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emoticon Good attitude!

I started SP at 138 lbs in October 2010. My goal weight was supposed to be 125, which I reached in January 2011. I have stayed at 125 (give or take a few pounds) ever since.


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Maintenance like a mountain climb -- well said, Houndlover!

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"On a lighter note, I have to say, you don't know what micromanaging is until you've spent 24 years in the Pentagon with egotistical, testosterone laden maniacs!"

I've heard the same thing from a friend of mine. Now my next question would be how many of them are seriously overweight. emoticon

Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 11/29/2011 (20:33)
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Like Nell, I weigh myself every day. I enjoy doing it now. At first, y'all saw that I could get my panties in a bunch over worrying over it!
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It's been 6 months now and I'm doing just fine. I realize a fluctuation of 1-2 lbs usually means too much salt or, GASP, processed food absorption. But I've be able to resolve it based on the simple task of balancing my week's intake and continuing with my training. When I think I was at a high of 258, and I'm doing a Half Marathon in February at 170, I've embraced the lifestyle without being obsessive and stress.I celebrate it. I'm glad I'm still alive! I use every challenge and resource and I'm quite surprised at how I look at life now.
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On a lighter note, I have to say, you don't know what micromanaging is until you've spent 24 years in the Pentagon with egotistical, testosterone laden maniacs!
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The bottom line is what Anja said. "If what you are doing works for you, then keep it up! "

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11/29/11 1:22 P

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If what you are doing works for you, then keep it up!

We all have to find our own ways to deal with holding onto our happy new lives.

I happen to find numbers comforting, so where for someone else my methods might be "obsessive"* and "crazy-making"*, for me they represent security because I know it works.

Hang in there, hope you've found something that makes and keeps you happy, and keep us posted!

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*Those are the exact words someone here on SP has used to describe what I do.

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11/29/11 11:27 A

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Great analogy.

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I want to compare the fear of gaining it back to the fear of falling off a cliff. I've been there with weight loss. It's logical to just want to get a little further away from the cliff because we know that way there is no way we can fall off. This makes perfect sense. If we can even put 10 feet (pounds), or, let's say 30 feet (pounds) between us and the cliff then we could literally walk with our eyes closed for a little while (to what we eat and how we exercise) and not have to worry about falling off the cliff. Except this is not the best analogy. I want to explore a different one:
Think of a mountain, not Mount Everest that has very steep sides all around, but a mountain that has a very high peak but gradually ascents on all sides, in other words it takes a long, long time to get all the way up and the air is getting progressively thinner. But you know that the views along the way will be spectacular.
The walk up the mountain is your new, health conscious life of good eating, good exercise, good relationship, intelligent stress management etc.
There are several paths up the mountain, some are a little steeper, some have lots of switchbacks. All have many beautiful places on the way up where you can stop and take in the view. The terrain changes as well. Some of it is soft, grassy pastures that you can walk barefoot, some of it is sharp rocks, some of it is dirt. Part of it is covered by trees and cool, some of it is exposed to the sun with all it's heat. There are some dangers along the way: a wild water to cross, some cougars or black bears on the way. You don't always know where they are or what they will do, but you prepare yourself by going up the mountain in a group. You are not alone, you have good equipment that you have learned how to use and you are still learning every day. You find that as time passes you need less and less equipment to keep moving up the mountain. Your legs are getting stronger and you are getting smarter. The wild animals that were scary at first now become your friends and you look forward to seeing them. You can wade through the wild water creeks easily after a while and you know when to go the longer trail and when to take the cut-off. Sometimes you get tired and have to take a break. That's ok, because even though you look forward to reaching the summit one day and seeing the view from the very top, it is also where your journey ends. It is the way of getting there that is the most important, not the arriving at the destination. There are so many beautiful things to see and to experience: the wildflowers, the animals, the talks with people on the way, the time to meditate, you can take all the time you want, because this is your life, you can share it with anyone you like because this is your life, when you get to the top you want to enjoy the spectacular view up there knowing that you did not miss a lot along the way, because you only get to travel up the mountain once.

Hope this makes sense, it's my way of describing how my perspective changed. emoticon

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11/29/11 11:08 A

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I agree this has been a great discussion. It's the missing link if you will in the whole process of weight management. The "highs" we get from weekly losses and gains in strength, flexibility and endurance keep us going. Now, in maintenance it's a different story. I like the idea of both avoiding the pain we all experienced when our weight was out of control and approaching with joy the pleasure we feel in our clothes, our fitness and our self-control.


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This thread is a fascinating discussion. I hope to finally get to the point this year that I say that maintenance is truly my goal and that I am happy where I am. Then perhaps I can back off the micromanaging of my weight.

I still hope to lose a pound or two to get back to where I was in early 2011. And then I hope to lose 2 more pounds to just see if I like it better. I've kind of told myself I'll maintain through December and lose one in January and one in February. And if I don't do it, I'll accept wherever I am at the end of February and then truly embrace maintenance.

I have a hard time accepting that I'm not always improving. I still will set goals to improve my times and distance running and maybe increasing weights in strength training, because for now I think I can continue to improve in those areas.

I don't want my maintenance to be constant slips and getting it back. I want it to be healthy eating every day. If I keep slipping, I may never get to the normal, non-micromanaging, phase. So, overall, I am delighted to be 80+ pounds below my all time high. I am proud I ran a 5K in 28:28 this year and won 3 running medals. But I so wish I could give up the struggle and just live.

