bugs were around.

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I had the worst luck with my parsley last year. It had was dull and had white spots on the leaves and was very bitter. Was it too hot and dry????? In the fall when it cooled off it looked gorgeous!

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Garden star I'm not so sure your parsley plan will work unless you went to seed and expect that to germinate. Parsley is a biennial and goes to seed the second year instead of spreading. I thought I'd collect the seed from mine but they are unsightly and took way too long to flower and set the teeny seeds. I ripped them out. It is just easier to plant new each year. I keep last years around for a bit and use the greens that they send up until my new sprouts get a good start.

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I planted lettuce and beets last week....and have yet to see them germinate. I am a little concerned because I bought Ferry Morse seeds out of desperation. I am planning to start tomatoes (maybe square foot garden method), peppers and eggplants indoors in a few weeks. Outdoors, I will need to get more compost somehow for arugula, carrots, swiss chard, more lettuce, collards, rapini, mustard, radishes, spinach and maybe hakuri turnips if I feel like splurging on the seed real soon. In a few months, hopefully will have enough mature compost for squash, beans, okra (maybe), cantaloupe, watermelon and amaranth. I am also starting some herbs indoors, the garlic is already there (that fish fertilizer and baking soda presoak someone on this board suggested worked very well!), and there is some parsley out there which I think I can just leave there and let spread, like a planting from previous years that dh gave away. oops, almost forgot the beneficial flower mix I keep talking about, and a few potatoes that are sprouting, a few sweet potatoes. As usual, I am probably overly ambitious.

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I'm saving for a greenhouse now, hope to have it some time in March. I am going to start my cold weather seeds in just a couple of weeks-broccoli, cauliflower, spinach-indoors, probably on my dining room table like I always do! My garlic is already poking its head up and a few of my sugar peas that had dropped to the ground last fall are trying to come up. They are little sprouts now, so I'm going to leave them and see how they do. Once I get the greenhouse put up, I'll start flowers and warmer weather things-tomatoes, corn, peppers, etc.

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I have been doing some research on growing potatoes and sweet potates in buckets. I fave several kitty littler buckets and from what I've read you can put one plant in each of them. I'm probably going to try that this year.

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I will be trying some pot gardening this year too, I've never had any luck with it before so my heart really isn't into it but I'll give it another whirl! Our eastern exposure just gets SO hot and so much sun...Western backs up to an oak forest so there is literally no sun on that side of the house. The new garden will have an Easter/Southern exposure and will get some shade in the afternoons...I'm thinking I'll need to have a sunshade cover during July-August that can be pulled up and over the garden or I won't have anything left by harvest time! Looking forward to getting to work on it when we get back there...

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Where you have intense sun/heat, I have read that you should plant things on the east side of your house or other structure that will provide much needed shade in the afternoons.

Although I've not done that, I do grow tomatoes, sweet and hot peppers, and eggplants in pots on my covered porch that faces west. I've actually gotten some of my best harvests from those plants vs. growing them out in my regular garden.

I live in southern KY, and it gets blistering hot here in the summer. And the last couple of years I have noticed that my tomato and pepper plants that I put out in my garden get sunburned leaves, and it eventually kills off the plants. So I have been concentrating more on growing them in pots on my porch with excellent results. It also seems to prevent as many bug problems.

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Thanks for the link.

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check out the link I just posted. It is inexpensive and fairly easy to make.

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In case anyone is interested in trying to make a very inexpensive greenhouse, here is the link where I found it. It really is awesome and mine cost me around $75 to make.

http://doorgarden.com/10/50-dollar-hoop-
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I'm so jealous, I would love to have a greenhouse. I am building myself a cold frame, I hope to have it ready for early spring.

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We have a 10x20' greenhouse that's attached to our garage/barn. It's made of those clear panels that people use on barn roofs. I start all my seeds in there in the spring, starting with brassicas (cabbage family plants) and on through lettuces, peppers, tomatoes, and anything else that isn't direct seeded into the garden.



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I built a hoop house greenhouse to see if I could grow anything inside to plant outside in the spring. A cheap way to get the greenhouse I always wanted and to see if I have a green thumb for that sort of thing. Anyone start plants in a greenhouse? I live in the South and need some ideas of what grows best. thanks.


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I have a trellis type of pot in the front of my house. I took a heavy plastic pot, the same circumference as a tomato basket and drilled holes in the upper edge. I filled it with potting soil and planted morning glories in it. Then I inverted a tomato basket, secured it to the pot with zip ties and tied the 3 prongs that go in the ground together. This formed a Christmas tree shape.

In the summer I have a "morning glory" tree and at Christmas I strip off the old dead plants and wrap several strings of lights around it. Instant Christmas decoration and it doesn't have to be stored! In the spring I just replant or just let the volunteer plants spring up.

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Also trellising can allow you to grow up with many vining plants. Just be sure to put the trelliseson the north side of the garden so you don't shade other plants.

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For those of you who have small gardens, try the bush variety of veggies. They spread out less and are easier to contain in a given area.

