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I would not, unless it is a health resin or sever aggression to the other cats. THen I would try keeping the claws cut very short, then maybe nail caps. Declaw is basically amputation of the first join of the toe. and has it own possible poor outcomes.

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I came to this link, but I wanted to read which way members are leaning. I think declawing is wrong. I wouldn't do it to my cat and I'm sorry that the cat we had as a kid was declawed but she came to us from a shelter. It never bothered her, it just seemed wrong. And, we are paying for our cat not being declawed, the carpet has some tears and one of the curtains is clearly marked but if our baby gets declawed (she won't) something is going to go too. It was a nasty threat, but hey, it's not natural for cats to be declawed. And if a man has a problem with that, then perhaps...well, he shouldn't live with a cat.

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Personally, I would not put my cat through this proceedure unless necessary. If the situation warranted I would do what worked best.

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I have had both. My first cat I had declawed and spayed at the same time. The vet used a laser so there were no bloody bandages. She was fine the next day. She can walk and run just fine. She was always cranky so no behavioral changes. She still has her back claws so she can still jump and climb just not the same as before. She also has no problem defending herself with the back claws. She is still living a happy healthy life with my parents at 11yrs old.
The boys I have now are not declawed because when I adopted them together one was already neutered. I didn't want to put him through an additional surgery that wasn't absolutely necessary. I also didn't feel it was right to declaw one and not the other.
I am neutral on the subject and feel as though each parent should make there own decisions based on their life and their situation.
I would also like to point out that sometimes it is necessary to get a cat declawed. A friend of mine who lives in Canada where it isn't legal was told she couldn't get her cats back until she got them declawed because one of them scratched her by accident and gave her blood poisoning.
Cats with claws can scratch by accident or on purpose and since they don't have the luxury of using toiletpaper their paws and claws come in direct contact with their own waste. That can result in a parent becoming deathly ill.
I would advise anyone to do their research and make a thought out decision before doing anything.

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I can't stand it when I hear of people declawing their cats! I never have done it and will never do it. Like any pet, I tell people to get the house/apartment cat-ready and that way they can enjoy their pet and not declaw.

I adopted my cat, Baby, from the SPCA already declawed and when I look at his paws, it breaks my heart!! They look so flat and deformed. emoticon
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Actually, it would be more accurate to say "How would we like to have our fingers cut off to the first knuckle?" ;)

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I'm sure too late for the initial question here. I adopted 2 cats they were like 3 months old at the time. We have 2 birds a miniature yellow collard macaw and a jardin parrot..and we contemplated declawing for awhile and at 5 months we decided we had not choice, what a horrible thing to do to a cat. If I did not have these birds that are out of their cages a lot I wouldn't have done it..not to protect furniture, etc. If I was to adopt these rescue cats I had no choice. They are natural hunters and if not wanting to hunt, they would love to get the birds to play with which won't work...

So I guess you can see it has been 11 months later and I still feel horrible that we did it.

I keep thinking, would we like our nails taken away, it was so painful to watch them suffer, just so painful :(

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I highly recommend "Kitty Caps." My family kitty growing up was declawed and she was perfectly fine and happy, but I couldn't bring myself to do it to my kitty because of internet horror stories. My solution has been Kitty Caps. You just slip them over their claws and glue them on and it takes away their scratching power while letting them keep at little more balance and stability (plus their knuckles!)

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That's exactly how I trained my kitty with her scratching post! If I ever get the room, I'll get a cat tree, but she's usually been happy with window sills.

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We made a cat post for Bianca before we brought her home, and then invested in a 5 foot carpeted 'tree' with various levels once she started to get bigger. We made it clear that she was to scratch there by rubbing her paws against it (imitating her scratching) and whenever she scratched elsewhere, picked her up and took her to the tree. and then praising her when she scratched the tree. she learned in a couple of days that it was hers and has never damaged any of our curtains or furniture. One of the best investments you can make, imo, if you are going to have a cat. Besides a place to scratch, it offers additional exciting perspectives of the living room if your cat is indoors!

I also make a point of trimming her claws about once a month (even with a scratching tree they grow fast). it's always a pleasant experience and she gets treats. and is necessary because sometimes the claws come out by mistake if she's frightened or getting a bit too into playtime. the first few times I trimmed her I got my hubby to hold her and I always make sure she can see what I'm doing.

