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6/16/13 4:02 P

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Thanks for the information. That will be really helpful.

Orzo gets more attention than Cassie when they are where they can see each other. He just tells her she has to go back in her crate. They are doing pretty well now, though if she ends up walking the wrong way past him to where he feels threatened, he will lash out.

Orzo will sleep most anywhere he feels comfortable (not the little kitty bed we brought home with him, though), so it might be hard to get him farther away from what he used to scratch on, so I will try the aluminum foil or sticky paws. He doesn't scratch on the bed where he will go sleep when I am not home or sitting in my chair and I think my hollering is getting him to stop on the chairs. If I get the fake leather chair cleared off there might be a problem because my old cat used to scratch on it though.

When I said he only wants fish, I am talking about fish cat food. Id probably be more likely to give him sardines than tuna, but would do a lot of research first. I don't want to hurt my little boy.

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6/16/13 9:19 A

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Hi- I've had many cats over the years - had my first kitten when I was about a year old - and have had several rescue cats that moved in with me uninvited, so I've seen all sorts of behaviour, and hope I can suggest a few things to help you.

when you say Orzo is 'scratching his teeth' this sounds like he is scent marking. Cats have scent glands around their mouths that they will rub on places like doorframes - he might even do it on you. He is simply leaving a marker that this is his territory. He is obviously jealous of your dog, which could explain other bad behaviour like furniture scratching. If you make a fuss of the dog, you must then fuss Orzo so he sees you are not leaving him out. Try using the same brush to brush them both & they will get used to one anothers scent

I've read that cats will scratch furniture close to where they sleep. My old cat started doing this, so I moved her basket away from the chair, she scratched, and also placed a small table against the arm she scratched, so that she could not get at it. She soon got bored and stopped. Covering scratching places with some kitchen foil also works (but looks a little odd to visitors!) Her usual scratching place outside is an old wooden gatepost that she can really get her claws into!

Jumping up on furniture and knocking things over is also attention seeking. Again- I had a cat who used to jump up on my dresser & whack his tail against all the teacups if I ignored him! When Orzo does this, pick him up and place him on the floor, and say 'No!' firmly. At the moment, he thinks he is the boss. You must be more assertive. What others have said about saying 'ow' and then ignoring him if he scratches you is also good advice.

As a rescue cat, he is probably not used to being treated well, and is simply sticking up for himself. Once he sees he is safe, he will calm down. Give him time. Pet him, but don't overdo it, and if he lashes out, stop & ignore him for a while. Cats hate to be ignored!

Oh- and one last thing- PLEASE- DO NOT give him tuna!!! Cats digestive systems cannot cope with it and it will make him ill. Even though cats seem to love it, and a tiny bit as a treat now & then is probably ok- tuna is not good for them. (Search online if you don't believe me!!)
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6/13/13 6:53 P

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Thanks. I will try that.

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6/13/13 6:38 P

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LOL - Yes, that's him - Jackson Galaxy, with all the tattoos and looks like a druggy! I really had to get by the appearances to be able to see he really knew his cats!

It sounds like you know what you're doing with Orzo and Cassie and trying all you can. I think if they're not started really young on the nail clipping it can be a real challenge. You know, you might want to check out Jackson's website - he's got tips on the site. Here's the website: www.Jacksongalaxy.com/

Good luck and keep us all posted on your progress.

Edited by: LOUIE-LILY at: 6/13/2013 (18:38)
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Oh, I think I did see something on My Cat from Hell one time recently. He has a lot of tattoos and looks like a druggy, right? I think that he was in town one day and was on the news.

Orzo's food is grain-free right now. I also had bought him grain-free when I got him, but it was seafood flavored and he liked it. Usually I get food from one of those little Mom & Pop stores and it is cheaper than Petsmart and Petco. The store that my friend got her dog food from a couple weeks ago is larger, but is also less expensive. She got my dog some food there and Orzo a cat grass plant.

It would be really easy to clip Orzo's nails if he'd hold still. He has the really light nails, so I can easily see where the quik is. I wish Cassie's would be that easy. With her I am using a Dremel. At least I am when Orzo allows it. He attacked me the last time I did her nails.

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6/13/13 3:22 P

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I'm glad if Orzo is eating a bit more. They put grains and fillers in their food because it's cheaper than putting quality ingredients in. There a number of grain free products out there - just stop in to any Petsmart to see the choices, but be prepared - they are expensive. I give mine Blue Sensitive for dried food so I can leave it out all day as I'm at work for 8-10 hours. Louie is doing pretty well on it.

The canned food is another story. It can be as high as $2/can - that's $48 for a case and I just can't afford it. Petsmart has their own high quality brand that is grain free and not as expensive. Louie ate it too quickly and of course, couldn't hold it down. I'll have to ration it out and see how they do. As for nail clipping - I use a people nail clipper. I make sure to just clip the very tips. Any lower and you could hit the vein and that will bleed and hurt them. It's only Lily that has nails. Louie was declawed before I got him and he's all messed up from it!

My Cat from Hell is great - you can get learn lots from him. He's the Cat version of the Dog Whisperer ;) Good luck!

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6/12/13 1:41 P

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I've never seen that show.

My friend comes over and clips Orzo's Claws. She has a special clippers for cat claws. It takes two of us to do that and even that is getting hard. I don't think that the back ones would get trimmed on an Emory board type of scratching post and they need it a lot. We had him totally wrapped up in a towel last week to clip his claws and he got out about 4 times. We also tried scruffing him, which didn't work.