2012 is a new year. I plan to run a half marathon in 2012. In 2011 my Weight Watcher weigh ins have been from 123.4 to 131.0. In 2012 I'd like to see it be in the 124-128 range the entire year. These are good goals, but not ones that will help me give up the micromanaging. Maybe in 2013!

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It's amazing how easy it is to forget pain; we just put it out of our minds. But I remind myself every day of the pain of being overweight, of having to lose it all again, and wanting to avoid that pain makes it easier for me to say no to the Reeses. I know that some people consider that to be "negative thinking", but it sure makes it easier for me. Someone told me when I went to my first meeting, drowning in desperation and anguish, that I didn't ever have to feel that way again. It's part of the choice I make when I don't eat dessert or choose to stay away from the snack bar at the movies. I don't ever have to feel that despair again.

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11/29/11 7:54 A

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Maybe we need to find a new word that is something between micromanaging and being vigilant...micro vigil??? LOL

I like Nell's approach to taking care of 1-2 pounds before they get out of control. I also weigh every day and don't agonize about the number. I just look at it as my daily task of taking care of business and make adjustments to get it under control. It's much easier to take care of a small amount than the huge amount I had to deal with. I'm enjoying my new size, and I don't ever want to start that journey over again.

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Thank you! You have just helped me with a problem I have. i think I am fat. i now weigh 122 but want to weigh 118. Doctor doesn't want me below 125. I am 5 ft. 5 in. He is afraid I will become anorexic and bulimic. I weigh everyday and totally obsessed with how much I eat and weigh. exercise 2 hrs a day.

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I think vigilance and micromanaging have different mind sets. To me micromanaging is almost being obsessed with every morsel of food, every moment of exercise. Vigilance is thinking before I act.


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I didn't micromanage my weight (weighing and measuring for portion control) I didn't journal my food and I gained some of my weightloss back. Unfortunately it is necessary to be vigilent and micromanage your weight.

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I have been at goal for many years and still weigh every day, but don't agonize over it. If I'm up a pound or two I just cut back a tiny bit until it comes down, usually in a couple of days. I mean like one piece of toast at breakfast instead of two, or one fruit instead of two. Cutting back a little for a couple of days is no big deal. I want to know about 1 or 2 pounds before they become 4 or 5. I don't care if it's water or not, I just cut it back a little. As the days, months and years pass, a couple of pounds up and down all even out into a straight line.

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Thanks, will have to take another look at that. emoticon

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From the National Weight Loss Registry. emoticon

*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
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OOLALA,
I'm curious, where did you find that statistic? I've always been wondering about this.
It would be interesting what else those 25% have in common.
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Though it's true that more than the simple majority of maintainers do track and weigh, about 25% do not. However, I'd bet there is something they do keep tabs on such as general habits.

I'm experimenting this year with weighing only about 4x a year, after 90-day regimes. I do aim to keep track of my general eating habits and two different exercise habits. I used to weigh daily and average the results once a week. That helped unhook me from the daily number.

If you're being honest with yourself about whether you're letting bad habits slip in or not, weighing may not be essential. It's when we start lying to ourselves that we need another metric. Your jeans could be all you need. emoticon

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I think you have spoken for many of us. I do care what the scale says and am concerned about a trend.... however, that said. I know how my clothes fit and how I feel. That's important too. I do use the nutrition tracker every day and while it may seem micromanaging, I only get on the scale about 2-3 times a month.

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Tanya, just looked at your spark page. You look great!
Upper body strength is the next thing I'll work on once the cardio is where I want it. emoticon

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Maintaining will mean different things for different people. Just like we sometimes need to step away from the scale while losing, I think it makes sense to think about whether maintaining a number on the scale is YOUR goal for maintenance. I know that, while I am tracking my weight, my goal is to maintain a loose size 4P. I've been trending towards a 2P and even some of my 2Ps are loose so I've been thinking about what maintenance means to me and I may just one day reach the point you've reached where how I look and how my clothes fit are more important than the number on the scale.

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Hey, you need to do whatever works best for YOU.

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Yes, I'm yelling that out loud. emoticon

I don't mean I won't record my weight anymore from time to time. Actually weighing myself this morning was the reason to make this decision. I found another 3 lbs weight gain. I'm up to 139 lbs. I know that a lot of it may be water weight, since I had a lot of a salty split soup last night.
But some of it probably isn't, given that I've had a slow upwards trend for the last 2 months. It may be in part the lack of daylight and my body trying to preserve energy for the winter, LOL, because this is exactly what happened last year.
In any case, I took my own advice and looked in the mirror, carefully, from all sides, and I liked what I saw: less belly fat than 3 months ago, less butt fat than 3 months ago, less fat on my inner thighs than three months ago. I still fit in my size 6 jeans just fine, the same ones that fit perfectly when I weighed 132 lbs. in the summer.
The interesting thing is that I haven't done any strength training at all since I'm on this running program that keeps me in my aerobic zone only, just very slow running. I could have gained some muscle in my glutes and legs.
In any case, I will observe to see if my weight goes up any more, but unless I see changes in the mirror or in pictures I will not be concerned about it at all. I wish I could post before/after pictures but I never took any before pictures.
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