Anyway, declawing is not for me. I am happy and Bianca is happy with a tree and regular trimming. Besides, we do sometimes let her out on the patio or 'cat-sit' the inlaws' indoor/outdoor cat - so feel she might need to protect herself one day.

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my old black tom was declawed and he got infected (in his paws and lungs /nose) and he nearly died and he was still young so NO its not a good thing to do. My old orange tom only used the scratching post so it didn't matter. javascript:void(0)

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"My cat from Hell" is holding auditions.....

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I have had both. The cats I was owned by were not declawed & ok, however, the cat now (b/f had him prior), he aggressively attacks him. He has drawn blood, chased him down the hall, attacked guests & band members when they walked in the door. Not to mention damage to furniture, amps & equipment. He is exclusively an indoor cat. The vet did a laser treatment, no infections, he didn't cry or exhibit any discomfort. I can't say if he wasn't our crazy attack cat he would still have them but he is so we feel we made the right choice

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I have had both. The cats I was owned by were not declawed & ok, however, the cat now (b/f had him prior), he aggressively attacks him. He has drawn blood, chased him down the hall, attacked guests & band members when they walked in the door. Not to mention damage to furniture, amps & equipment. He is exclusively an indoor cat. The vet did a laser treatment, no infections, he didn't cry or exhibit any discomfort. I can't say if he wasn't our crazy attack cat he would still have them but he is so we feel we made the right choice

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I'm going to chime in against declawing as well, but my experience is a little different. I've had my cat for 12 years. She is 13. Rather than declaw, the vet did a tendonectomy - they cut her tendons so she can't extend her claws, but she still has them. They don't this anymore for a very good reason. I would never recommend this either.

She still uses a scratching post and I've been through several. However, they grow very thick and I can't trim them and since she can't extend them she has a hard time keeping them groomed. If they aren't trimmed, they'll grow into her pad. So, every 3-4 months we go to the vet for a pedicure. I can trim her back ones if need be and her dew claws. She's not happy, but I've gotten it down.

However, this experience has taught that I wouldn't declaw either. I think it would be easier to trim them myself. I'm lucky, she doesn't climb. However, she did do things I wasn't happy with. A water bottle is invaluable. After a while, just picking up the water bottle gets the message across.

Even though she was a little over a year old when I got here, it was fairly easy to train her to use the scratching post. When ever she wanted to scratch somewhere I didn't want her to, I picked her and took her to the scratching post and put her claws on it and scratched and then praised her mightily. I still praise her. For the furniture - there's Sticky Paws. A clear, double sided tape that you put on furniture. They don't like scratching something they stick to.

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Please please please don't declaw them. This is actually illegal in the UK where I live and with good reason. It's not the claw that's removed, it's the whole toe, and as cats walk on their toes your cats will never be able to walk properly again!

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I have two adult cats with there claws. I handled there paws a lot when I got them. To get used to them being touched. My one cat is nine yrs and she minds sometimes when I trim her claws. The other acts the same way. They have never bit me while I was trimming them. They have growled and hissed. I just make sure I am calm when I do it. Check out any info you can about trimming your own cats claws. It's not hard to do.

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One poster mentioned those 'soft claws' caps. I thought about getting some of those, but I was afraid that I would have a heck of a time getting them on my cats (kind of like getting socks and shoes on a squirming toddler!). Do cats not mind them? Mine go crazy if they get a little piece of tape on a toe.

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Again, watch the video I posted! Jackson is an animal behavior expert! And there are MANY experts who agree that cats should NOT be declawed. As for your cat clawing you, again, I would have gone to a behaviorist or tried EVERYTHING before declawing. Not to promote "My cat from hell", but my dad LOVES Animal Planet & I stay with him on Saturdays, one weekend they had a "My cat from Hell" marathon, though my girls are really well behaved, I still learned a lot from watching this show, things that I never even thought of! I think all to often we, myself included, get a pet, but don't put in the time to learn to take care of them or about thier specific needs, we think if we give the a literbox, food & some toys, they will be fine & other than that we just wing it! Different breeds of cats have different temperments, cats from shelters usually come with special needs.
I'm not saying that death is BETTER than declawing, anymore than someone would say that death is better than amputating a leg of a human (and amputation IS what declawing is). But, be real, there ARE steps that you can take to prevent scratching of furnature, drapes & bodies!
As for spay/neuter question, there are alot of benefits to it! And your comparison to women having hysterectomies: actually, for awhile, I'm not sure if they still do this, women with a certain gen or genetically predisposed to breast cancer WERE having masectomies! But, that is a silly analogy, because I haven't met anyone who has thier animal altered JUST for that reason! Again, to reduce unwanted liters, to prevent behavior problems (an unaltered animal will "mark", far worse than scratching furnature!) & YES to lower the risk of cancer & some diseases!
But, IF you want to declaw your cat, go for it, unfortunately, it is legal & obviously, some people think acceptable!

