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what I want to get is a head of cloves, I would not eat a whole round unless it could be cut and stored for a few.days

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I usually plant elephant garlic in the fall like regular garlic. I break apart the cloves and plant. They react the same as garlic. They tend to stay in the ground a little longer before harvesting.

This year, I planted in the Spring (when I purchased my cloves). By May/June, they were having problems. I waited as long as I could before I dug them up. They were rounds. You can go ahead and eat them or let them dry. I'll let mines dry like regular garlic and plant them in the fall, again. They should split into cloves this time. It's the bulblets (the little "seeds" hanging off the elephant garlic bulb) that takes two years to develop into a normal elephant garlic bulb. Though, I haven't had much luck with them.



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I goofed, I dug my elephant garlic and just got big round bulbs, later found they should be in for two years, they were from produce section. they are drying now can I replant them or should I start over in the fall

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Mmmmmm, garlic pesto, that sounds yummy!

I found a bunch more of the little bulb-lets when I was digging the soil up to move it to a new bed, so now I have about 50 of them! So I'm going to just take them and spread them individually around all of my garden beds and just let them go. I'm going to hold back one of the Red bulbs for multiplying for next year and see if I can just keep them going.

Garlic festival is next month so I'll pick some other varieties up then for fall planting. It's kind of exciting how easy garlic is to grow, I think I'm hooked!

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Good information. Nice to know!

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You can always use garlic fresh out of the garden without curing/seasoning it. 1st harvest-green garlic in the spring, use like scallion. 2nd harvest-scapes (flower stalk) in May/June, cook it like asparagus or make garlic pesto. 3rd harvest-the main underground bulbs. Curing is for longer storage (fall and winter use). My hardnecks last from 6-9 months. They usually don't make it that long since we love garlic in my family.

The bulblets that come off elephant garlic will take two years to get a splitting bulb. If you plant those bulblets this fall, you will end up with rounds (just single cloves). If you plant those in the following fall, again, you will get normal elephant garlic bulbs with multiple cloves.



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The seasoning/drying is so that the garlic will store longer. You can use it fresh.

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No, I am asking. I had always read you had to "season" it. I have never grown my own garlic but want to. If I can use as soon as I dig it up all the better.

What are our other garlic growers doing on this team. Eat it right away or let it harden?

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If that's how you're supposed to do it, I didn't do it! I just dug 1 bulb out of the ground and cleaned it up and chopped all of the cloves into my turkey burgers fresh out of the ground! It tasted great, too! I think it is a German Red garlic and is a little spicy, really tasty. The tag I had got wet early on so I lost it, so I am not sure it was a German Red, but they are definitely a Red of some sort.

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Wow! I didn't know you could eat the garlic as soon as you harvested it. I thought it needed to dry out 1st. Good to know.



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OK! I picked my garlic!

5 big bulbs of elephant garlic and 6 bulbs of a red variety. They look great and the 1 regular bulb I chopped up and put into turkey burgers tasted great!

So when I dug the elephant garlic up, they all had some little bulb-lets coming off of the main bulbs and there were a bunch of them also in the soil in that area. They are about the diameter of a quarter and not too thick, about half the size of a clove in the bulb. They all have hardened off with a fairly thick sheath, so I am wondering if these are edible? Also, if these are the next generation of elephant garlic, do I just plant them the same way I did last fall and plan on harvesting them next summer?

This has been a fun growing experience, I've never grown elephant garlic before, I'm pretty excited how well they turned out!

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I go out and I pick up some little twigs and put in one on opposite sides of the leaves when the leaves are starting to look a little limp do I can find them. My schedule always has stuff come up so if I don't get them dug up before the leaves disappear I can find them.

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how do you try your garlic

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm that sounds good.



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Yes, my hard-neck garlics have put up scapes (flower stalks). This happens with hard-neck varieties and some soft-neck types. I've been looking forward to this. Do pick them off to encourage larger bulb growth or leave them on to make seeds (topsets) for more planting in the fall.

You can cook the scapes like asparagus...a little olive oil, salt and pepper in a pan or on the grill, chop them up anywhere you want some garlic flavor like in a stir-fry or use them to make garlic pesto.

