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Is there ever just one cause of an addiction?

I'm reading a book called "Love Hunger" about overeating. The causes are numerous - cultural pressure and high portion size, childhood issues, stress, boredom, all the usual causes of addiction, the list goes on.

For me, when I was little, I saw eating a lot as being grown-up, and there was nothing I wanted more than to be grown up. So for me, eating a whole frozen pizza wasn't a problem, it was a good thing, no different from getting a good grade on a test or a great bowling score.

Then my father started giving me a hard time about my weight, picking me apart for everything I ate. My mother? Didn't care one way or another about my weight or eating habits - and even praised me for finishing off other peoples meals so they didn't have to. So out of one side, I was hearing badgering and nagging, and out of the other, a respite from that.

So needless to say, eating won. I ate what I wanted in college in any amount - and lost weight because I walked everywhere. After college? The walking disappeared - the eating as I pleased didn't. I ballooned 70 pounds from leaving college until my 25th birthday - and decided I'd had enough.

I joined Spark under a different name and dropped 35 pounds. Then I got a new job, back in a call center - and it all came back more quickly. I yo-yo dieted and exercised for years - to no avail.

Then, last September, my mother-in-law got sick. She had to rely on us for everything - food, bathroom, medicine, changing her bed, getting up, etc. She couldn't leave the house and needed me and my wife for everything. On top of that, I was in my third year of law school, a ton of work, and working 40 hours a week. So needless to say, I was busy, stressed, and fighting with my equally-stressed wife all the time.

Food became my oasis. I didn't work, I didn't take care of people, I didn't study - I just ate. And boy did I eat. I would order the triple from Wendy's with a large fry - and add on two or three dollar menu items. And pick up candy bars to add to it. If I went out to eat, I ate a huge entree and appetizer and as much bread as I could eat. I would put away an entire Bloomin' Onion from Outback along with a huge steak and potato - and ask what was for dessert. If I was at home? A whole can of Pringles as an appetizer.

I shot up to 331 pounds and decided to start working on it. But it's going to be a lot of work breaking all of the factors that contributed to my overeating. I see so many commercials for food, so many temptations not to exercise or to give in, so many opportunities not to eat well - and eating well can be downright impossible, and you look like a freak doing so. It's so much easier to be heavy.

I need some measure of support. My wife just said she lost some weight but she doesn't make the same choices I've started making, nor did she eat to the extremes I did. My friends don't try to lose weight. My co-workers are far more advanced than I am - they talk about Insanity, P90X, etc. I speedwalk. I'm nowhere near P90X. I just want to feel better.

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6/7/14 3:04 A

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I have never been able to pinpoint where the habit stemmed from.

I believe that it is emotional.

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5/19/14 5:15 P

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To answer the question emotional or physical - I don't know!
I tend to think it's a combination of things.
I think BOTH our emotions AND the physical aspects deserve attention.




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Emmeelizabeth3 - I just joined this team and just read your post. You have such courage sharing all that. I hope you WILL reach out and ask for help. If you can please start a sparkpage and blog about how you're doing. Could be just a few lines about simple things, but I believe that sooner or later other members here will start responding to you.
I'm so sorry for all the grief and pain you've been through.




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My food addiction is from being kidnapped and raped; food became my coping device. I nearly died from being raped I had to have two blood transfusions and in order to get out of the hospital the nurse said I had to eat and I could go home. The nurse didn't know I was kidnapped and so in my young mental mind I started eating rationalizing if this is what will get me home well then lets go.
I have lost so many years of my life from this trauma I feel like I am beginning again, and again a bad movie like Groundhog day. I want to break this vicious cycle. I don't see myself as beautiful and for so many years I viewed myself as broken, damaged goods. I am not even sure how to reach out and ask for help. I no longer desire for food to be my comforter- food is not my god.

