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9/29/13 8:16 A

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I am just like you. I had 4 children in less than 7 years and after #4 was born I was so gung ho to get back into racing shape. It worked, I placed 2nd in my 1st race back in 2008, then spent most of 2009 hurt. Made the same mistake coming back from inury in 2010 and was injured again by 2011. After a continuous string of injuries, I have learned my lesson. For people like us, I highly recommend Phil Maffetone's Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing. Very informative and helped have a better understanding of importance of slower running. Good luck with the half.

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9/25/13 8:31 A

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Thanks all. I have decided to take it easy-ish. One of my flaws is that I have a very hard time doing anything by halves. Or what I think of as halves. I *know* that doing shorter runs is better right now and that going in undertrained is better than going in over trained. But, I've always struggled with shorter distances. I don't even like doing 5ks because getting sweaty for anything less than an hour doesn't seem "worth it" to me. And I know I'm wrong, but my heart loves long runs and I've always been prone to over training, because I add too much mileage too quickly.

So, I'm going to take it easier than I would if I weren't fearing injury. I will keep my distances to under 7 (3x around the lake!) and just see where I feel good.

Thanks again. I just needed to HEAR it.

Imperfection is important. If we were all perfect, then there would be no such thing as growth, and everyone would be extremely boring, which is, paradoxically, not that perfect.-- Dr. Matt

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9/24/13 11:43 P

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I'm going to join with the others and say that jumping into 15 miles is a little ambitious.

Start by doing what is necessary, then do what is possible and suddenly you will be doing the impossible -- St Francis of Assisi

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9/24/13 9:08 P

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I agree with the others: 15 seems too long at this point. There's not a lot to gain from a physical standpoint. I'd taper. Give yourself time to heal.
Good luck!

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9/24/13 1:37 P

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Take it easy. It's wayyy better to go into a race undertrained than overtrained.

I'm doing basically the same thing you're doing. I've had screwed up legs all year! In late November it was hip flexor, put me out until mid-March. Then in late May I fractured my tibial plateau and tore my meniscus. I had surgery finally Aug. 23rd. I have a HM 10/13, and I'm trying to get in some mileage so it won't totally suck. I ran 9.22 miles this past Sunday, and I plan at least 10 this weekend. My mileage during the week is low, with a lot of cross training. I figure it will probably take me 2 1/2 hours. My daughter and I will run it together, and we'll stop and take pictures and just have fun. It's a beautiful race, and the sun coming up over the horse farms is absolutely stunning!

She woke up one morning and threw away all her excuses...
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9/24/13 1:32 P

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If you are already overtrained, running long isn't going to help you. Triathlon coach Joe Friel has said it's better to be slightly undertrained, than overtrained. I agree in keeping shorter runs. If you want to do some distance I would aqua jog, it is still hard if done right but at least keeps impact off the joints/muscles and you can stop when tired versus being out in the middle of nowhere.

Edited to include: I just also saw that you said your marathon is in 2.5 weeks and you have 10 days before you taper. Esp in your circumstances, you really should already be in taper, and not running long. You said you already know you can walk it in X amount of time so I would not worry about running long given you already know you can finish it.

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9/24/13 1:17 P

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Just my opinion, but I think trying to run a 15 mile run at this point in your training is far more detrimental to your training than doing some nice easy shorter runs--you won't gain any more fitness running a really super long run, than you would doing a shorter run--as the saying goes, you cannot make up for lost training, you can only start where you are and do your best.

I wish you well on your marathon.

Nancy

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9/24/13 1:13 P

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So, my training for my marathon this summer got all messed up. I knew it was going to be massively tricky and it was. I finally got a clean bill of health to train fully again, and went from my doctor prescribed 2 miles-only runs, back to full 10-15 milers over night, stupid of me, I know. Well, last week, while still 4 miles from home, my legs just quit. They were like, "what the hell lady! We're not gonna take this!" And they just plain old quit.

I took several days off, have taken a few walks about town with the tot in tow, but nothing strenuous. My marathon is in 2.5 weeks, and I'm not going to set any records, just to complete it in under 7 hours. (Because I can comfortably and super easily walk that pace!).

My first run in a week is scheduled for tomorrow. I've got child care and time! So, do I go for what would have been a 15 mile run or take it fairly easy? I will get 4-6 chances to run in the next 10 days before I taper.

What would you do?

I'm kind of thinking something like this...
Wednesday: 6-7 miles
Saturday: 10 miles
Tuesday: 6 miles
Thursday: 12-14 miles
Saturday: get out and move for 4 hours and see what mileage I can cover.

Then start a week of taper before the 12th

I know none of this gets me close to the 22 miles I was trying to hit prior to my marathon, and I'm going to have to walk a bunch of the marathon to complete it... But, I wanted to ask if is is reasonable, or if I should just run 4-7 miles the next 2 weeks and then just take the marathon as it comes, expecting that based on my condition I will likely need to walk half of it or more?


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