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While everyone assumes that people declaw to save furniture, for me, it was actually about saving me. In the time I had Piglet before I got her declawed, yes, she would climb the curtains (which I think is dangerous), shred the carpet in my rental house, and make her own improvements to our furniture, but she shredded ME too. 12 years later, I still have scars on my back, lap, and hands from when she climbed up the back of my shirt to sit on my shoulder or sprung from my lap or played too rough. Scratches that bled and got infected. Clipped claws are still sharp.

And I think cat hoarders are going to hoard regardless of whether everyone else neuters their cat.

Are you sure your cat has arthritis because of being declawed? Cats get arthritis even with claws. And people get arthritis too. I'm not sure we can call this a cause and effect.

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They will grow out of that phase eventually. Just take the curtains down until they are a little older. My mother had my cat declawed and she is now 13 and having various health issues. She has arthritis that she was taking medication for, she has problems using the litterbox, she is grumpy all the time from pain. It's really better to cat proof your home... also, if you get their nails trimmed they shouldn't be able to climb anything. I took my other cat to get her nails trimmed and as soon as she got home she tried climbing up the screen and she couldn't get a grip. She was really confused. They also sell "soft paws" or "cat caps" they are a plastic thing that goes over their claws and they come in a bunch of different colors.

And the whole spay/neuter debate, it isn't really about cancer, it's about the fact that there are millions of cats being put down everyday because people aren't responsible enough to either keep kitty indoors or get them fixed. I got one of my cats from somebody who had three cats and they all had kittens at once. My cat was one of 20. Their cats keep getting pregnant, they keep some of the kittens, then the kittens get pregnant... they are hoarders.

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Declawing is mutilation. it is cruel, and the effects can linger for the life of the cat, including things like emotional/behavior problems and permanent sensitivity/pain in the paws. Not to mention that, if the cat somehow gets out, defending itself or climbing away from danger will be more difficult, if not impossible.

Spay/neuter prevents unwanted cats. It keeps feral populations down, and it also prevents potentially thousands of cats being killed in shelters. We no longer live in a world where we can "leave animals to do what is natural."

There is a huge difference between spay/neuter and declawing.

I'd suggest that if your furniture--which IS replaceable, BTW--is that important to you, perhaps your home is not appropriate for pets.

You have been given a lot of wonderful suggestions here. I hope you will consider the options.

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I don't deny that neutered cats have a lower chance of cancer. Awesome. I am saying that if anyone says that they put their cat through neutering to prevent them from getting cancer, they are lying. Straight up. Women could all have hysterectomies and not have to worry about getting ovarian or uterine cancer, but we aren't about to start doing that. In fact, we could just put everyone on birth control because that also reduces chances of cancer and is less evasive, but we don't do that either.

And my 2 cats are from shelters that would have killed them within the week that I adopted them, so if you really think that they are better dead than having been declawed and a couple of days of sore feet, that is just sad for you. I did have my cats declawed and I know how long it took them to recover. Now we all get to have a happy life together. I have no doubt they would tell you that it's worth it.

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_7oTlocGSw

Also, I knew a woman who was a Vet Tech, cats that haven't been spayed/neutered have a HIGHER risk of certain cancers!

If your STUFF is more important that the cat....give the cat to a loving home!

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No, I dont' think that's true. People don't do it to reduce the risk of cancer. That may be a benefit, but it isn't a reason. And while overpopulation is a valid reason, we neuter our indoor cats because we don't want to deal with the consequences of not doing so...including the possibility of kittens if our cat gets out.

My point is...that hurts a cat way more than a declawing, at least a girl cat. If it's all about hurting the cat, we'd deal with the consequences of an unneutered cat. Anything we do, be it neutering or declawing is so we can live with the cat and give them a good life, because we love them.

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Spaying is healthier for the cat and will reduce the risk of certain kinds of cancers not to mention the overpopulation problem.

Declawing is only done for the owners and has no medical benefit for the cat.

