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11/10/07 6:32 A

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Raynne413 - 5 years! That's great! I truly hope that I can continue on for five years and beyond in this "new normal" life, and see even more progress toward a healthy lifestyle. Right now, I'm trying a week without tracking food in detail to see how it goes.

Pat, I'm wondering if adding to your "calories burned" total also changed your calorie allowance? Praying for 100% for your arm!

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11/7/07 12:38 P

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ZELLAZM, you are so right with your "aha" moment. I think that is one reason why so many "diets" fail. It needs to be looked at as a lifestyle change and not just a diet. I think that is one reason why it's taken me so long to lose my weight. I've done it slowly by doing things that I can be happy doing for the rest of my life. I've learned how to order food out and still be healthy, as well as what restaurants have healthier choices, as well as ways to work sweets in (my MAJOR weakness - life isn't worth it without chocolate LOL). Sometimes it's much more difficult to do than others and I backtrack, but it's not an IMPOSSIBLE change. After 5 years, this is now "normal". Well, for ME anyway. emoticon

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11/6/07 4:34 P

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Thanks Zella. I can at least change the amount of calories burned...I've slowly been increaing those, more so now since I don't have to be hampered by that doggone phyical therapy. My fractured arm is at about 85%, so I can do more now.

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11/6/07 12:15 P

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Hi Pat,

When you enter changes on your goals (the date, the goal weight, or the number of calories you burn per week), you may get a new calorie range. Or not. It could be that you original range continues to be SP's recommendation for you at your present stage.

You can make changes to those factors on your SP start page on the lower left under "goals". As I understand it, SP won't change your weight automatically based only on the weigh-in option.

Hope that helps and all the best on your way down :)

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11/6/07 10:42 A

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I have not been on maintenance long, my issues had been portion control (and a boyfriend who liked to eat late, and I would nibble and have nibbled quite a bit before dinner time, so it was like having two dinners). I was exercising when I gained the weight, just eating more than I should. So I know I will be tracking for some time before I feel confindent enough not to track.

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In the beginning I think maintaining is harder than losing..it was for me. Those old habits still resurface even now because they are so ingrained...I have to stay focused and remind myself often to reinforce the new habits although they are coming more naturally over time.

I've almost completely stopped tracking on paper or computer but do it in my head all day. If I feel like I'm 'forgetting' or skipping stuff (lying to myself) then I start up for a couple of days just to get on track. There are days where I slip more than I intend but its gotten easier too...I've learned not to let the slip turn into a slide...one bad choice doesn't ruin a day, one bad day doesn't ruin the week. I agree it really is all about balance and staying mindful and focused.

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11/5/07 9:12 P

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That was a good 'aha' moment....this IS our new way of eating.

Btw, Zella, how do you get SP to set a calorie limit for you? Mine is still at the old one.

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10/22/07 4:55 P

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Thanks for all the good input here! It's great to hear that others have similar concerns. The Mindless Eating site does look interesting and I'll explore it when I get a chance.

I had a small "aha" moment today: occasionally I think, "when will I go back to eating normally." I realized that this is the NEW normal for me: planning and preparing my meals a day ahead, tracking calories, watching my ranges, etc. Even though I don't think I'll be tracking daily forever, I know it's a discipline that I'll be coming back to from time to time.

And that applies to exercise, too. I'm on day 222 of my exercise streak and I can hardly imagine a day without some kind of intentional exercise.

By the way, I'm down a pound from my goal weight today - lost the pound I gained on vacation and one more. So it looks like the calorie range SP has set for me is ok, and not too high like I thought it might be. I've just got to make sure that the added calories are good choices :)

Thanks again!



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10/21/07 9:30 P

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Thank..I'll try the spark search! emoticon

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10/21/07 1:50 P

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Don't know the url off hand, but if you google "mindless eating" it should be one of the first listed. (or do a "spark web search" and get points!)

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10/20/07 9:54 P

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Hi Kayotic,

That is the second time I've read about the book Mindless Rating today. Perhaps it is a sign I need to check out that website! Thanks for your post. Do you know the url for the site?

How are you? Have a great rest of the weekend.

