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11/19/13 7:37 P

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When I ran in very cold conditions I wore wool MITTENS.



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11/19/13 3:43 P

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Today was the first really cold day we've had, with 10 degree temperatures and 25 mph wind gusts. There was icicles on my hat when I was done. I wore two pairs of leggings, two tops, a hat, and gloves. While I wouldn't say that any of me felt warm ever, my hands were just freezing. I was wearing HEAD brand running gloves, but I might as well have had nothing on for all the good they did. Does anyone have any recommendations for gloves? I have a really heavy pair of OR wool gloves that might work. Can anyone else think of a reason not to try them?

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11/1/13 11:34 P

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I've only been running for about a year and a half, so this is just my second winter. I'm in Chicago, but last year was a pretty mild winter, so the coldest weather I ran in was 18°F. For that cold, I wore tights, a long-sleeved shirt, a light shell jacket, gloves, a hat, and my Smartwool socks, and I was comfortable. (I actually started that run with an additional layer on top, but was too warm quickly and took it off.) Pretty much all my running clothes are tech fabric, not cotton. I wouldn't recommend a "regular" knit hat or gloves, as they'll get wet when you sweat (which you will, believe it or not!), and make you even colder.

Because the weather was so mild last year, I didn't have to deal with snowy/icy sidewalks very much, but this year, I'm going to my friendly local running store to get screws put into an oldish pair of running shoes.

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11/1/13 8:13 A

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-40, @ Timothy I know, right!?

I've been night Nordic skiing at - 15 before, we were training for a ski marathon, so were actually getting hot, peeling off layers while icicles hung from our eyelashes and eyebrows. When it's that cold I'd grab a balaclava as well and layer, layer, layer... A


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11/1/13 1:07 A

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I don't think I'd care to run if it's that cold, but I will try to get out more this winter also. What i'm happy about this year is the fact I finally got contacts to wear for outdoor sports. No more glasses fogging up especially when it's cold and I wear my gater.

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11/1/13 12:21 A

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-25ºC

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10/31/13 6:17 P

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I live and run in Canada. I have tied the yaxtrax type of running spikes onto my shoes. I've always used the ones with spikes rather than the ones with springs on the bottom for grip. it's just one of my quirks. I tie them on so they don't fall off on their own. I've been doing this for the past 4 winters, and have no complaints. I might try the screws that screw right into your shoes - they look great to try out at least.

I wear long underwear. I have invested in the running gear - moisture wicking. I've found the fleece type are just far too warm unless it's getting colder than -40Celcius (which happens to be -40F as well). I tend to struggle with running when it gets much colder than -25C (-13F). I have the gear to be able to do it, but it gets harder to keep my body warm enough when warming up/cooling down. Also, it's hard on my lungs. I have enough trouble with asthma. The extreme colds is hard on them. so I try to avoid it. But for weeks at a time I have to do it.

Mittens are a must for me. Spikes on my shoes. Long underwear - tops and bottoms. a toque to help keep my ears and head warm. I like to have a hood on my hoodie also in case the wind is cutting through. I wear a scarf that I can tuck in if I don't need it, or pull it up over my neck and nose/mouth.

And always layers. Layers I can open up or remove if I need to. long undershirt, t-shirt, hoodie with a hood and a zipper, sometimes a fleece vest, and finally a wind proof running jacket as a top layer over everything. The running jacket can be open up along each underarm seam if I start to overheat.

Long underwear, and long running pants. That's usually enough on my legs. My shoes/running socks are the same year round - I have issues with my feet overheating. I just have to add the spikes for the ice.

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10/27/13 11:01 P

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I've never felt it was too cold to run outside..I have run outside in -15C temps (it doesn't get any colder where I live) and I would happily run outside if it got colder.

I have yaktrax but dislike them over 15K as I get blisters, they are also terrible if there are patches of bare pavement. The screw shoes are FAR better.

I have a selection of half zip tops in various thicknesses, a couple of thin jackets to layer on top if it's wet, and I love my smartwool socks.



