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SHARAWNDA's Photo SHARAWNDA Posts: 54
2/20/08 12:21 P

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Thanks for the advice. It's nice to know I am not the only one who pumps exclusively. I will try to get more water in...I know that is key.

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2/20/08 10:10 A

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Ok. I'm an exclusive pumper. I always have been. I have tremendous amounts of milk and have lots all baby weight plus 20lbs and still going.

I do not pump at night even though baby feeds 1-2 times a night. I just pump often durring the day. I also use a hand held manual pump. You can do this.

Since your supply has gone down start taking fenugreek. Take 3pills 3 times a day. Pump every 2 hours. Drink about 12 glasses of water and you'll have a huge jump in your milk in abuot 3 days. Its totally possible and you most importantly have to stop stressing about it. I started stressing out about comming back to work and my supply tanked too. I relaxed and pumped a little more frequently than before and zoom it went back up. Do those few simple things and you'll see a huge difference. I promise. If you need more help or advise contact me. This is my second rodeo so I have a few more tips and tricks up my sleeve. :)

Good luck honey!

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2/18/08 4:29 P

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It was hard 4 me 2 puimp @ 1st.

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2/17/08 5:09 P

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Okay, I guess I should change my wording from it "hurting" to being tender for a week or two in the beginning. And that is just what I was told by the nurses in the hospital because I wanted to give up because it was so "tender". It is something completely new to your body and it takes a few weeks to "toughen up" the nipple.

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2/17/08 1:16 A

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I had to pump exclusively for the first two weeks after my most recent baby was born because he was in the NICU and couldn't nurse. I have now nursed three babies. To maintain a good supply while pumping you need to do it atleast every 3 hours/24 hours a day. You also need to be drinking a TON of water (way more than 64 oz a day; try to get in 80-100 oz)
Also, I will say that bfing never ever hurt me with any of my kids. I highly recommend you find a good lactation consultant. Ask your pediatrician for recommendations or go to the la leche league website and find someone. Honestly, you probably won't be able to exclusively pump for very long. Your body just knows it's not the baby and won't do as well. If it's at all possible you should try to direct nurse. Have you tried nursing shields? They might be really beneficial for you. It takes some dedication but I promise it's worth it.
BTW, this is all coming from someone who said she would NEVER ever nurse. I was completely against it until I had my first son and decided to try it. I'm so glad I did.

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2/17/08 12:21 A

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BREASTFEEDING SHOULD NEVER BE PAINFUL. Call a lactation consultant and have her watch you nurse. She should be able to see what's wrong. It's important to find a consultant with whom you're comfortable.

That said, I had to start pumping exclusively because of an intra-ductal yeast infection, so I have some tips that helped me.

I take fenugreek and blessed thistle because I can't pump enough otherwise. This has tripled the amount I can get. There is a product you can get that has both and a couple of others that I just bought because I ran out of my supply: http://www.milksmile.com/product_info.php/
cPath/30_36/products_id/31 (but buying the ingredients separately is a little cheaper).

It's also important to have a pump that simulates the baby's motions. I have the Medela Pump 'n Style Advanced and it works great! I fed my daughter to satiety on my left side today and then got on the pump and got an additional 3 ounces plus 3 on the right!

Make sure you're pumping frequently enough. Now that my supply is established, I have to pump every 2-3 hours during the day or my supply drops. I try to pump at least as often as she eats during the day plus an extra session or two at night. If you are wanting to boost your supply, you should try to pump every 2 hours around the clock, but no less than 2-3 hours during the day and 3-4 at night. You'll probably be able to back off once your supply is established.

Also, it's better to pump more often for shorter periods than less often for longer. Just make sure you pump for 15 minutes to make sure you get enough hindmilk so that you don't have a gassy baby (speaking from experience).