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I think it is emotional, physical, spiritual, mental. I have had all of the eating disorders at one time or another and while I can track how I acquired some of them, the bottom line is that I am addicted and I know have to put my focus on what I am going to do about it. I find that for me there are three main components underlying and fueling my addiction: shame, fantasy and isolation. Shame began with some of the experiences from my childhood. I grew up in an alcoholic home where "Don't talk, don't trust and don't feel" were the norms. That created isolation and an inability to have any way to reach out beyond myself. I didn't know how to ask for help because I didn't know how to communicate beyond questions that elicited "yes" or "no" answers. When I learned about open questions a whole world opened up to me. But for years "don't trust" kept me from using those communication skills, even when I knew what I felt. It also took me years to figure out what I needed, since my needs were given no credence. Food kept me company, soothed the feelings I wasn't supposed to have and kept the numbness of the shock stage of PTSD going. It was a powerful ally at one time but I have outgrown finding it useful as I have substituted people for the isolation of a binge/deprivation. I have found the best way to let an outgrown best friend go is to do it gently, with respect for what it has done for me in the past. That takes self-acceptance, bonds with other people and the courage to use the skills I now have. Not easy but so much more rewarding.
The fantasy for me was that the way I used food was doing all that I wanted it to, that it would again some day (when it had outgrown any real usefulness and was hurting me), and that bingeing would have no consequences. I also told myself that I didn't care sometimes, which was a lie.
Spirituality - the ability to live and appreciate life - was lacking because eventually depression and increased shame took its place. I didn't trust me so I didn't think I could trust anyone, including God. I had it backward, I believe. I had to learn to lean on God to be able to get to the point where I could again trust myself and others. Not an overnight thing!
My best thinking got me in this addiction spot where I am today and my mind can be a deluded, dark neighborhood. I run my thinking regarding food by others, including on SP forums, in order to be in a better place mentally. I already know what I know and it ain't workin', so time to try new things!
Today I try not to lie because that is the first step down the addiction and shame spiral that leads me into a binge. Especially I try not to lie to myself. Honesty is the keystone for all the rest of my program.
The physical was written about by another lady. Wow! I learned some things I didn't know from you. I knew it was a disease pathway and that genetics were involved but you really covered a lot of how. Thank you!
This post got awfully long. If you are still reading, thanks! I am so glad you all are here, you help me more than you can know, even when I am just reading and not writing.
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I am new here and need a lot of help for sure. I am with at least 2 things that I am addicted to.

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2/21/13 1:16 P

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Yeah... And it is an addiction. I am currently taking an addiction counciling and I never knew that my over eating was one. Bt it has opened my eyes. So I have started writing down what I am eating to keep track and it helps a hole lot. Especially if I find something I want to eat. I put in in my tracking and see how many calories it has, and that makes me not want to eat it! Since I started doing that I have lost 9 pounds!

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11/9/12 3:37 P

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Overeating is definitely more of an emotional issue for me, and I'm SOOOO ready to be free!
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As a matter of fact, I just blogged about it today: www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
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11/9/12 9:38 A

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oh and my current measurements

4 ft 11
aged 30
and i weight 7st 12lbs - maybe 13

My weight when im not bingeing is usually 7st 5lbs (a couple of lbs either way)
so not grossly overweight but still I hate that i can't control my self around food i hate that i have gained weight and that i cant get it off and i hate that i spend more time with food than anything or anyone else in my life

i resent being here it sucks


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11/9/12 9:34 A

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There is no real reason as to why I eat it could be any reasom - it doesnt matter. Being on this site means I can see I am not the only one that does what I do that there are a whole host of people out there in the great wide world experiencing the same emotions and struggle with food as I am.

Yet this realisation is not reassuiring - it makes me realise the futility of our efforts that there is no recovery from this.

Then when I tell my myself theres no point in fighting it - suddenly my fighting defiant spirit kicks in and I'm like no way will I give in to this. My food addiction is not the boss of me I will be free of this c&&p once and for all.

And then of course it all starts again and so far i have managed to get through 4 days without a binge max 5.

I started with binge eating/compulsive eating almost 7 years ago and even though i told myself my 30th year will be the year I stop being depressed. overeating and start living my life I havent done any of it. This last year has been the toughest so far - i have been floating between what feels like severe depression to anger, despair, general irrritability, hiding away from the world in my bed so all in all not a good year.

I dont want to keep wasting my life away like this - Im tierd of food being my only companion. (then Im also afraid that tomorrow and the day after il be back where i started bingeing and bingeing and hating myself and the world).

I'm at a loss - nothing works for me.