I usually start harvesting (digging them up) around July 4th or when they still have 5-6 green leaves on them. (I sometimes forget to look at them and they come close to becoming all brown and hardly any parchment layer on them when dug up. Those you eat first since they won't store well along with the ones that got nicked in the process.) The green leaves represent the parchment layers on the garlic bulb when it is cured. The curing or drying process usually takes from 2-3 weeks. Then you can trim them, brush off the dirt and store in cool, dark place.

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mine too had green leaves much of this past winter and there are still clumps of green leaves. Our weather has been so wet here this year that planted seeds have done unsually poorly, but planted green stock has been doing well this year, though I have had some slug problems. I'm waiting for my garlic to do it's summer dieback to harvest some.

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Hi I live in southern NY, SO my weather is probably similar to yours. My garlic started growing after I planted it and grew all winter because it was so mild, it was also well covered with leaves.

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I had read somewhere that if you cut the flower stalks off of garlic, it will "inspire" them to make better bulbs. Not sure where I read that, I'm terrible at saving info!

This is my first year trying to grow garlic, so it's an experiment for me and I'm learning new things with them, too. I planted in the fall and they came up a little in the fall. I planted elephant garlic and another regular variety. Interestingly, both started growing last fall had little nubs of green growth through our relatively mild winter, then started growing nicely when the nights started warming up. We did get a late frost here in the Northwest and the tips got a little damaged but it does not appear to have set any of the plants back.

As soon as I saw the flower stalks about 3 weeks ago, I snapped them off. The elephant garlic is now about 2' tall with a really thick stalk-about 1" in diameter. And just the tips of the leaves are starting to brown. The regular garlic plants are about half as tall with much narrower stalks (naturally!) but more browning on the tips of the leaves.

I'm concerned with when to harvest, too, b/c I don't want to leave them in the ground too long that they start sprouting again! It does make sense to pull them out of the ground when the tops brown, that would imply that the bulbs have stored all the energy they can get from photosynthesis and are just hunkered down for more favorable growing conditions.

Can't wait to try my hand at making a small garlic braid of them all!

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Garlic foliage usually dies back during the summer heat. If it is really cold it will die back then too. Usually harvest time is more midsummer. I don't think garlic is real picky about being planted in the spring or the fall. It just needs some time to establish before it gets really hot or cold. Actually I think you can plant a clove in the less desirable times for growth and there is a good chance you will see it in the next growing season.

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ok thanks

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Generally garlic should be harvested when the leaves start to turn brown and they fall over. You can take off the seed pods on the top, that is supposed to encourage larger bulbs.

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Hmm...I'm no expert, but I never started my garlic in the fall. My dad gave me a mess of it, and he happened to have given it to me in the spring, so that's when I planted it. It came up just fine, and I had a nice harvest come summer. It also came back this year. I planted more of it just a few weeks ago, and it's going wild already. Garlic seems to be one of those plants that just wants to grow.

I harvested in July (because that's when my dad said to harvest!). I understand that you can clip off the "scapes" (the curly parts at the top when it starts to go to seed) and use them in cooking.

(Southeastern Ohio, zone 6)

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I too have 6 plantings of garlic to harvest. Aren't we supposed to wait for the foliage to die back before digging up. I am planning to give some of my harvest to my brothers 'inlaws' for use in cooking and to get them some stock there so they can grow some too.

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Hi, well my garlic has been up,and going but now it is going to seed what should I do now and when do I harvest, I live in NY south of Seneca lake

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I'm glad I stumbled on this thread as I love garlic & always wanted to grow some but seem to missed the season fir planting.

I live in New Orleans.
Curious what types grow best here. And want to learn the different types. I've bookmarked so I can come & read what seems to be good info here.

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Hi, Shutrbug1. I haven't been yet, maybe this year......actually August is already shaping up to be really busy for me-trip to Las Vegas, visiting friends in Northern California, hiking trip to Mt. Whitney-so maybe next year! I have gone to the garlic festival in Gilroy, CA, many years ago when it was a "small" event, super fun, and I've been to the garlic fest in Chehalis, WA. I bought my bulbs at the Chehalis garlic fest last year and they're growing really well right now.