Edited by: KTLASERS at: 2/17/2008 (00:30)
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2/17/08 12:13 A

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Like the others, I urge you to keep trying the baby on the breast! Pumping is good, but BFing is LEARNED, it takes several weeks for BOTH of you to get the hang of it. And yes, figure out a way to make it relaxing. I subscribed to some mediation podcasts and used BFing time to meditate. Music is good. I even like to pull the boppy up to the computer and surf the web while I nurse (and pump). It's kind of like the old adage,
"A watched pot never boils."

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2/17/08 12:00 A

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Oh, and I forgot to mention...

MAKE SURE YOU DRINK YOUR WATER!!!! It is so important to stay hydrated. Also, make sure you are getting in your calories. Right now, just starting out, carbs are key. Later on you won't need as many carbs. But right now, your body and your baby need them.

And, whatever you do, DO NOT SUPPLEMENT. That is one less "meal" your body will think your baby needs and it will produce even less. You mentioned your baby is having problems latching on. Try to do it before she gets too hungry (or she'll be too upset). Offer the breast every two hours or so. If she takes it, great. If not, try the expressed milk in the bottle and try again next time. But, the more she gets used to the bottle, the harder it might be to get her to accept the breast. Try different positions.

I need to go take care of my little one now. Look into www.kellymom.com or I can find you some great links later. Good luck (again)

Edited by: MANDYC003 at: 2/17/2008 (00:03)
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2/16/08 11:57 P

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Jacquelyn: That it too funny!!!

I agree that a pump just can't do what a baby can. I really worried that my supply was decreasing because I was pumping less and less. My baby doesn't take a bottle at all (we only breastfeed), I was just pumping to freeze for later (cereal). Of course, when I started to realize my supply was getting lower (originally I could pump 8+ oz, then it got down to 1 oz), I had a nervous breakdown. I thought mine was because I wasn't getting in enough calories. I found that wasn't the case and I was actually making enough. Baby just had to get it out, instead of the pump. Now I pump before I feed and we don't have that problem at all (in fact, we usually have more than enough). Keep in mind that your body spends the first weeks/month or two getting to know how much it needs to make. Then it adjusts itself accordingly. You might go from being engorged for weeks to having saggy boobs all of the sudden. There are a few things you can do. There are a couple teas/herbs you can try (I'm not sure what because I didn't take that route). Before you pump, make sure you are relaxed. Either hold your LO or have a pic of her nearby. Listen to some relaxing music or waterfall or rainfall CDs. It helps with letdown amazingly! RELAX! Seriously. Relaxation is so important. Pump out what you can. Use hot packs for a few minutes and massage your breasts, then pump more. You can move the breast shield around so that it is suctioning different parts of the breast. Massage as you pump. If you are using a double pump, you will probably have more success. Also THE MORE YOU PUMP, THE MORE YOU MAKE. After the milk stops flowing, pump for an additional 5-20 minutes (preferably 20). Your mind will think "This 'baby' needs more so we better make more". Then try to pump every 2-3 hours, even at night. It will stimulate production. Use heat. A LOT of heat. Either warm packs or get a bowl of water as hot as you can tolerate and "dip" your chest into it. Keep your breasts downward so that gravity can create a "flow" of milk. Pump immediately afterward. Shower and keep the hot water directly on your breasts while you massage them. Pump immediately after getting out. DON'T WEAR A BRA if at all possible. I notice on nights I don't wear a bra (even after four months) I wake up soaked! When I do wear a bra (especially a tight one or a sports bra) I don't even leak.

I have lots of tips because I really read up before baby was born. I was DETERMINED to breastfeed! If you have any questions PLEASE send me a message. I want to help you succeed. What kind of pump do you have?

Also, I'm not going to tell you what to do, just offer a suggestion/my opinion...It is SOOOOO much easier to breastfeed than pump!!! If you can, get your baby to the breast. I KNOW it hurts. Every mommy hurts. If someone/anyone was to tell me that they didn't hurt at all, I would call them a liar or really really lucky. If you can take the pain for a week or two(it usuallu isn't longer than that), it will be so worth it. Use Lansinoh cream. It is truly a lifesaver!!! Breastfeeding isn't for everyone, but it is honestly easier than pumping. I was feeding my daughter just an hour ago and she was rubbing my belly as I was rubbing her back. I realized if I had quit when it was hard, I'd probably be missing out on those special bonding moments. And trust me, I really wanted to quit. If you can find support in your area, do so. I don't have access to anyone here, so I went to the nurses at the hospital where I delivered. I was there everyday, begging and crying for help. She wouldn't latch on. When she did, it hurt. I was engorged. ETC. Nursing was a nightmare in the beginning for us. Now it is the best thing. But you need to do what is best for you and your family.

