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Kim-Possible, I feel ya! Sounds like we're two peas in a pod. All the way down to the sodium gain.
Totally agree with everyone who is saying you have to know and respect your own individual limitations. There are times I feel strong enough to have crap I enjoy in the house, but most of the time it just sets me off in the wrong direction. I have to be honest with myself about how strong I am feeling at the moment: Easier said than done!
It is a personal decision. I've got teenage boys so there are sweets, chips, etc. around the house all the time. I bake for them also. I've learned discipline with myself. Many times I find myself thinking just one day of grabbing a bunch of cookies isn't going to hurt. Yet when I reach for those cookies, I take just one. It's so fresh in my head that I do not want to go back where I was. I like to think that after all these years, I've finally developed this healthy lifestyle. Time will tell. All I know is I've come a long way and have learned alot.
It's definitely something each individual has to decide on.
Someone who has / had trouble with major binges or emotional eating and particular comfort foods probably needs that protection of not having the trigger foods at hand. Someone who does not and simply ate too much overall may be able to be surrounded by food and not anxious to eat it.
I've definitely been learning there are certain things that I am more likely to eat mindlessly than others. One example is dark-chocolate covered almonds. The only way I can have them around is if I pre-portion them out so when I grab them as a snack, I'm only having the number that fits my food budget. For most foods, however, there is no binge, no craving comfort or emotional numbing. Portions are simply portions.
(Hehe, except maybe Chips Ahoy. Was laughing with my daughter last night that they are one thing I still won't buy as a package. Years of a habit of eating a large handful of cookies with a glass of milk leave us feeling unsatisfied with three cookies. The glass of milk just demands more cookies. I tried explaining to her how much half a cup of milk is and that would work better, but it's just mentally ingrained that we'd have this large glass (12-16 oz) of milk ... and enough cookies to finish it off.)
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I agree that it is a personal matter. Kowing youreself and youre habbits. I can not have any triger foods in the house at all not even raw nut butter. If and when i indulge it has to be out of the house or just bringing home the exact amount i plan on consuming in one sitting. I have tried all things especialy if something is on sale and it is an exeptionaly good price but it is a food that i can easily binge on it is best i leave it at the store. There have been too many times where i would buy the sale item and try to tell myself i can have just one and in each and every instance i would end up binging on it.
I have to have all kinds of food in the house that I don't feel fit into my plan. My husband has been ill and he is very thin and has no appetite so he gets whatever the heck he wants. He is getting well now but needs to put weight back on.
I do have to have more self control lately!
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Living a lifetime of yo-yoing (at least 40+ years), there was no way not to have all kinds of food in my house (husband, kids, the neighborhood) or everyone would have had to join me on the latest diet. So when I started once again in May to lose weight, I knew everything would still be around - and what I didn't bring in, others would. Having the grandkids for much of the summer, I still had to cook, plan for them. The difference this time is I slowly find myself planning more for myself instead of mainly for everyone else and that is what has helped the most. As long as "my" foods are in the house, not such a problem with things I am trying to stay away from.
The healthier I am and the better controls I have had for longer periods of time, the easier it is to moderate those temptations. BUT, once I have had a major slip, I have to detox and get the sugars and fats out of my diet for a time in order to regain control. That usually requires keeping them out of the house until I am strong enough to resist and stick to the truly healthy alternatives.
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It can be dangerous to think in absolutes. Every person is different, and if it is working for you, why stress over it?
Articles always present conflicting information, anyway. One article will say not to have it in the house to be successful and another will say that setting any food as off limits sets you up for a binge. Both may have data to support their claims.
I have reached a point where I know what my trigger foods are and know that I won't really enjoy them anyway, so I just avoid them. DH and the kids still order pizza, but I make myself something that tastes just as good to me but won't leave me with a 5lb sodium gain in one night (no exaggeration)
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I keep my real red flag foods like chips and cookies out of the house and just bring small quantities in (enough for one serving) when I want a treat. I typically only keep the kind of snack food around that I'm not likely to go overboard with. Even if I portion out my trigger foods, I often end up going back for seconds, thirds or more. Can be dangerous when I'm "on the hunt."
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I think it depends on the person. I there is any chance that certain foods are addictive to you I would no more keep them in the house than I would recommend for an alcoholic to have alcohol in the house or for a smoker to have cigarettes in the house. For me those foods are wheat and starches.
Then there are all the foods that may not be addictive for us but don't have any benefits, either. Those I would have in the house only in very small quantities. One example for me is white rice, which I don't usually eat but which is a good food for me after a stomach flu.
Concerning foods like chocolate, I'd rather have a very small quantity of chocolate that I really like, which for me is milk chocolate, than a larger amount of chocolate that I like less, like very dark chocolate.
Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 9/2/2012 (14:42)
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I let there be snacks in the house for my daughter that I am not tempted by. On occasion something I am tempted by will make it through the door- Either because I am feeling strong, or because we are having company.
I am not going to pretend that I never slip up, because I do. Binging is something I struggle with to this day, although not as often. It will probably be something I am working on until the day I die. Would love to reach perfection on that, but the fact is that I'll always be a work in progress.
One should not have any foods on their ban list IMO, if they can limit their serving to a reasonable serving when they have the calories and nutrient room. So no, I think you are right having such things in your house. I have chips, usually no name tortilla as they are the equivalent of baked chips fat wise and sometimes kettle cooked chips if I can get them cheap. I have chocolate in the house at ALL times. Much easier to pass up that decadent dessert in a restaurant, if I know I can have some ice cream or a piece of chocolate at home and much more likely to have room in my calorie budget also. I keep all kinds of not quite so good foods around also for my hubby who is a bit underweight. I just have to be careful what I eat and limit it to small portion sizes. It can be done. What amazes me, is I even manage to leave the chex mix alone! That stuff is a problem for me, but then so is ice cream. If I don't have ice cream about every three days, I begin to get serious cravings.
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so I read a article that said the people who were successful at mantiang a healthy and fit body did not allow any red flag snacks in their home. they don't have chips, cookies, snack cakes, candy, full fat ice cream ect ect. which made me wonder am I walking a dangerous line? I have chips.. they are blue corn, flax-seed, organic, low sodium chips but they're chips an a serving is still 140 calories ( though I do get 12 per severing not 8 like Doritos lol.) I know they're high calories & low nutrition and not really the best snack but Iove chips and salsa and I know I can have just under one serving with lunch and feel like I have gotten my favorite snack and am not denying myself anything.
I also have chocolate.. a dark chocolate bar that nibble off of pretty much daily. I'll have a couple of squares a day, its the endangered species dark chocolate bar. I like that the squares are smaller than most.
I have cheddar bunnies for the kiddo that I almost never get into ( not my kind of snack ) and animal crackers that I often get into.
Dont get me wrong they are by far not my only snacks and most of my snacks are healthy. I almost always have hummus which I LOVE around and carrots, peanut-butter, almonds, seeds, fruit and so on but I do have some not so healthy choices around too. I try to make them the healthiest option in their verity LOL but I don't kid myself a chip is still a chip. and I do have things I simply don't allow in the house because I know I can not have single portion of them, like Oreo's or any cookie really. animal crackers are as close to cookie as I get. you wont find milk chocolate here ether, for some reason even though I find it to sweet these days once I have a little but I cant stop. Dark chocolate I can totally have in moderation but milk chocolate, no go!...its weird. anyway
what do you think, is the healthier version of a red flag snack so bad to keep around? what kind of snacks are in your home?
Edited by: MRSRACHELS at: 9/2/2012 (14:01)
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