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Waterfelon, have you ever been to the garlic festival in North Plains, Or? Its in August and its small, but fun. Garlic food (love the garlic ice cream) and music, plus you can buy a big variety of bulbs from the growers and grow your own.

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My garlic inside has fell over so I will plant some outside at the 2nd week of April amd have it in fall. Then I will plant some in the fall and see how it does for spring.
Just learning how to plant things so hope I will have some luck. My tomatoes are growing real well and I will transplant in April.

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I'm in zone 6, Pacific Northwest. I planted a couple different varieties of garlic last fall. The small bulbs sprouted but then got frosted and went dormant, but the elephant garlic sprouted and has been green all through our winter here. The small bulbs have been popping out of the ground for about a month now and the elephant garlic are now about 6" high. This is the first time I've ever grown elephant garlic, so I'm really looking forward to seeing how they grow and taste later this summer!

I have tried in the past to grow garlic bought from the grocery store-they did grow but not with as much vigor as when I buy bulbs from garlic growers. I know garlic will store for a long time, but since most garlic in grocery stores comes all the way from China, I always wonder just how long the bulbs have been out of the ground and how they've been treated and stored before they get to the grocery store. So for me, personally, I prefer to buy current season bulbs grown for planting from garlic farmers than planting bulbs from the grocery store. Plus, there are so many varieties you can get from actual garlic farmers, it's so fun to grow a lot of different varieties!

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we had a very mild winter and mine grew quit a lot under the mulch

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I always plant mine in the fall and leave it in the ground over winter. Comes up in the spring. It is currently coming up right now.

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A major point in mulching is to prevent frost heaving, which would puh the clove/bulb upward and possbly out ofthe ground. So just be sure that your garlic is well mulched. The leaves at the top of your garlic may get damaged some but as hardy as garlc is, it will regrow new leaves in the spring.

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Hi, I planted my garlic a little to early and it is about 6 inches high, I live in NY zone 5 what will that do to it. It is going to freeze fpr sure even well mulched

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interesting

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I soak each variety in a soda water mix (tablespoon baking soda and fish fertilizer per gallon of water) overnight before planting. This helps protect the garlic from fungus and gives them an energy boost. Then I soak them a few minutes in rubbing alcohol immediately before planting to kill pests, pest eggs and pathogens the first soaking missed.

Don't worry if they have started to grow. They are designed to grow in the fall, rest in the winter and bulb out in late spring/summer. I've had some grow in the fall. It's assuring to know they are peeking out there in the snow in winter. They might get a little wind burned, but they will continue to grow in the spring. They are very hardy.

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When the tops start to die down it's time to harvest. Then you should let them dry for a day or two like with onions. Then knock off the dirt and store them somewhere cool and dry (not the fridge though). They'll keep fine through the next year until your next harvest.

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Thanks for the info. I know we can cut the stalks at some point and use them for cooking. When do I do t hat?

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Hi where I am at in Horseheads New York south of Seneca lack is zone 5A

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Yes, my garlic has always sprouted in the fall and is perfectly fine in the spring. Agree with the heavy mulching. You can use leaves, shredded newspaper, or something similar.

So.....what hardiness zone IS southern New York?

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Your garlic will probably be okay. After the first hard frost, mulch it wel with shredded leaves or something similar. In sprng it should continue growing.

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DH planted our garlic earlier this year, following guidelines from Territorial Seed, where I bought them. (We usually plant in Mid November) Now, three weeks later, they are all sprouting 4" of green growth. Anybody know if that matters? Should I cut them back?

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thanks I did

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If you google hardiness zone and your zip code, you will get results that will show you your zone.

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where are the p[lanting zones in the US what is the zone for southern New York

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Talking with another Master Gadener, who has grown garlic for year, she told me to pierce the root end of the clove with a small pin. She stated that this helps the clove develop roots more quickly. I'm giving it a try and will try to let you know the results.

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Ooooo I never heard of freezing garlic whole. I'm going to have to try that!

I just planted my garlic a week or so ago and the ground was not frozen yet. Zone 5. I have it tucked under lots of fallen leaves. I figure I time it about the same way you'd time planting any other bulb. Before a hard freeze so it has time to acclimate a little before the winter. Then it will be ready to harvest late summer. Yummo!