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10/27/13 10:06 P

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I have run as low as 15ºF. Icicles on my beard. I think my cutoff is when the water in my bottle freezes. Last year I went out for a run at 18ºF for an intended 13 miles. My bottle was freezing up at 9 miles so I pulled the plug.

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10/27/13 8:02 P

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I'm a Minnesota running girl. I love snowy morning runs. It's beautiful and peaceful. I agree with others, you'll be surprised how warm running keeps you. I have my own rules for certain temps. For example, under 20, 2 layers on legs, knee high smart wool socks. Below zero, I'll wear the balaclava head thing. For me it's the wind that is the coldest. A light windbreaker over a good running top and a neck gaiter are usually enough.
Enjoy the new experiences! Winter running is fun!!

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10/25/13 12:32 P

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I live in a northern climate where we're already experiencing short, dark days and temperatures into the 30s in the morning, when I love to run. We'll get into the negatives before the winter is over, along with winds up to 90 mph gusts on bad days. In my climate, a headlamp and a clip on light for your back are a must. I've discovered the standard headlamps are surprisingly heavy and press uncomfortably into my head after the first 45 minutes or so, therefore a lightweight headlamp is a good idea, if you can find one.

I also invested in a pair of Petzl Spiky Plus running tread, which slip over your running shoes and add traction in ice and snow. In my experience, they feel less unnatural than YakTrax when running or walking because they aren't as bulky.

I also run hot, so I don't wear a lot of heavy clothes, but I do make sure all my skin is covered, including my hands, so that my skin doesn't get burned from the cold and wind.

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10/25/13 11:06 A

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The main thing to watch out for is ice or freezing rain. YakTrax or similar are good. Sometimes there can be ice under snow as well.

I run hot so I will still be wearing shorts down into the 30s. So it depends on the person and the climate.

Agree with reflective gear and hi-viz clothing.

If there's a lot of snow, I have a pair of running snowshoes, or I cross country ski :)



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10/25/13 10:21 A

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I run all winter, and I'm Canadian so cold & snow are involved. My personal cut off is -30C with the wind chill. As temperatures drop I add layers. For hovering around freezing down to about -10C I can tend to run with underarmor tights, cold gear top, a wind breaker type jacket (from the Running Room), gloves and a toque (sometimes). As the temperature drops I'll add another top first, then add a fleece jacket, and then fleece pants.

Because it is dark longer, depending on when you run, making sure you have some reflective gear involved is a really good idea.

One of the hard things is that running shoes are designed to allow airflow so your feet tend to get cold, heavier socks are a must. Also, you need to be care running when it is slushy because cold wet feet makes running really uncomfortable. There are things called Yak-tracks (or something like that) which you can attach to your running shoes to provide better traction. I haven't tried them myself but I know people who use them both when running and even walking in icy conditions.

Running in the snow is definitely harder work, both if it is packed down & there are traction issues and when it is loose & deep. You often have to modify your gait a bit for these conditions. When it is a bit slippery, or salt pellets feel like marbles, it helps to shorten your stride. When the snow gets a bit deep, you need to bound a bit more.

I find my routes often change from the summer to the winter. Trail running is not really possible if they are not maintained. It is better to run routes with sidewalks that get cleared, then on road shoulders. And of course, hills are a bit more difficult when there is the risk of black ice.

I would definitely recommend you set your own sorts of limits as to what weather & temperature you are comfortable with, both based on your cold tolerance and the terrain you are running. For example, I would never run in or just after a freezing rain/icy storm because I'm just going to hurt myself. I also know from experience, what kind of cold temperatures I can still handle breathing at and when it will just hurt.

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10/25/13 10:16 A

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I think KAPELAKIN prety much nailed it in her explanation of cold weather running an dthe only thing I saw missing from your list of items you have or are planning to buy, would be a good pair of warm socks. I like Smartwool and if it is really cold, I will sometimes add a pair of UA Cold gear socks. That makes the fit a liitle tight in my shoes, but keeps my feet warm.