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6/12/13 12:43 P

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I didn't see this post until today. My cat likes to scratch on a yoga mat, which is fine with me, because it's cheaper than replacing furniture.

Have you ever seen the show My Cat From Hell? I watched it on vacation and it gave me some good ideas for my cat…some ideas are pretty ridiculous and they are long shots (makes for a good show to figure out the problem after just two visits).

My sister is firm believe in clipping cat's claws that are indoor. She is a cat rescuer and she knows how to do it so it doesn't harm the cat. I just don't trust myself to do it though. She mentioned to me to make a scratching post myself with wood and carpet. Haven't done it though yet.

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3/24/13 11:56 P

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Orzo is now getting on the tables (mostly the coffee table next to me) and now knocking things off and drinking my water and even my tea. He never did that before. Is it common for them to do that? He also wants to use my chairs for scratching posts suddenly and he didn't before. I put his scratching post up against the wall because my friend said cats prefer to stand up to use their scratching posts.

Does anyone know what all can abe used for scratching posts? A friend suggested to just get a log and a flat base to put it on. She said I didn't need anything on the log. She had a cat who just used a tree trunk for a scratching post.

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3/11/13 4:34 P

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Thanks. Cassie isn't all excited around the cat or attacking him. He does like to attack her, though. And he will get in my lap and just stare at her when she is lying by my feet.

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3/11/13 2:40 P

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It takes time. My mom has a new rescue dog, and he's not good with the cat, so the cat has retreated upstairs (she used to be an indoor/outdoor cat. They live in the country.) I'm hoping that the dog will calm down and that the cat will give him a chance, but I told my mom not to force it.

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3/11/13 2:26 P

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He won't eat the food if it is wet.

He is happy now other than not wanting a dog in the house. He would have gone somewhere else if they hadn't said he seemed to want to be with the dogs because I knew I would eventually get another dog, too. But they are somewhat getting better. I think he is going to learn not to go after the dog. She seldom goes after him and has never tried to actually attack him.

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You might want to have him checked by the vet again. Maybe his mouth hurts. It might not necessarily be his teeth/gums, either. I think it would be worth checking out.

I was going to suggest softening the food he DOES like with warm water.

Good luck!
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3/10/13 4:36 P

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His mouth was checked about a week after I got him. He has been scratching like that pretty much ever since then. When I got him he wouldn't chew anything and now he is chewing the new food okay. Of course, I just looked at the new food and it is almost all grain and costs as much as the BG I had him eating last time. I am going to look for a grain-free that has about the same size next time. I don't understand why a cat food would be almost all grain.


Now, if I can get him to let me sleep after 4 a.m. He decides then is the time to start getting in my face for loving every day and will not stop at all.

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3/10/13 2:56 P

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Glad you found a food he will eat. I'm not sure about the teeth chewing or scratching. Wonder if his teeth ache? I'm sure you've had them checked by the vet recently just in case there's another problem starting. You know how babies will chew on things if their gums hurt?

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I didn't try baby food. I got some Nutro Indoor Cat food that he just started and he is actually chewing it and doesn't seem to be having any problems now.

I am wondering one thing. He is always scratching his teeth on the door or sometimes tries to on my computer. Is that just a way of cleaning his teeth?

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Have you tried baby food? Our vet suggested it to us. You can soften other food even more with some baby food mixed in. Sorry for Orzo.

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His mouth seems okay now. He is missing 5 teeth from before I got him, though.

I haven't been able to find any semi-soft food for him anywhere. I did get him a couple small cans, but then gave him a little of the stuff the vet gave me (canned) and he does not like canned food. My last cat didn't either. I gave her some special for Christmas one year and she spit it out.

Orzo hasn't bit me anymore or clawed me. He does still go after the dog though, and he will stare at her to get her to move so he has an excuse. Usually she just watches him back. He will jump her if she walks past him.

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3/6/13 8:26 A

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I'm sorry Orzo hurt his mouth. I would check places like Wal Mart or Pet Smart for semi-soft cat food. Mine love to eat tuna too.

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Anything to do with the mouth I would have checked by the vet. There is only the semi soft pouches. Try chicken baby food too.Like for juniors maybe.

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Apparently Orzo hurt his mouth instead of a paw the other day when I was gone and he hasn't been eating. I opened a can of food that the vet gave me right after I got him (he never would eat much of those cans) and he got really excited. I gave him a teaspoon full and he excitedly got up to eat and pushed the canned food aside and ate some of his regular food. Is there a semi-soft food that wouldn't cost much that he could eat until his mouth doesn't bother him? I know they used to have pouches, but that was before I went off to college that I knew about them. I haven't seen them since.

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I would have Orzo checked out by the vet. He could have something medical going on. A change in personality can sometimes be a clue that he's not feeling well. Also, ar there any cats around the house? Any stress inside the house or any changes at all you can think of?

I know you know to put antibiotic on the cat bite or if it gets red around it go to your Dr. or a clinic. Cat bites are not fun.

Keep us posted please.

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I don't know what is going on with Orzo, but I just went to set my phone down and he hissed, struck at me and bit me. I mean an actual bite, not a love bite. This is the second time he has attacked me in the past 3 days. Cassie wasn't all that close to him and wasn't doing anything. He has been getting nasty at her again, too, when they were doing so good. What do I do? My arm hurts now.

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