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You can grow strawberries in hanging baskets. Just get the "ever-bearing" kind. They love baskets.




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Haven't been here for a while,but you all have inspired me! We live in central FL and it's really tough to grow things.

I have tried tomatoes in pots which works ok, and will try again this year, but the summer heat and bugs seems to get the best of them. We have a screen porch which I'm thinking of trying to start some herbs in. I'm hoping that will keep the bugs out, but I'm not sure if there will be enough sun. I'd like to have some strawberries as well. Suggestions are welcome!



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I'm with you LoverofAnimals on the limiting for the small garden. I had squash pop up in the copost pile and just transplanted a couple and they did beautifully but took up a ton of room. I like having something viney growing on my split rail fence so this year it may be gourds to replenish my supply for crafting. My neighbors actually like the privacy these vines provide in the summer. I haven't decided on what new thing I'm going to grow...perhaps a special cantaloupe. Any suggestions for a midwest garden?

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I have received some of the 2012 seed catalogs too, and enjoy looking through them and planning what I will plant. My garden is quite small so I need to limit what I can plant, but I enjoy looking at all the different varieties.

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I'm looking forward to the gardening season (as always!). I have been getting seed catelogs since December and I love looking through them. I haven't really planned my garden yet, but two of my favorite tomatoes are brandywine and yellow tangerine. I plant them every year. My 2011 garden turned out great; I planted less variety and stuck to what I know works. For 2012 I'm thinking of doing the same thing. I like to pick a new variety of tomato each year to try. I wasn't going to plant squash last year because my garden is relatively small and they take up a lot of room. Then my neighbor brought me some plants so I stuck them in. They turned out pretty good, but I think I'll stick to my original plan for 2012...no squash in my garden and I'll buy it at the farmers' market. I'm interested to learn about planting potatoes in bags and black garbage pails...what's that all about? I don't have a real good place for potatoes and would love to grow them!

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I ordered my veggie and herb seeds, also some purple passion aspargus and some strawberries. Yum!

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I just caught myself, in my referigerator, telling one of the peppers, "I WANT your seeds, I WANT your babies!" now....for me, talking to peppers isn't what's strange...I talk to EVERYTHING, what's weird is I said this in my best "Godfather" mafia voice...now, I feel guilty...maybe, I should go apology to the pepper! (now, we know why people around me just shake thier heads & laugh)

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Check with some of your neighbors to find a good nursery in your area. When investing in fruit trees and bushes, it helps to have a good nursery that only stocks varieties that do well in your area.

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We are buying a house this month in the Florida panhandle. I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on what to plant. I also am interested in growing some fruit trees. I know I can do citrus, but I'm not sure about other trees or varieties of berries that do well down here since it gets so hot in the summer.

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My pumpiks did awsome last year, infact, they took over my garden, that's one reason I'm needing to move the garden to a bigger spot in my yard! I start seeds in my house & last year I was INDEED working! But, they took very little care, infact, my problem was, again, we had a late freeze, so I couldn't get them out & they got TOO big!

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Pumpkins for sure. But I might try peppers, carrots, strawberries, rhubarb, peas, and lettuce this year too.

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Kale and Chard start fairly quickly when direct seeded and parsnips like most root veggies need to be planted by direct seeding.

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This thread is SO inspiring! Now I'm getting fired up too.

I have had such poor luck with starting things from seed.... Last year I even bought a "kit" that had a heat mat and little cover to help keep the seeds moist until they germinated. I'm just wondering if those of you who typically start things from seed have other jobs outside your homes? I'd like to use the fact that I commute for work 5 days/week that I'm not paying enough attention to my seeds..... So I'm wondering just what the trick is? You all make it sound so simple.....

My approach to my garden has been to try to grow things I cannot typically find at my local farmer's market, although I like to grow my own tomatoes, onions, and herbs so I can step out my back door to harvest them at will. I cannot find parsnips, kale, or chard at the market so I'll probably be trying some of these again this year. Can I just plant these three things in the ground once the soil warms in the spring? I'm zone 5.

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You could try covering that lettuce to protect it from the frost.

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As usual, I have big plans for the garden. I am trying to figure out how to get a good tomato and summer squash in a rather "challenging"' environment. I haven't even ordered my tomato seeds yet! It is already time to plant lettuce, beets, carrots and some cole crops where I live, according to the regional extension office. (I'm still picking lettuce and augula from last fall's planting, but I am afraid the hard frost that is coming will do it in).
I will start lots of eggplants and peppers, those always seems to do well. I am starting some herb seeds indoors. My husband seems determined to grow corn. I will do beans, at least some long beans, maybe regular green beans too. I will try cantalope, as they were getting expensive and not very good tasting in the stores last year. I have a few sprouting potatoes and sweet potatoes, and am considering trying to use the square foot method for the tomatoes.

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Great idea! any suggestions? maybe, some strawberries or blueberries? I haven't had any success with grapes.

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I'm a little sad about getting started this year... because I am starting over... I typically do raised bed gardens so I am having to by boards..... soil and every thing.