I want to stop yet I don't.
I want to stop and I can't
I simply wish once i make the decision to stop (like i do every day) that would be it I will never binge, overeat, comfort eat - but lo and behold I do exactly that.

so thank you god for giving me this damn disorder, addiction or whatever u want to call it - I thank you.
so anyway here we are - now where do i go?


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I been focus on the bad that happen to me and see everything in dark storm and food is to fill the void in my heart that I lose and it give me something to do so I won't deal with pain, sadness, angry that I feel everyday. emoticon


I got want to do it and do this for me. My mind is in battle and my body is at war. I'm in battle with myself and if I can over come myself than I can over come it all and do it one day at a time, let it go and get one step closer to my goal.


















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I had a good ween when I visited my brother . He and his family now eat healthy meals. But as soon as I walked into my own home--well--- let's not go there. Chris emoticon

GOAL: Reduce A1C,BP,tryglicerides,and weight. HOW? By not eating added sugar, using Omega3s, base meals on veggies, water aerobics at least 3X week and using NuStep when I can't get to the pool.

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11/4/11 9:08 A

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I am in such a rut right now. I have been tracking and exercising faithfully since sept. (even though I go over my calories every day I still track them) I am feeling good about the workouts but have actually gained 4 lbs in 2 months cause I can't stop eating and grabbing junk. I quit smoking just about a year ago but having food fill the void is not working for me. Its so discouraging to work out so hard and still see the scale go up because of overeating. I just had to get this out of mind and down somewhere. Good luck to all.

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10/30/11 10:30 A

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I found out that for me it's definitely a need for feeling good. I eat to feel good. If I'm having an extremely bad day the food would make me feel better temporarily and then after I ate it I would immediately feel bad about myself. I believe my cause of addiction is merely the fact that I'm missing something in my life. Now that I've realized what I'm missing is not food, I'm searching for that thing that I'm missing. I'm trying to fill a void.

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emoticon That sounds very brave to me. Separate me from my food. Oh Lordy, Lordy!

Good job!


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GOAL: Reduce A1C,BP,tryglicerides,and weight. HOW? By not eating added sugar, using Omega3s, base meals on veggies, water aerobics at least 3X week and using NuStep when I can't get to the pool.

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I know this may sound crazy, but I decided to do a little "personal cleansing" and went on a 4 day fast. I certainly don't condone this as a way of loosing weight per say, but what I have learned is incredible. I learned that I really wasn't as hungry as I thought I was all the time, in fact, my stomach only growled about twice during this time. I didn't really crave certain foods my body just seemed to run on auto-pilot, and I was able to clearly identify when I would normally binge or emotional-eat, as I had to deal with those uncomfortable feelings instead of eating. That was the biggest eye opener and I now realize that by restricting myself from food entirely, I was able to really see what normally made me reach for food.

A little extreme I know, but effective.

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Emotional and physical both. I don't think I ever have learned to have pleasure without food.
I grew up in a family surrounded by food ( family grocery store and Mom was a great cook and showed her love through food).

We did not go places and do activities. We sat around and chatted and had meals. I was good at school but that did not get me moving. I'd do homework for hours. I was always tired and slept lots. Probably eating that much made me lethargic.

Depression set in at an early age. I never could figure out why I was always so tired--and I still am. If I am not being active, food gives me a break from boredom.

So at 64 years old, I am still fighting this battle. Chris

GOAL: Reduce A1C,BP,tryglicerides,and weight. HOW? By not eating added sugar, using Omega3s, base meals on veggies, water aerobics at least 3X week and using NuStep when I can't get to the pool.

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10/3/11 10:32 A

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I completely agree that we become dependent on foods (sometimes any thing will do) to deal with certain situations.

Example: I realized this last night (well this am rather while looking at myself disgustingly in the mirror) that when my husband leaves for the week (we own a trucking business so he is gone M-F), I reach for whatever food is available to shove in my face do deal with the sadness of missing him. Last night it was cookies that I had just bought. I knew I shouldn't be eating them, but did it anyway. This morning, of course woke up disgusted with myself for doing so. I know I have to find a different way to deal with the feelings of missing him everytime he leaves and food cannot be the answer. I used to find other ways to keep emotionally protected by using intimacy, or lack thereof, as my weapon of choice. If we were not intimate, then I wouldn't be so vulnerable=I wouldn't miss him so much. Worked, but just made me bitter and my marriage on the rocks. I don't recommend substituting one for the other, take it from my experience.