I generally hate winter, but I have come to love it for one thing -- running. I'd way rather run in cold than the hot, humid weather of summer. So far I have made every Saturday long run an outddor run for the last 3 years. The harshest winter conditions I've had to deal with were 18 degree temps with a wind chill of like 4 and another occasion where it there were two inches of snow on the ground and more coming down during the run. No problems in either case.

Experiment with various things for layers. There are a lot of great products out there and it is pretty easy to stay warm (especially when running) without adding to much weight or bulk. Give it a chance. I think you'll like it.

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10/25/13 9:54 A

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The cold never stopped me until last year. For some reason I couldn't handle the cold, plus I had major surgery in Oct. and running out in the snow and ice was not a good idea. I also found it very difficult to transition from treadmill to road. I did a 5 mile race in April and it was tough. I had only been outside running once before that. I'm going to try and get out again this year. I won't run if it's icey, but someone on here mentioned wearing yak traks for running. I wear them walking but have never tried running in them plus I've also heard the same about what KAPELAKIN has done to her shoes. Clothing, depending how cold it is, I wear a compression shirt and a light weight jacket over that, Compression tights and hat or headband and gloves and a gator around my neck. If we have a windchill, I will pull it up to my nose. Try different things and see what works for you. I get cold easily so I tend to over dress plus I run around the lakes which is always colder.

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10/25/13 9:42 A

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I ran a race in -4F temps last winter, and I didn't like it, but I was none the worse for doing it. For normal training runs, I'll generally hit the treadmill if it's below 20F.

What gear you need really depends on where you live, whether you'll be dealing more with rain or cold, or snow or whatever. Here it can be cold, but is usually pretty dry, so I just try to have a variety of layers to use depending on the temperature. If it's say, 40, I'll wear regular long tights and an UnderArmor Cold Gear shirt and maybe light gloves. Any colder and I'll add a lightweight running vest. I have a running jacket with a light liner and have found that it's too hot to wear until it's about 25 or colder, at which point I add a lightweight had and also a little warmer gloves, as well as warmer running tights. It will take some experimentation depending on whether you run hot or cold, but a good rule of thumb is to dress for what you would be comfortable in 20 degrees warmer if you were not exercising.

For running in the snow, I took a pair of shoes that were getting towards the end of their running life and made "screw shoes" with them, and also semi-waterproofed the mesh parts by spraying them with a couple coats of truck bed liner from a spray can. These are very effective for any icy conditions except when we had an ice storm that left half an inch of solid ice over everything. I do cut my mileage when running in fresh snow though, because it's more work!
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I've been running for over three years now and have a few 5Ks under my belt, so now I'm thinking about doing a 10K and half-marathon next year. In the past during the winter, I would run on the treadmill. This year, however, I have decided that I'd like to keep running outdoors as much as I can. There are several reasons for this:

1. My treadmill is old, and the display has gone out, so I don't use it anymore because I don't know how fast or or how far I'm running. Unfortunately, a new treadmill is not in our budget right now.

2. We have a black lab puppy and she goes on a run or walk with me every day when I get home from work. She EXPECTS this. She won't accept the explanation "it's too cold" or "it's too wet". And I can't resist those sad puppy eyes! LOL

3. Last winter, I really built up my running mileage, but when spring came, the transition to running outdoors was really difficult and it took weeks to get used to running outside. I don't want to have to deal with that difficult transition again.

That being said, I need advice for running outdoors. I have a pair of running tights, two lightweight Under Armour jackets, and two pairs of lined, waterproof sweat pants. I'm planning on buying some knit caps, knit gloves, and a head light this weekend. Is there any other gear that you would recommend?

Also, what is your cut-off point for running in cold temperatures? Is there a point where it's too cold to run because it's dangerous? Also, how do you deal with snowy, icy sidewalks/roads?

I'm really excited, but also a bit nervous. I just want to be as prepared as possible, so any advice would be appreciated! Thanks!

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