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DAWNMARIENYSSE Posts: 17
4/30/11 5:12 P

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Raised beds are the best! Have fun filling them. It is allot more space than you might thing, because you don't walk in them (ideally, as long as you can reach across them) so every inch is growing space!

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4/26/11 10:02 P

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4/26/11 10:01 P

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Hi Ya'll

I just bought The Vegetable Gardeners Bible. I hope its OK. I saw it at Lowes and picked it up with some seeds and a little kit to start some Marigold and Nasturtium seeds. I have high hopes. I changed my photo pic so I could share my Easter present from my hubby.
He put in the raised beds for me. AM very very thankful.

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DAWNMARIENYSSE Posts: 17
4/26/11 4:14 P

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I have both of the Square foot gardening booKks and use them both. They suggest not using soil at all, but an equal mix of compost, peat moss and vermiculite (which is cheapest at a building supply store, loo in the loose bagged insulation area. I have had great luck with the mix and althought he initail investment is a little high, it pays off in yeilds. And there are really no weeds, which would come from soil.

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PCHARLES's Photo PCHARLES Posts: 13
4/23/11 11:08 A

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Surprizingly, Walmart is becoming a pretty good place for Organics. They sell reasonably priced bales of peat, bags or organic humus and manure, and some OMRI certified bags of compost. So I would look there first.

If you have not already done so, get the book on Square Food Gardening . I suggest you get the original one first
www.amazon.com/Square-Foot-Gardening
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and not the "All New" edition
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I feel this edition has been over simplified to make room for large color pictures. It is certainly more attractive to read, and the pictures are great, but it lacks some of the detail in the older book. At around $13 each I have both books and have bought copies of the older one for my relatives. You can look inside them and get a feel for which one you prefer.

Do not fear the Miracle Gro, if that is all you can get, but you are better off buying generic brands without fertilizer and saving some money. Again, Walmart is a good source. Once you have some soil in the bed you can amend it with more organic mixtures of compost each time you replant. Avoid large amounts of "top soil" unless you need a couple of cubic yards of something cheap because you are looking to build a humus rich environment that is free draining and easy to work.

I know some people are opposed to Walmart, but as far as I am concerned, one big box store (Walmart, Target, Lowes, Costco, Meijer, etc) is the same as another. They all truck in from miles away. I get a lot of my stuff at a place called Erickson's Feed and Seed in town, so look in the Yellow Pages for places that sell animal feed and farm supplies.

Edited by: PCHARLES at: 4/23/2011 (11:12)
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4/23/11 10:43 A

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Looking to the future... If you have the space you should definately start your own compost pile using kitchen scraps, dead leaves, etc. When we started our garden, we bought a truck load or organic compost from a local garden center and since then I have ammended the soil very little other than adding our own compost. Now THAT'S what true miracle-grow really is emoticon !

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4/21/11 4:12 P

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Re: the worms -mine aren't in my garden, they're on my balcony in a little worm bin where I am making my own compost. But until I have enought, or even some (since they are so new), I had to buy my compost.

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4/21/11 3:41 P

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Buying in bulk is almost always cheaper than by the bag. If you have access to a pick up, you can save delivery charges. When buying in bulk remember there are 27 cubic feet per; cubic yard. If you google - bulk soil organic and your zip code, you should be able to find places in your area that sell organic soil.
If you can, I would reccomend a combination of top soil and compost.

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4/21/11 2:43 P

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for my raised beds: I got soil and added in peat moss and manure/humus. I wanted vermiculite, but i couldnt find any locally. i will add in worm castings when i put in my transplants.

i would definitely try to find an organic garden place (i've noticed several in my area) or local garden center so someone can answer your questions.
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4/21/11 2:26 P

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Thanks for the great info...I have a Lowe's near me so I can go look around. I am in central PA and it's kind of ironic because we have a LOT of farming communties all around me, but hardly anything organic anywhere. It's kind of sad actually. There are a few specialty garden centers that I know of that I'm going to check out, but we don't have any specific organic supply stores.
Are worms helpful to put in a garden? I mean obviously it's natural but do you think I won't "attract" worms to my garden just by having a garden...I mean I guess if it's raised, they wouldn't naturally be in there....I probably sound really naive, but I'm a new gardener and also new to the organic world!

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4/21/11 2:19 P

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I also steered clear of everything with "miracle gro" written on it, even though they do have a so called organic product.

I found a great Kellogg product (which I could remember the exact name) at Lowes which was all organic and actually certified by OMRI (Look for this certification on products).

It was cheaper than others on a per square foot basis and the ingredients looked great (worm castings, bat guana, chicken manure, etc.) No chemicals or yucky stuff in there.

Here's a link to a product I found when I was trying to find a picture of what I actually bought.
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My bag was black and white striped, not green, so either the packaging changed or this is something different. I know Lowe's carries it.

Also, what area are you in? can you find any local organic supply stores? I discovered a place to buy worms and they actually sell their own worm castings and compost too.

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4/21/11 1:50 P

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In my experience a regular garden center - like a chain - is less likely to have organic or natural products than a little ol' Mom and Pop garden center. We have some of those around us and they seem to be more "nature oriented". Look for some around you who have been started by a master gardener or have been in the business for a while. They may be able to direct you some where you can get soil and compost in bulk instead of in a bag....

Good luck!

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Hi! So I cleared out my backyard last weekend and alas, the soil is not good for growing veggies this year. It needs some work. I was gifted a raised garden kit...it has the box and everything I need except soil. I went to my local hardware store today and I saw a lot of Miracle Gro stuff. I don't know anything about MiracleGro, but since it's name isn't "NaturalGro" I have a feeling that using it would rule out my garden from being organic. Does anyone know what I should be looking for on the packaging when I am searching for soil? Any advice would be appreciated!

P.S. the only package with the word "organic" on it was cow manure!!!! emoticon

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