Gotta dig deep, I mean really deep to figure the addiction out. I am glad that I can write about this stuff and have others who "get it" and not think I'm a freak.

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9/27/11 12:52 P

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I think all addictions begin emotionally but eventually become a physical need your brain craves. It is very easy for a person who is addicted to one substance to become dependent on another because of the similar way various substances interact in our brains. Neurochemically, trigger foods interact in our brains in the same way as narcotics or alcohol act in the brains of those with drug or alcohol addictions (of course, each drug has its own components that bind to our brains differently, but the pathways and sections affected are overall the same). So, once a person uses emotional reasons to overeat enough, their bodies become dependent on the food in certain situations... and then eventually can become dependent on the trigger foods all the time. From an emotional standpoint, perhaps this is so that we can actually prevent the feelings we are hiding from, rather than start to feel them then cover them up. I don't know, but I think there are definitely components of both emotional and physical reasons. Because of this, we cannot just stop eating certain foods - we must work at the emotional reasons behind our food choices so that we can stunt our bodies' physical responses to them.

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9/26/11 7:25 P

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For me, food is a way to soothe/numb myself. Anything that makes me feel good becomes an additiction.

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I know mine is emotional. Which kind of sucks because I mean we have emotions all the time. So I am trying to find other ways to deal with the eating. I can eat because I happy or sad. Mostly sad though.

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I'm not sure where my bingeing comes from. Emotional maybe? but more times than not, a craving just hits me....I get mouth hungry even if my belly is full. I have gotten to the point where I have been able to admit that I have a problem, and I can talk to myself before I binge to try and talk myself out of it, but then I just say, I want it so I'm going to have it. I know what I'm doing- almost like its ok because I'm acknowledging what I'm doing. Stupid I know. I guess my answer is, I don't know where it comes from, but I'm am trying to figure it out.

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I know for certain that my bingeing started out as 100% emotional. Over the last few years, though, it became more of something done by habit, and gradually less and less gratifying.
I stopped getting the release and numbness that always served me.
I did an online (for a fee) program called Shrink Yourself (which I highly recommend) and I have progressed with better eating but still occasionally binged out of boredom, emotions, and sheer habit. Now I'm doing Weight Watchers, and having to stay within certain points, and having to write down and monitor every single thing I eat, is inspiring me not to binge at all anymore. Still, I only started WW last week, LOL, so I'll keep ya posted!!

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I think my cause of addiction comes from the fact that I do not feel whole unless I have that feeling of being stuffed. Sounds crazy right?! EXample: I ate a healthy lunch, it took away the hunger feeling, I was satisfied but not overly full. A few minutes later a commercial came on t.v. for something we had in the fridge, immediately my brain said let's eat that. Because I had been journaling and watching out for the "triggers" I knew what it was and worked through it. But before I got to this point I would have ate it. I dont know if this stems from childhood or adulthood.

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Mine is a strong emotional pull. I will walk into the kitchen or pass through and grab. We have to leave my daughter's snacks out or she forgets and buys more or lets it expire. Which takes work for some of her stuff. Because it's out, it can be very hard not to grab the junk. I will also go to the kitchen just to eat. I have to stop and ask myself why. Which does not always work.

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This is just my view:
It may start off as emotional as a way to survive the painful experiences of life (usually childhood). Eating certain foods can cause certain chemical reactions in our bodies (physical) and make us feel 'good' (emotional). When we are faced with a circumstance or experience that triggers the original painful emotions, we seek comfort in the food that made us feel good the first time. Repeated often enough, we find ourselves in an addictive cycle. We have a 'habit' that is emotional and physical and very difficult , but not impossible, to break.

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Often emotional: Why did I overeat? Stress, boredom, procrastination, tired?
If you deprive your body of nutrients, however, then a "craving" might actually be your body telling you that it is deprived of badly needed nutrients, and that prolonged deprivation can turn into a session of overeating.

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Personally, I think it starts out as emotional but somewhere along the way, it becomes physical too.

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Where do you think your habits of overeating come from? Do you think it's emotional or physical?

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