Are you a member of babyfit? If so, they have a board over there specifically for breastfeeding moms and even one for moms exclusively pumping. You could check over there for more tips/ideas/suggestions/support/etc.

Here is one of the links:
BREASTFEEDING SUPPORT:
babyfit.sparkpeople.com/messageboard
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One other thing you could try is a breast/nipple sheild. A lot of mommies are against it because baby will grow dependant on having it, but it might help with the cracked/sore nipples.

Hope this helps and good luck. Again, send me a message any time. Don't give up! I'm routing for you!!!

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2/16/08 10:31 P

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I pumped (Hospital grade pump)exclusively for 10 weeks after my son was born because he refused to nurse. I ate oatmeal, drank a lot of water, prayed to have an overabundant milk supply. I realized today, that the soreness is completely gone. I used Lansinoh Lanolin ointment several times a day, especially after feeding or pumping. I also made these cookies:

Lactation Cookie Recipe
1 cup butter, softened
1 cup Splenda
˝ cup Splenda Brown Sugar substitute
4 TBS water
4 TBS flaxseed meal
2 large eggs
1 tsp vanilla
1 cup all purpose flour
1 cup Almond Meal – I got this at Trader Joe’s and it ups the protein and is all healthy & stuff
1 tsp baking soda
1 tsp salt
3 cups oatmeal, thick cut or at least old fashioned oats – no instant
1 cup or more chocolate chips – I use dark chocolate!! And I always use more ;)
4 TBS brewer’s yeast (be generous) – gotta get this stuff at the health food store

Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Mix together the flaxseed meal and the water, let sit for 5 minutes. Meanwhile, cream sugars and butter. Add eggs one at a time and mix well. Add flaxseed mixture and vanilla. Beat until blended. In a separate bowl mix all of the dry ingredients EXCEPT the oatmeal and chocolate chips. Slowly blend in to the batter. Stir in oatmeal. Stir in chocolate chips. Scoop or drop onto a cookie sheet or stoneware, I lined mine stone with parchment paper.

Bake 8-12 minutes, depending on size of cookies.

The original recipe said it serves 6 dozen. I must have done something really wrong. Mine made 2-3 dozen. I lost count because even the non lactators were eating them.

If you have trouble with other’s getting in your stash. Tell them that this recipe will make anyone, male or female, produce milk. Describe engorgement in detail!! Offer the use of your breast pump set on high suction! 


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Pumps just can't bring in a supply like babies can. There are a lot of exclusive pumpers, but it takes round the clock dedication for that. Soooooooooooo much easier to just nurse, especially if there's no significant problem. PLEASE visit www.kellymom.com for info on getting baby back to the breast. Good luck!

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2/16/08 8:27 P

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I have a three week old daughter that I have been feeding breast milk that I have been pumping and then placing in a bottle. Over the past week, my supply has gone down by almost half. I don't know if this is because I lost most of my water weight, as I have lost all by 3 pounds of my baby weight. I was pumping 5 ounces from both sides combined two weeks ago, and now I can barely get 3 ounces from both sides combined.

The reason I stopped directly nursing was that it was too painful, and the baby didn't seem to enjoy latching on. Did I make a huge mistake by doing this? Also, i wanted her father to be able to feed her at times when it was convenient.

WHAT CAN I DO TO BRING MY MILK SUPPLY BACK UP? She is very hungry, and I have had to supplement with formula just to satisfy her from crying. I am only pumping 15-19 ounces a day, but she eats at least 25 ounces a day....

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