So the plan this year is in January I am going to rebuild every thing then I'm going to plant several variations of tomato's, but i am planting those in buckets along the fence.

Then into the beds i will plant lots of pepper and lots of zucchini and squash and this year i'm gonna go ahead and start RAISING SOME CACTUS... and recently i have been youtubing how to raise chickens.

So I just might be adding those to my yard this year...

And last year here in texas there was a little buzz about container gardening lemon trees and a lot of the nurseries were carrying them and several of the master gardeners seemed optimistic about citrus trees last year so...

So i'm planning to add those to my consideration list for 2012 also.



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Your dog run fence will be perfect for growing the climbing veggies on your list.

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I actually wondered out to my yard today & started clearing out the dead stuff & thinking about my garden! I'm thinking about starting some pepper plants indoors, already...I miss my peppers! Infact, they might just STAY in my house! I'm moving my garden this year to the "dog run" which my dog never hangs out in! It's great, because it is fenced in & he will stay out of my garden! Plus, there is more room than where I was growing last year! I'm SO excited!

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Winter has barely started and I'm looking forward to Spring already. I have a whole stack of catalogs to go through, but I still have plenty of seeds from last year. I plant heirloom tomatoes. I always plant Black Krim, Green Zebra, Roman Striped and Ananas Noire (my favorites) and try a few new ones. Last year I liked Green Envy, a cherry tomato (but they were hard to pick) and Pineapple (a beefsteak)

I usually have at least 10 different varieties of beans all over the place. I use climbing beans as a privacy screen in containers around my patio. The hummingbirds like the flowers and I love the beans. I let some go to seed and use the dried beans for soup.
I also plant sugar snap peas, peppers, all kinds of greens, radishes, beets, broccoli, summer squash, potatoes (in bags) and 3 varieties of eggplant. I keep trying to plant winter squash, but between a short growing season, squash bugs and mildew I never have any luck. I'll try again though. This year I'm going to try a mini edible pumpkin.

I didn't have any luck with my Kale (red winterbor) or Swiss chard last year.I tried in the Spring and again in the fall. It looked like the growth was stunted. I don't know why. It's a new garden bed, so maybe it needed more. I'll try Dinosaur kale this year.






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12/30/11 6:43 A

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"Gee, Ms Shari, we're growing green tomatoes instead of red."
This is a quote from a 15 yr. old student I had at a facility I worked at, while we were discussing the pollenation process in early June one year.
Its amazing how many kids have no idea where their food comes from or how it is grown.
The project to help kids learn how to grow food is wonderful. There are so many things they can learn while still doing reading, writing, math, science, geography and computer skills with the gardening.

As for my personal garden, I am doing garlic and shallots for the first time, I will be starting tomato, pepper, egg plant and tomatilla seeds inside in 8-10 weeks. Then my cool weather crops a couple of weeks after that, lettuces, spinach, collards and other greens. I will also be doing swiss chard, carrots and beans.
I am thinking about trying what a friend did last year, growing potatoes in plastic garbage cans.

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Last year I planted rainbow. I will have to find the Russian Red and White. I love a treasure hunt! Thanks for the information. emoticon

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12/29/11 10:25 P

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Look for 'Red Russian Kale' - it's now a common variety. I know Johnny's Select Seeds has it.


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Where do you get your seed for the Russian red? I think that's just what I'm looking for.

I'm going to work on a project this spring with several county departments to start a garden at one of the poorest elementary schools in my county (85% are title I). That sounds like a GREAT selection for them to try - both cooked and raw.

The Dept. of Health is also participating in the project to teach the kids how to use/cook raw vegetables since many of them have never seen "real" food.

Thanks,
Kim

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The russians (white and red) are very tender and cook up quickly, so you can stir fry them and things without needed to do a lot of steaming or sweating. Plus they are quite sweet for kale, I think. The red is just lovely, to boot. I grow some for bunching, but I also always sow wide rows that I cut for "baby" greens. These are fabulous in salads or tossed by handfuls into anything -- soups, casseroles, stir-fries, etc.


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Shire33....I really had great luck with the Russian kale this year. I'm looking for different varieties. What are the benefits of the ones you have chosen?

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WOW! How interesting.

This year I'm going to start my dwarf fruit tree "orchard": pomegranate, fig, lemon, lime, orange, banana, cherry, blueberry & raspberry.



I have seen women looking at jewelry ads with a misty eye and one hand resting on the heart, and I only know what they're feeling because that's how I read the seed catalogs in January.

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What's going in the ground in 2012? : )

This year I'm doing more of less -- I grow market vegetables, so I tend to grow a lot of what sells well. This year I'm ditching cabbage in favor of more kales. My favorites are Lacinato (dinosaur kale), Red Russian, Winterbor, and White Russian. We're doing more potatoes, more peas and snap beans, and more greens and lettuces of all types. We do 400-500 heirloom tomatoes each year, and I always try at least one or two new varieties. We'll do a lot of summer squash and cucumbers, too, and peppers.

I always love the planning/dreaming stage of each year's plantings!


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