Elayne

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10/20/07 2:23 P

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I definitly can relate to these thoughts. I don't know that I'd say maintenance is just as hard as losing, it comes with a different set of challenges, but both are similar. I think we go up and down in motivation and will power wheter losing or maintaining, and need to find the balance and forgivness when we overdo it in either place.

That said, I also think that it's ok to indulge on occasion in a treat, be it food or a fun activity, all work and no play...makes for a boring existence.

Something that may help if the occasional indulgence becomes routine is rethinking some of the ways we do things. I've been reading Brian Wansink's book about Mindless eating (there is a web site w/ a good overview if you just want the main points w/o the detail), but it's making me think about food and cues differently. Just having food visible makes you more likely to eat it, so put out healthy food where you see it all the time (a nice bowl of fruit on the table intsead of a candy dish), and using smaller plates for your meals will also make you eat less, and not feel deprived. It's strange how mindless we are about these things, but I think a lot of the reason this nation has such an obesity problem now is that we have changed the way we view food, and it is about convenience and ease of preparation rather than good healthy food to nourish our bodies. We have the choice to pick the healthy way and that's why we all ended up here.




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I struggle with those feelings all the time. I watch my portions, but it is hard for me to do that with some foods. Those are the foods I try to avoid. Ice cream and cookies are the worst!

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10/19/07 9:56 A

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I just never goes away...those niggling thoughts. I try to focus on getting my fruits and veggies and water in, then if I want a litte treat, I'm less inclined to overdo it. It's about finding the right balance. emoticon

 
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Yes, I work at maintaining just as hard as I did losing weight. I find I make a lot better decisions than I did, but sometimes the urge (be it work stress or just plain cravings) to eat unhealthy kicks in hard. I've been working on learning to indulge once and then stop... just because I'm maintaining doesn't mean I can have it all!

... it just means I can have more but as occasionally as when I was losing weight.

I still track daily and I knew when I started that I might be the person who will always track daily. But I also keep track of my bank account balance daily, too, and for me it's kind of the same thing. I know I have X calories or X dollars and I want to figure out how to get the most for my calories/dollars... and when I overspend, I like to figure out how to fix it. And a new day and a new paycheck reset my balance and I start over each time.

Good luck!!

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10/19/07 8:35 A

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I continued to track my food every day for 4 months of maintenance. I intended to do it longer, but a vacation got me off the tracking track... instead I started to experiment with not tracking anymore... so far, so good! :D

I've kind of had the opposite problem... my new good habits sort of lead me to not eat ENOUGH. It doesn't help that money is pretty tight, so we only buy essentials when we food shop... not a lot extra to "indulge" on, even if I NEED to in order to hit my 1600 minimum. LOL!

I -do- indulge more in some of the "naughtier" foods, but it hasn't seemed to harm me so far. Being a creature of habit also helps keep me in line. :D

Like CFoster, it doesn't take me long to get back in line if I do get off track. :D

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10/19/07 8:11 A

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Yes, that is also a problem for me. However, I think it is getting easier to not think that way. Luckily, the scale has been forgiving most of the time. When it isn't, it doesn't take long to get it back where I want it. Good luck!

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I agree that the consensus is that it's just as hard to maintain as to lose.

I've only been maintaining for a little over a month, and I also had those thoughts. But, I notice more and more that another thought will immediately follow : "You may want that, and you can have that, but you don't need it and it's not the best choice". How many times have I reached for something sweet and then thought about how I haven't had my 5 fruit/veggie servings so I'd choose an apple instead. I think we really have been on this path long enough that our thoughts and habits change. I hope you find that too.

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Now that I've reached goal, I've noticed that I tend to think "OK, I can have one more of this, a little bit more of that, etc." And that's true, to an extent. But I also have the feeling that acting on too many of these little thoughts could cause me to gain back what I've lost. I'm going to continue to track as before, eat in the middle (not at the top!) of my new calorie range (1420-1860) and see how that works. And banish those nigglers!
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It seems like the consensus here is that you have to work just as hard at maintenance as at losing. True?

Edited by: ZELLAZM at: 10/19/2007 (07:05)
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