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thanks for the information

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Hello. I personally like to grow hard necks. They usually have 5-8 big cloves. The soft necks are great for braiding. They have lots of cloves 10-20, some small. My garlic keeps from 3-6 months depending on variety. I do grow a bunch of garlic. I usually use some and give some to friends and family. They all love the stuff. My mom is done with all the ones she planted and wants more from me which I gladly ration to her every month and save some as seeds for her to plant for next year. (We plant around mid October and harvest around July 4th.) If I don't ration, she would cook all of it at once. My family members are heavy garlic users. I heard from an organic farmer that if you have too much you can can freeze the bulbs/cloves whole. You don't need to peel them, either. Just thaw what is needed to cook. This method retains the best flavor. A friend of mine dries hers and makes garlic powder.

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how long does garlic keep and what do you do when you grow a bunch of it and don't use it right away

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I'd like to read peoples opinion on hardneck versus soft neck garlic.

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I ordered mine a while ago from a local garlic farm supply company referred to me by garlic farmer here in Maryland. Unfortunately cannot recall the name of the company though!
I should be receiving my garlic here shortly and it'll go in our tomatoe beds since during the winter THEY won't be inhabiting them!
If I remember right we're getting two different types. One is from Republic of Georgia, and another is some other siberian version. Both are purple and quite spicy.

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This is great! Thanks for sharing all these links and tips--will have to try it myself this year!



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ok thanks

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Judging from zone maps of New York and that you say of the area, nd that you should plant garlic after the first hard frost, when the ground has started to cool. I would guess planting in late Oct. or early Nov. would work.

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need to know when to plant garlic in southern New York, I am hearing November but the ground might be frozen by then

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Great video. Still waiting for CHATTIEGIRL to tell us how we can start garlic inside. Hope she returns to this thread soon.



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Peaceful Valley Organics just recently put out a video on growing garlic, I wish they wouldve had this last year!! LOL but very informative!! Now I know what to do!
groworganic.com/seeds/seed-garlic.ht
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i think garlic is supposed to be in fall, same time you plant tulip bulbs and stuff (zone 5) I did plant some in the spring this year, some are growing, but I doubt they will get very big

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I don't have the garden space to spare so growing indoors would be a considerable advantage.

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We love garlic and I would love to know how to plant inside. Is there any good website? I love Mother Earth News magazine, so the article was perfect.

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I usually plant my garlic in the late fall (Oct/Nov). I'm in zone 8A in North Carolina. It may sprout if our weather is still warm but it dies back with the frost. I usually harvest (depending on variety) around Jun/Jul. You just have to cut the flower stems when they come up in summer and keep the weeds out to get a larger bulb. Nice soft soil (lots of compost/peat) helps to let the bulb grow larger as well.

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Please share with us how we can start it inside.



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I grow garlic and i just saw a way I can start it inside and put it out in the early spring. The garlic I put in this year did not grow so I won't use that kind again. May not be the garlic totally because it has been so dry and then we get 3 to 4 days rain. feast or famine but things can't grown that way. Plus having chemo and being really sick I haven't been able too take care of it how it should be. Next year it will be a better garden.

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The grocery store garlic can be used to grow garlic at home. However, if you are going to go to the work of growing it yourself why not experiment with something different. Just like different tomatoes and lettuces taste different, so do different garlics. Try 2-3 different kinds and save a cople of bulbs of the ones you like most for the next years crop.

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that is a good article, some have said you can use grocery store garlic, would what you get in your area grow in your area

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Traditionally, garlic is planted on the shortest day of the year. However, for many of us, December 21 can mean that the ground is frozen or that there is snow on the ground. So adjusting for garden zones, garlic should be planted in the fall, early enough that the roots can develope but the tops don't break soil.
Here is an article from Mother Earth News on planting and harvesting garlic
www.motherearthnews.com/Organic-Gard
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Looking forward to the feedback because I want to try planting it as well. I live in NJ and I think it is Fall. Also wondering when the harvest of that garlic would be.



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when should I plant garlic, I live in southern New York

Edited by: KOKOEK9 at: 8/3/2011 (17:08)
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