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Why doesn't anyone ever say it's cruel to spay a cat. Never never spay a cat? Is that less cruel than declawing? I think it's worse. But we do it.

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NEVER, EVER, for ANY REASON declaw a cat! It is cruel, causes behavior & health problems. If you love your cat you will find other methods of controlling them. Look up Jackson Galaxy's website, of " my cat from hell" he has training ideas & TRUE info on what happens to a declawed cat!

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I am definitely against declawing I use the water bottle as a deterrent when they were climbing-- they rarely scratch us now and are very gentle.. give them stuff to scratch like scratching posts made of sisal, carpet or they love the cardboard scratchers

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I'm in the "anti" camp. My parents insisted we get my cats declawed when I was in high school and it was horrible. They couldn't walk for a week. We had to carry them around everywhere. It was pretty sad. I've had 6 cats since without declawing and still have (mostly) intact furniture. You really have to make sure they have lots of scratching posts (preferably vertical if they are climbers) and try to avoid furniture that is ridged or highly textured that might tempt them to destroy. I don't have curtains, so don't really know how to discourage that.

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I had my first cat declawed, and she lived a long and happy life with no ill-effects. I remembered her being a little wobbly when she came home from the vet, but the next day she was fine. She was strictly indoor.

However, before I got the cats I have now, I had done some reading on declawing and now consider it to be unnecessary surgery. I train my cats best I can, and understand that they are going to tear up things occasionally.

Like NEELOJ said, it's their house, too. LOL!

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I didn't want to declaw my two kittens.
I read an article about kitty protecting your house.
I temporarily took my curtains down and just left a ruffle across the top
I tied up electric cords. Put the toilet paper in the cupboard by the toilet.
Cleared off the bottom couple of shelves of the book shelves of things they could break.
I also have an old recliner chair and it is "their" chair.
The spread on the bed is one they can play on and I put another old spread over my divan.

The article said that if you have indoor cats, it is their home too. LOL
Cat proof your home for them.

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I have declawed every cat I've had. They get to have a great life as a pampered indoor cat for less than a week recovery time. I've always done it at the same time as I spayed or neutered them, so only surgery at one time, only one recovery time. I don't know how anyone can think it's worse than spaying a cat, but that is common practice. I've had my appendix out and that was tough.

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Please, Please don't declaw your kittens. It is the removal of the first joint on their paws. I was a vet tech, I saw this horrible operation. I saw the aftermath. Kittens in cages waving bloody bandages around, unable to use their front legs because of the pain.
Get or make a good sturdy cat tree, rub it with cat nip. Try to get the tallest tree you can afford. Cats like to be up high. Play with them before you go to bed, wear them out so they sleep. Go to Jackson Galaxy's blog, he has lots of info on keeping you and your kittens sane. They won't be this young forever, don't make a decision that effects them forever!
I'm begging you, don't declaw. It is illegal in many european countries.
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Kittens can be crazy animals! But, it is only temporary. Eventually they grow up and calm down. Sooooo, in the meantime don't give them free reign of your home. They are not responsible enough yet to handle it. Restrict them to a bedroom or the bathroom when you are not available to monitor them. When you are there and they are out, calmly and consistently teach them what is off limits. Say no, clap your hands and remove them from the curtains, or counter-tops. Then give them something that they CAN play with.

What I'm talking about is providing them with furniture that they can tear up with no consequences...these are usually referred to as cat condos or cat trees. These are tall and carpet covered. Kittens and cats love to climb up by sinking in their claws! With one or two good sized cat condos around, the kittens are less likely to climb on other things. And remember, it is in their nature to climb!

You may be able to find these used on Craigslist...I have! Much more affordable than trying to buy them new.

I'm a firm believer that cats should not be declawed. Provide them what they need (acceptable objects to climb and play on) teach them what is okay and what isn't, restrict them if you are not there to supervise until they mature and have learned all the lessons.

Raising kittens is a lot like raising children. Much work when they are little, but they do grow up quickly!

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My mom had hers done and has regretted it ever since. It took weeks for her cats to recover. Do some research into what exactly the surgery consists of. From what I understand the vet bascially has to remove part of the toe.


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I have two calico kittens and they have so much energy that they climb everything. They have climbed on the windows,shower curtain etc. This morning I woke up to no curtains on my living room windows. My mother said to dewclaw them but I've heard so many terrible stories that it's a little scary. Anybody have any advice on what I should do

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